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How can my girlfriend help me obtain a TM30 if I'm staying at her place in Thailand?

Mar 23, 2026
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Marx *******
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Staying at my girlfriend place.....how does one get a TM30?
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To obtain a TM30 while staying at your girlfriend's place in Thailand, it is essential for the property owner (the landlord) to register your residence with the immigration authorities within 24 hours of your arrival. If your girlfriend rents the place, she must request the landlord to file the TM30 on your behalf. Alternatively, if she owns the property and has the necessary documentation (like the landlord ID and housebook), she can file it online herself. It’s crucial to keep in mind that the landlord is not legally obliged to register you unless he chooses to do so, since you are not listed as a tenant. In case of refusal or if you face difficulties, staying at a hotel where you can easily obtain a TM30 might be a simpler solution.
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Armando **********
No clue. I stay with my girlfriend when I'm in Thailand and I've never been asked for a tm30. I go to immigration office when I get there to let them know where I'm staying and when getting a 30 day extension they never ask for one.
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Barry ********
On the immigration web site there is a power of attorney form so your GF as the lease can then report you via the online web for TM30. The power of attorney form is the owner granting your GF the right to do the TM30 reporting.
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Pinkpo******
She needs to go to her district office and add your name to her Yellow Book. Being someone's GUEST does not count for a Certificate of Residence unless you're officially registered as an occupant of your GF's home.
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Anthony **********
She can register online with immigration . She can then log into the system and do the TM30 online.
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Nuttaporn **********
Immigration website (TM.30)

✅Prepare house book scan file

✅ID card of landlord scan file
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Andreas *********
the landlord does not have to file the TM30. That boyfriend guy Marx Grout is not a tenant of him! Only the Thai woman is his tenant, but for a Thai he does not need to file a TM30. The landlord has ZERO obligations in this case, strictly spoken! He CAN file a TM30 as a favour to both of them, but strictly spoken he does not have to!
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Marx *******
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everything filled on my tm30 (just one page??) except this date of arrival and TM6, is that normal or the landlord made a mistake...? thanks
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John **********
@Marx ******
ignore TM6 field but enter the arrival date
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Graham ******
@John *********
This is the actual online TM30 PDF not the application, he has his TM30 so no need to worry
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Marx *******
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I think the landlord forgot to enter that, should i ask another one or no?
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Andreas *********
Marx Grout the TM6 used to be the paper "arrival & departure card". It got replaced with the TDAC (digital arrival card). The landlord can keep the TM6 field blank
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Roz *************
By the laws much do, but if don’t no just paid for fee , if stay longer anyway yr girlfriend much help you this( depends the place that it belong to her or rent) good luck @Marx Grout
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Han ********
With so much misinformation, what is the point of this group? Everyone always thinks their personal situation matches everyone else's. "Oh a dude at my local immigration office told me not to worry about it so therefore everyone else in Thailand can ignore it." 😉 Or "property owners aren't under any obligation to file a TM30". Tell that to the people who get fined for this; reports in the news pretty much every week.

(Now, if the owner is being stupid about it then a wife/girlfriend who is a tenant can also just get registered and file it online. None of this is difficult. Leave it to foreign expat 'experts' to create a mountain out of a mole hill.)

Here are some links to news reports where Thai landlords are arrested/fined for failing to file a TM30. These links are useful when explaining things to a clueless landlord.

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Ronald ******
Just been and done it with gf had to take photo copy of blue book and my passport Simple’s
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Chris *********************
Don't need one unless you want to extend your stay
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Hari ****
Totally wrong 24 hours otherwise u have to pay a fine ! It’s the law ! What u post here ?
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Chris *********************
Hari BO????
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Han ********
Chris Topher Ian Fowler - Or file a 90 day report, in some places in Thailand.
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Chris *********************
Han Thomas correct
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Pat *******
What's with all these anonymous ie; "purpleaubergine" and their convuluted answers. If they are so confident in their given answers to the post. Why the need for anonymity under the nickname bs, "crookedkangeroo" or "lustfullizard". It's pathetic.
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Han ********
Pat Trick - Although in fairness, some non-anonymous people spout nonsense just the same. 😉 On full display in this group all day every day.
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@Nan **********
can sort it for you if you are in the Pattaya area
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Han ********
Jim Faulks - Because everyone lives in Pattaya. 😉
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David **********
Online. Once submitted, take screenshot

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Fred ********************
I called my broker, she called the house owner and in 1 minute I had the tm30 in my mailbox....soooooo easy
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Krystian ******
What for?
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Tai ******
Good luck. as it’s already been said the real owner doesn’t have to give you one. This happened to me the fix is just go to a cheap hotel one night before you go to immigration the next day checkout and go to immigration just make sure the hotel knows ahead of time to give you the tm 30.
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Anthony **********
Looking to get a retirement visa , should I go to a company to do this . I arrive in pattaya in may , what do I need to bring with me Thanks
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Graham ******
@Anthony *********
Get your Non-O visa before you travel, much easier 😉
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Rick ****
I think the real question that no one is asking is… Why do you NEED a TM30?
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Han ********
Rick Ny - Some immigration offices ask for it when doing other stuff, like 90 day reporting or an extension of stay. Like in Chiang Mai.
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Graham ******
Han Thomas Exactly, so if the OP does not require any of these there is no need to file a TM30
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Graham ******
Rick Ny at last
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James ***************
If he is not going to do an extension etc or visit immigration he doesn’t have to do anything.
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Thitiphong **************
If you’re staying at your girlfriend’s place, the TM30 must be done by the property owner or the person listed in the house registration, not by you.

Here’s how it works:

-If the condo/house is in your girlfriend’s name → she can submit the TM30 herself

-If it’s a rented place → the landlord or building juristic office usually handles it

How to submit TM30:

-Online via Immigration’s TM30 system

-In person at the local immigration office

-Some condos/juristic offices do this routinely for foreigners

You only need to ask your girlfriend or landlord to file TM30 after you arrive.

Once it’s done, you can request a TM30 receipt/confirmation if you need it for visa extension.

It’s a normal requirement and very common—nothing to worry about
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Donnell **********
You got 24hrs for the landlord to send it… you’re better off getting a hotel room ASAP.. they’ll do it for you
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Han ********
Donnell Williams - In practice they don't much care about the date, and the property owner/manager getting caught within a couple day period is seriously unlikely. So whenever they get around to it they specify the arrival date as yesterday. That's not fully proper I'll admit, but I don't think this is a crucial mad rush to get done within 24 hours, "or else".
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Roz *************
Owner of the place (house) can do via online in 24 hrs
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Andreas *********
@Roz ************
the landlord does not have to file the TM30. That boyfriend guy is not a tenant of him! Only the Thai woman is his tenant, but for a Thai he does not need to file a TM30. The landlord has ZERO obligations in this case, strictly spoken!
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Andreas *********
@Roz ************
he CAN but he does not HAVE TO
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Han ********
Andreas Mueller - yes he HAS TO. He's the one getting fined.
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Andreas *********
Han Thomas the landlord does not have to file the TM30. That boyfriend guy is not a tenant of him! Only the Thai woman is his tenant, but for a Thai he does not need to file a TM30. The landlord has ZERO obligations in this case, strictly spoken!
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Andreas *********
Han Thomas no, the landlord does not have to file the TM30. That guy is not a tenant of him! The landlord has ZERO obligations in this case.
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Enthusiastic*************
Owner of the condo can do it for you
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Kim *********
EnthusiasticCrocodile5147 ha ha you think it's a condo? 😂
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Andreas *********
EnthusiasticCrocodile5147 he CAN, but he does not HAVE TO
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Shane ***********
Andreas Mueller we get your point, you do not have to comment on every post ya moron
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Enthusiastic*************
Andreas Mueller of course, if he is a moron , then need to book som cheap hotell and ask from them..
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Andy *******
My immigration Dansingkorn PKK) told my wife not to bother they were not interested
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Larb****
I stay at my girlfriend's house but never interact with immigration and she has never completed a TM30.
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Steve ********
LarbPhed we live in a small village, a few years back cops came knocking wanting to know why I wasn't registered, cost 5k to avoid trouble (5 police, 5k, good maths). Went to local immigration next day and now do online each visit.
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Graham ******
Steve Carter The fine for late filing of a TM30 is 800 or 1600B depending on the Immigration Office, you were scammed
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Larb****
Steve Carter she doesn't listen 😆 perhaps because she was married to a copper for 12 years before me she would just invite the friendly policeman friend in for a cuppa 😅 TIT
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Rob *********
LarbPhed No problem at all until you want an extension and need to provide the TM30. Pretty much the only time it's needed.
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Steve *******
Rob Grimsey Does it have to be for a 12-month rental contract for a 12-month retirement visa extension?
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Krystian ******
Rob Grimsey then u go agents pay 1000 and u can have it
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Us *****
Jesus, I have been here for 3 years and I must be doing something wrong. How come the girls always want to stay at my fancy 2 bedroom condo and never invite me to stay at theirs? I always have to ask them to leave so I can bring other girls home. What am I doing wrong?
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Paul *************
Us Nek I presume that's tongue in cheek. Do you really wanna stay at Thai's place🤔? tiny little box room piled high with mama noodles😉
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Us *****
Paul Carl Ikens 555, I am just making fun of the broke expats that are stupid enough to stay at the girl's place. Never bring your own food to a buffet.
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Leonard ***********************
Us Nek you're one of those bars stool heroes, Confucius says fine girl with Buffalo and Honda Wave in Isaan
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Antonino *******
Your gf has to register you within 24 hours after your arrival, otherwise she will pay a fine, and then you have to confirm your address every 90 days.
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Andreas *********
Antonino Amato complete and utter nonsense, the girlfriend has rented the apartment, she cannot do a TM30 by herself. And the 90-days report has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with a Tm30
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Jinder *******
Does the owner need to register tM30 every time you return back to Thailand to the same residence you have rented or can you do it yourself when you travel out of thailand and return.
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Roz *************
Jinder Aujla agree with you👍
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Kenny *****
If she owns the condo/house/townhouse she can register for you online. If she don’t own the property then the landlord needs to register you for tm30.

Also, you won’t need a tm30 unless you’re staying longer than 60 days. Depends on which passport you hold. Most passport will get a 60 days visa exemption on entry.
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Andreas *********
Please keep in mind:

The landlord of your girlfriend has ZERO obligations to register you in the place your girlfriend rented from him.

He can theoretically refuse registering you!

You are asking the landlord to do you a favour. He could ask you to pay for this kind of service.

Keep in mind, the owner does not rent out the place to you, and your girlfriend cannot register you per TM30 because she does not have the place's blue housebook.

Did your GF ask the owner if it is okay she takes you in? She didn’t ask for his permission?

Then if you really need a TM30 to get some business done on Immigration, book a night or two in a hotel and ask them for the TM30 printout

The landlord does not rent out the place to the girl’s boyfriend. He has no obligation to register the guy per TM30.

He could actually tell the girlfriend that he does not allow the guy in the premises. He has absolutely no rights, the landlord is following the law, he doesn't have to accept the presence of the boyfriend.

So beware, keep humble and polite and ask the landlord to please register a TM30 (which he does not need to do for the girlfriend so I assume he has never registered the premises in the TM30 online system). You are actually asking for a favour from him, he but does not have any obligations!
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Han ********
Andreas Mueller - You keep saying this but it's nonsense. If you own a property, and a non-Thai citizsen stays there even for one day then the property owner/manager needs to file a TM30. It takes a minute to do online.

Yes it's probably more convenient for the guy's girlfriend to register and do it online, but you can't be saying that 'a landlord has ZERO obligations'. That's clearly false; look it up.

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These are landlords. They got arrested/fined. (Please tone down the confidence with which you spread misinformation. 😉 )
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Darlene *********
Andreas Mueller how many more times are you going to copy and paste that???
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Andreas *********
Darlene D Smit one more time because all these stupid comments about an alleged "obligation of the landlord to file a TMN30" are really annoying. . . . . . . I was mainly replying to the many many posters who incorrectly claim that the house owner MUST register the boyfriend.

No, the house owner has ZERO obligations.

He would do them a favour, however he does NOT HAVE TO register the boyfriend, simply because he did not rent out the premises to the boyfriend. It is a matter of principles.

The house owner can theoretically REFUSE to do a TM30, he does not have to allow the presence of the boyfriend inside the rented-out premises.

The house owner has ZERO obligations. He does NOT have to register the boyfriend per TM30 in his rented-out premises.

If he did so, that would just be a splendid FAVOUR. Just stop assuming that the girlfriend or boyfriend have any rights towards a TM30 registration.

So beware, keep humble and polite and ask the landlord to please register a TM30.

(which he does not need to do for the Thai girlfriend so I assume he might not even have registered the premises in the TM30 online system).
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Darlene *********
Andreas Mueller Guess these comments can't be that stupid as you are responding to each and every one - therefore validating people asking these questions .
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It doesn't matter if it's not overstage. However, overstay is required. I stayed at my girlfriend's house for 20 days, but I didn't report it separately, and there were no problems when I left the country.
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Authentic*********
How about if I have my own place and occasionally stay at my girl friends place? I don't want to like twice, and I don't want to bother the land owner when I don't even rent there, my g does.
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Steve ********
AuthenticAlpaca833 If you visit several places in Thailand no need to do other TM30, just need for stay at your own place. Anytime you leave the country you need a new TM30 on return.
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Peter *********
Steve Carter incorrect, if you have a permanent address, no need to re-file.
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Graham ******
Peter Goundry that will depend entirely on which Immigration Office you use but the guideline is re-entry requires a new TM30
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Steve ********
Peter Goundry well you know better than the local immigration boss (who I sometimes play golf with). If you do not have Thai citizenship the TM30 is compulsory each time you come in. You once needed to report every time you left your house for more than a day and went to another province, thankfully they ditched that. Anyway, up to you and good luck.
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Duncan *******
If she owns the place, she can register and do it online. Takes no more than five minutes to set up.
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Stephen ******
@Duncan ******
can it be done in English?
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Steve ********
Stephen Hind I do it online, immigration set up house on website, we get a login etc and I do it each time I arrive. Yes it has an english option.
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Michael *******
Homeowner puts you on house registration
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Han ********
Michael Clark - They can but that's really not what's required here. A TM30 must be filed, that's it.
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Andreas *********
Michael Clark the house owner has ZERO obligations.

He would do them a favour, however he does NOT HAVE TO register the boyfriend, simply because he did not rent out the premises to the boyfriend.
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Michael *******
Andreas Mueller I live with the property owner of the house I built in Thailand. She added me to the house registration to facilitate my retirement Visa and pink card. Simply relating an experience…..
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LivelyG********
Best to avoid confusion, visit local immigration office with your GF and enquire, with her rent doc and her ID, .... your GF might need to sign a form, and that's it, you can get a paper and you can applied for extension...usually for tourist visa extension, Immigration not too strict....but depends upon office to office....
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Sukanya ***********
The landlord should do that.
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Andreas *********
Sukanya Maksamlee well he is free to do it or not. The house owner has ZERO obligations.

He would do them a favour, however he does NOT HAVE TO register the boyfriend, simply because he did not rent out the premises to the boyfriend. It is a matter of principles
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Sukanya ***********
Andreas Mueller, by law the owner of every place who let the foreigners stay, needs to report to the immigration within 24 hours, they can get a fine.
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Khun **********
You go to immigration with the blue book and the owner and you go to notify your residence they will staple it into your passport
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Fred ********************
Khun Philippe OMG ridiculous. !!! Just call the owner and in 10 seconds you have it online.
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Andreas *********
Khun Philippe only IF the owner complies. Because the owner has ZERO obligations to do that
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Khun **********
Andreas Mueller my wife is the owner so obviously speaking of my experience
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Andreas *********
Khun Philippe a completely different situation, my dear
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Khun **********
Andreas Mueller Well hè States he stays at his girlfriend so possible the house is family property
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Andreas *********
Khun Philippe the girlfriend is renting the place he says
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Brilliant**********
GF should do it. If she rents, ask owner for a copy of id and housebook. Owner will not do it, if thai(gf) s renting unless very friendly landlord.
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Marx *******
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BrilliantPoodle8018 She is renting the place. So who should do it? My gf or the landlord? confused here
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Marx Grout Keep in mind: the landlord has no obligation to register you in the place your girlfriend rented from him. He can refuse registering you! You are asking the landlord to do you a favour. He could ask you to pay for this kind of service. Keep in mind, the owner does not rent out the place to you, and your girlfriend cannot register you per TM30 because she does not have the place's blue housebook. Did your GF ask the owner if it is okay she takes you in? No? Then if you really need a TM30 to get some business done on Immigration, book a night or two in a hotel and ask them for the TM30 printout
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Tony ********
Easy solution, agreed. Book a few nights at hotel. No great cost, no hassle, no messing about? So many seem to seek the most complicated solution over the obvious easy solution.

Regards.?
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Marx Grout according to the law, it is the person who is housing you. Can be hotel, landlord, or your gf. Since you are not renting. Better to have your gf do it. If the landlord is cooperative, landlord is easier. Been there, done that. Stayed with my wife before and landlord was not cooperative. Wife did it. Now I am the renter. Landlord does it. Just remember that you are responsible for providing the tm30 copy to immigration and you will pay the fines, have the problems. (Even though the law states different)
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BrilliantPoodle8018 the landlord did never rent out the place to him. He has no obligation to register the guy per TM30. He could actually tell the girlfriend that he does not allow the guy in the premises. You have absolutely no rights, the landlord is following the law, he doesn't have to accept your presence
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Alexis ******
Andreas Mueller no the landlord can't ask money for this and yes the girlfriend can do it
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@Alexis *****
no the girlfriend CANNOT do it without information from the landlord, his blue housebook and his Thai ID card
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Stewpid *******
Ask your Thai gf to get a TM30 from the landlord. The landlord will have to input your information (since you are living with your Thai gf) to the system then the system will issue a TM30 with your information in it
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Bent *************
Marx Grout

Landlord. But why do you need a TM30?
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Bent Sennenwaldt

A TM30 is a mandatory Thai immigration notification, required by law (Section 38), that informs authorities of a foreigner’s current address within 24 hours of arrival. It is essential for tracking foreigners for national security, and it is required for visa extensions, re-entry permits, and 90-day reports.

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Why You Need a TM30:

Legal Compliance: The responsibility rests on landlords, hotel owners, or hosts to report a foreign guest's residence within 24 hours of arrival.

Visa Services: Immigration will refuse to process your 90-day report, extension of stay, or re-entry permit if a valid TM30 is not on file.

Overstay Penalty: Without a TM30, you may face difficulties or fines when trying to process visa applications.

Security & Tracking: It allows Thai immigration to track the whereabouts of foreign nationals for safety and security purposes.

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If you are staying in a hotel, they usually handle this. If you are in a rental apartment or staying with friends, you should confirm with your landlord that they have filed the TM30 (via Tilleke & Gibbins. Failure to report can result in fines, usually for the landlord, of 800 THB to 1,600 THB per person
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Tom Attermann Henriksen YOU ARE COMPLETELY OFF TRACK . . . . . No, the house owner has ZERO obligations.

He would do them a favour, however he does NOT HAVE TO register the boyfriend, simply because he did not rent out the premises to the boyfriend. It is a matter of principles.

The house owner can theoretically REFUSE to do a TM30, he does not have to allow the presence of the boyfriend inside the rented-out premises.
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Andreas Mueller of course the landlord has no say on boyfriend presence, unless written in contract that guests are not allowed which is highly unlikely. You can bring guests to rented home
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Marx *******
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tourist visa extension
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Marx Grout if you do extension at bangkok you dont need tm30
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Ron ******
Marx Grout Just book into a hotel for a night, they are required by law to register you as staying there. Ask them for a copy.
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Tony ********
Hmmnn? Few nights would be accepted more readily in immigration. When I did my extension, guy the side of me had a TM30 for just one night. They declined him. Mine was four nights, no hesitation, approved.
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John **********
The landlord/owner files one for you
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the house owner is NOT responsible, the guy has not officially been accepted inside the premises by the owner. The landlord does not have any obligations to follow. The girlfriend must ask the owner to do them a favour, but the owner can fully legally refuse it
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@Andreas ********
he asked how he could get one. Nobody other than the landlord or owner can file the TM30
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I was mainly replying to the many many posters who write that the house owner MUST register the boyfriend. No, the house owner has ZERO obligations. He would do them a favour, however he does NOT HAVE TO register the boyfriend, simply because he did not rent out the premises to the boyfriend. It is a matter of principles
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Andreas Mueller will you stop repeating yourself ?
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So i don't have to do anything by myself? simply have to ask her to ask the owner is it?
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Malcolm **********
Marx Grout The landlord has to do it but if they don't then it's you that gets the fine when you leave, or at least might get a fine.
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Graham ******
Malcolm Whitlock Nobody gets fined when leaving the country for not filing a TM30
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Andreas *********
Malcolm Whitlock the house owner is NOT responsible, the guy has not officially been accepted inside the premises by the owner. You are wrong. The landlord does not have any obligations to follow. The girlfriend must ask the owner to do them a favour, but the owner can fully legally refuse it
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Gerar ********
Theoretically you have to do nothing, the house/landowner is responsible to register you within 24 hours of arrival.

Don’t forget to ask for a printout so you have proof that the registration is done.
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Gerar Teuben the house owner is NOT responsible, the guy has not officially been accepted inside the premises by the owner. You are wrong. The landlord does not have any obligations to follow. The girlfriend must ask the owner to do them a favour, but the owner can fully legally refuse it
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Gerar ********
I’m not going into a discussion but it’s the landlord responsibility to register all occupants on his premises ( Section 38 of the Immigration Act B.E. 2522 (1979) ) , he can do that via the online portal or in person at the immigration office when he has a account setup with his id card and housebook or he supplies the signed id card and housebook together with a power of attorney and the guest can do it then himself at immigration.

The house owner can be fined 2000 Baht (10.000 baht for hotel) if the registration isn’t done in time. (Section 77 of the Immigration Act B.E. 2522 (1979))
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