How can I get the TM30 online if my hotel is unsure how to do it?

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1. By law, all property owners (including hotels) must file a TM30 for the person who is staying at the hotel. Have the property owner watch this video (In Thai, subed in English):



and have them use one of the following three programs to submit the TM30 online:

Online [best option]:



Apple:



Android



2. A TM30 is required at most immigration offices to request an extension of stay, as proof that a person is staying within the province.

3. Unlicensed hotels, such as AirBnB, may not do a TM30 because they want to stay hidden from Thai immigration. An AirBnB is technically illegal for under a month's stay.

A submitted TM30 looks like one of the three documents below. SOME hotels submit the TM30 by e-mail directly, and a print-out of the e-mail with the supporting documents will also be accepted by immigration.

Thank you

this is something the hotel "has" to do and if you talked person who said they can't chances are they are not actually working for the hotel but selling you a room there or something because everyone does this not just hotels, but anyone who rents to foreigners... if they don't do it they get fined... and if they don't do it within a day of you staying there they also get fined.... also if they mistake or put wrong information on it they get fined... I just had to deal trying to get my visa extension and the person I was renting from put a wrong address the first time then filled it in incompletely the second time and filed it later than the day i arrived... I dont know where they have the information online but the person at counter 13 at the samut prakan immigration office has a paper with all the information about it (that is the counter to get your online tm30 certified) they don't always check it but sometimes they will and if its not right in any way the person who filed it will get a fine. Also don't let them put false/incomplete information or dates and think it will be okay if for some reason an immigration officer comes to your place(highly unlikely but still possible usually related to overstay) and you are not at the address there then you will be in trouble though i dont know what the penalty is here (I had a similar issue in bali when the immigration came to my old apartment looking for me because they thought i had overstayed my visa)

It's my understanding that a hotel has to report that you are staying there daily. While that might not be a TM30, immigration is notified about you.

And BTW, I've never had a landlord actually do a TM30 for me. Always had to do them myself.

Good luck.

I would be super wary of a hotel that doesn't file tm30s for every guest arriving each day as is required by the government. It's all done in a simple online reporting site that any hotel can register on. It's a requirement they report every guest within 24 hours of check-in.

Serious question, because I don't know, but why would you need a copy? I am pretty sure plenty have been filed when I stayed in hotels but I've never been given a copy nor have I ever had a need for the copy. I am sure there is some reason I am missing or not thinking about?

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Here are the links to the programs:

Online [best option]:



Apple:



Android



Did you ask them how they normally do the TM30? If you can get a copy of the paper receipt (first image in the attached JPG), it will be accepted.