How can I obtain a long-term (5 years) visa in Thailand after completing a cooking course?

Oct 14, 2024
2 months ago
Dave *******
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Hello, my partner and I have been together for around 14 months, having met through a friend. I’ve been to Thailand earlier in the year, she came back to the UK in July on a 6 month visitor visa, we are due to fly back to Thailand at the end of December. I know I can get 90 days, 60 days plus 30 by visiting a local immigration office, leave and return which will pretty much get me 6 months in Thailand. After that she plans to return to the UK with me.

So my question is this, I have thought about attending a course whilst in Thailand to learn how to cook Thai food, I understand I can apply for a DTV to assist my stay in the future, what I can’t get my head around is when I finish the course after a few months how can I get a visa that will last 5 years?????.
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The user seeks advice on how to transition from a temporary stay in Thailand, facilitated by a visitor visa and a cooking course, to a long-term visa lasting five years. Suggestions from the community include applying for a DTV visa after the course, utilizing multi-entry tourist visas for extended stays, and considering the implications of visa regulations as they evolve in Thailand.
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James *******
Where did you meet exactly?
Yiba *******
And don't forget, this is not a visa like a sticker thing. You are getting stamped for 6 months.

6 months visa for 10.000 baht plus a muay Thai gym, a cooking class, a dental clinic makes around 500 dollars to 1000 dollars at least, is pretty good as Thai economy is not looking good these days. I'm and world bank estimates that economic growth of Thailand will be around 3 to 4 percent next year which is not a good number for Thai economy.
Yiba *******
that's the question the people don't want to answer. Of course, the immigration will definitely ask for more papers each time you want to extend your stay for another 180 days. It should be like this and must be like this... people don't want to think about this and want to imagine the government being stupid and handing out 5year visas to everybody enrolling into a 800 dollar culinary course, muay Thai course or for a 1000 dollar dental appointment.....

Thai government will probably ask for nothing when you want to extend your visa (get out of Thailand and come back again but before that pay 10.000 baht for extension). This will probably continue until the tourist numbers come back to the desired levels. After tourism recovers (if it does), we will see what's gonna happen.

This is how I see things.
Luit *****************
@Yiba ******
when you extend that can be easily arranged at immigration office, but for just another entry at the border it will be much more difficult. Until now I did not hear from anybody who had to provide information again at entry, and I think already a lot of people entered one or more times.
Jason **********
Thailand also has a basic multi entry tourist visa you can apply for easily. You get 60 day stamp everytime you enter and can extend 30 days for 90, then need a border bounce or trip. If you get a 60 day stamp just before end date of the visa you can get almost 9 months
Dave *******
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@Jason *********
hi Jason, thanks, did think of this but we pretty much want to bounce between the UK and Thailand every 6 months, just thought it may become a problem over a number of years.
Jason **********
@Dave ******
DTV visa is your easiest and most cost effective option then. You could get thailand privilege, but its not worth the cost with the DTV now.
Graham *******
Crazy, isn't it, but currently we believe its true.
Sean *******
@Graham ******
Pint of bitter?
Graham *******
Jim ***********
@Graham ******
and 500k last you 5 years..too.good be true so far
Graham *******
@Jim **********
With visa's and income tax things are changing big in Thailand. I do not think they have thought things through properly.
Jim ***********
@Graham ******
definitely not thought through properly. Hopefully O visa holders don't get penalised.
Andi ***********
The DTV is for 5 years, so once you have it that is how long it lasts even if the course ends. It is unclear at the moment, but if you extend your 6mths at immigration you could well have to show you are still on a course. The other way is leave and reenter and get another 180 days with no questions likely asked on arrival,
Sean *******
I think they'll most likely check you have the 500k in the bank. As we all know Thailand is all about the money.
Deepak *******
@Andi **********
we don't know yet what the IOs will ask after 6 months when a second attempt will be made to enter Thailand. They may ask for the proof just like they do and ask for health insurance to OA visa holders before stamping them for one year.
John *******
@Deepak ******
I doubt that they will ask for paperwork at airport.
Luit *****************
@John ******
most certainly not all the different kind of proof needed for all the different options, but they might ask for the basic 500k, just as they now can ask for 20k cash if they want.
John *******
@Luit ****************
that is doubtful. The visa is valid for 5 years. You are not applying for anything new, like you are when you apply for an extension. I have entered 4 times now and no one has asked anything.
Andi ***********
@Deepak ******
I mentioned it is unclear, and they could ask for confirmation of activity. Highly doubt they will ask for insurance as it is not a DTV requirement unlike the OA visa.
Deepak *******
@Andi **********
I gave it as an example of how they ask for additional proof for certain visas.
John *******
@Deepak ******
- immigration officers at airport ask for proof of insurance?
Deepak *******
@John ******
Yes, for OA visa holders.
John *******
@Deepak ******
interesting. I would assume that you would need to submit it when applying, and since it is a 1 year visa, does immigration think it will have changed?
Luit *****************
@Deepak ******
I agree they might ask if you still comply with requirements, but as
@John ******
also says DTV is valid 5 years and you only get a new entry stamp, that is different for the situation with the non-oa you mention, because there you extend. But that does not mean they cannot ask for some requirements of course.
John *******
@Luit ****************
- Curious, any examples of immigration asking at entry if you still comply with any other visa type?
Luit *****************
@John ******
I do not expect them to ask anything at the border, only if they think something might be wrong, but at the moment I do not think there are requirements that are requirements for the full period, but that can be changed in the rules of course.

But I really do not see the immigration officers at the border check for employment contracts and dates of medical appointments or cooking classes...

They might change financial requirements, like the 500k at any time, but now that simply is only a requirement in the period before approval.
Deepak *******
@Luit ****************
They can ask anything. You don't have any say on this. You are a foreigner art the mercy of Thai IOs who have allowed you to stay in their country because your own country cannot give you a decent living.
Luit *****************
@Deepak ******
That is not how I feel...

My Thai girlfriend and I have a second home in Thailand, but we also spend much time in my home country Netherlands, where we also have a good life.

Only in winter, I like Thai climate much more. I hate cold and rainy weather.

And in case IO wants to check every time I get in, I still have the 500K THB, no problem, as long as this does not make waiting time too long.
Deepak *******
@Luit ****************
It does not matter what you feel, it's what the IOs feel.
Luit *****************
@Deepak ******
Most Thai IO are just friendly people in my experience, not the type you describe.
Deepak *******
@Luit ****************
OMG, such poor understanding. OA visa are not extended.
Luit *****************
@Deepak ******
Well I might have poor understanding, I am very sorry mr, know everything better, I base my info on the website of the official Thai embassy:

4. Recommendations for foreigners with Non-Immigrant Visa “O-A” (Long Stay) while staying in Thailand

4.1 Upon arrival, holder of this type of visa will be permitted to stay in Thailand for 1 year from the date of first entry.

4.2 At the end of the 90-day stay, the foreigner must report to the immigration officer in his or her residence area and report again every 90 days during his or her stay in Thailand. The foreigner may report to the police station if there is no immigration office in his or her residence area.

4.3 Foreigner may report to the competent authority by post and should provide the following:

A report form (Tor Mor 47)

A copy of passport pages showing the foreigner’s photo, personal details, and the latest arrival visa stamp

A copy of the previous receipt of acknowledgement

A self-addressed envelope with postage affixed.

Such documents must be sent to the Immigration Division 1, 120 Moo 3, Government Center B, Chaengwattana Soi 7, Laksi, Bangkok
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and must be submitted 7 days before the end of every 90-day period. A receipt of acknowledgement will be given and should be used for future correspondence.

4.4 Foreigner who wishes to extend his or her stay can contact the Office of the Immigration Bureau directly. A one-year extension of stay shall be granted at the discretion of the immigration officer.
Katy *******
Hats the mystery and joy of this visa. A short cooking course or Muay Thai gets you a five year visa.
Dave *******
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@Katy ******
love it, the mystery and 🤩