Unanswered3 months ago
Does Thailand immigration require tax information before giving login details for a DTV visa application?
Do Thailand immigration request for your taxes before they give you your login information my broker said they need my tax information which is being requested by immigration and he told me I will get my login information on Tuesday. This seems a little sketchy. Is my broke lying to me. Dtv visa
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A user expressed confusion over whether Thailand immigration requests tax information before providing login details for their DTV visa application. While some commenters indicated this might be a scam, others mentioned that tax records could be requested under certain circumstances, particularly for work-related applications. The conversation highlighted concerns about the legitimacy of the user's broker, with many suggesting caution and verifying the information directly with the immigration or embassy authorities.
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Lawrie *******
The only interest the Immagration have about me and my income is to review every 12 months that I've deposited a min of 40k Bt in my Thai Bank Account from a transfer from outside of Thailand...
That seems to me to be the major consideration to renew my Marriage Visa for another 12 months... 555
That seems to me to be the major consideration to renew my Marriage Visa for another 12 months... 555
Paul ***********
Sounds like bs.
Steve *********
Immigration department has nothing to do with the Revenue Department.
Per ***************
If you pay tax in your home country you don't have to pay tax one more time
Arthur **********
I want to go to Thailand for 88 days with my Thai wife what documents do I need?
John ***********
They usually just want your social security number.
Deborah *******
Scammer's always want so social security number and personal information. Someone purchased a car in my name in the past. Be VERY careful, protect your information. You can go online for immigration and st up your own account
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Paul *******
Get rid of him
Neil *******
The minute you give ANY tax info.to the Thai authorities in any format, they will attempt over time to squeeze part of it off you. WAKE UP!!
Yo***
The author of this post still does not understand what is immigration and embassy. They are totally different departments. Thai immigration did not request his tax at all. And Thai immigration in this case has nothing to do with his visa at all. According to this, I assume, Thai embassy in his country suspected something from him. So they requested this and would be more.
Chris *******
This is what I think he wants to ask:
I hired an agent to handle my DTV application based on workation.
The embassy is requesting further documentation in the form of tax return.
I don't have the evisa login, the agent promised to give it to me.
If the agent hasn't given you the login it's likely because you're business with them is not complete.
You need to supply whatever the agent/embassy wants to get approved.
This is how I've interpreted the post...
Might be wrong but kinda makes more sense.
I hired an agent to handle my DTV application based on workation.
The embassy is requesting further documentation in the form of tax return.
I don't have the evisa login, the agent promised to give it to me.
If the agent hasn't given you the login it's likely because you're business with them is not complete.
You need to supply whatever the agent/embassy wants to get approved.
This is how I've interpreted the post...
Might be wrong but kinda makes more sense.
Steve******
I think the TO is mixing up several things. The reason could be that he doesn't understand the process, the explanation of the visa agent and maybe did Google research.
I'm just assuming:
He engaged a visa agent to prepare and file his DTV application.
The agent gathered several information. Some information provided might not be sufficient or - based on the experience of the agent - the embassy is usually requesting additional information such as latest tax returns to prove the annual income situation.
Due to work capacity the agent will start with the preparation and filing on Tuesday, i.e. the login details would be available by then.
Is it a scam? Sure it still could be a scam, but I guess the TO is just totally confused and mixing up things.
By the way:
It is not unusual that embassies request tax returns. If you apply as a freelancer or self-employed for a remote work DTV it is usually the only way to properly prove the income situation.
Also if you apply for the work from Thailand professionals LTR you have to submit the last two tax returns to prove that you meet the income requirements.
I'm just assuming:
He engaged a visa agent to prepare and file his DTV application.
The agent gathered several information. Some information provided might not be sufficient or - based on the experience of the agent - the embassy is usually requesting additional information such as latest tax returns to prove the annual income situation.
Due to work capacity the agent will start with the preparation and filing on Tuesday, i.e. the login details would be available by then.
Is it a scam? Sure it still could be a scam, but I guess the TO is just totally confused and mixing up things.
By the way:
It is not unusual that embassies request tax returns. If you apply as a freelancer or self-employed for a remote work DTV it is usually the only way to properly prove the income situation.
Also if you apply for the work from Thailand professionals LTR you have to submit the last two tax returns to prove that you meet the income requirements.
Bobby ********
What do you need a broker for? 
Steve******
@Bobby *******
I think the TO means a visa agent.
Sue **********
Be careful with this agent. DTV ist a tourist visa. This means you have nothing to with tax you aren‘t even able to open a Thai Bank acc legally.
Steve******
Sue Heimchen nothing to do with tax? You could - at least theoretically - stay 333 days a year in Thailand. You become a Thai tax resident after staying 180 days per year in Thailand. That doesn't necessarily mean that you have to pay taxes but officially you would have to file and submit a Thai tax return.
Opening a bank account and tax has nothing to do with each other.
And as others already said, the problem here might be, that the TO doesn't understand the process.
The agent might have gathered all information upfront. Probably based on previous experience with this particular embassy. Sometimes payslips are sufficient sometimes not and then a tax return would be the most official proof of income. Maybe the agent will start the application process next Tuesday due to other outstanding tasks and that could be the reason why the TO would receive the login details then.
Opening a bank account and tax has nothing to do with each other.
And as others already said, the problem here might be, that the TO doesn't understand the process.
The agent might have gathered all information upfront. Probably based on previous experience with this particular embassy. Sometimes payslips are sufficient sometimes not and then a tax return would be the most official proof of income. Maybe the agent will start the application process next Tuesday due to other outstanding tasks and that could be the reason why the TO would receive the login details then.
Sue **********
Steve_
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ok
Ant ***********
Nonsense
Jenn *********************
Scam
Yo***
I am wondering if your agent is lying to you, your tax number in your country, what benefit can get your agent from this???? he will pay your tax for you? 😅😅
Harry *******
OPYoung can use my ss numbers for fraud
Tayaout *****************
Sounds like a scam.
Andreas ********
Login for what? Confusing post🤷♂️
Christopher ********
Scam is a strong word. It might be worth it to ask for their reason
Ivan ************
Can you give a bit more detail on exactly what stage you are at and what is being asked for?
If you are applying for the DTV, which one, workation or soft power?
It's common for a consulate to want to see tax returns when applying for the DTV. They don't always ask for this but they often do. Particularly if applying for a work DTV, they want this to verify the income you claim.
I'm presuming login information is your login to the Thai e-visa portal.
Maybe step back and explain in more detail exactly what stage you're at and what the question is. But if this interpretation above is what you mean, then yes it is normal for them to want to see a tax return.
If you are applying for the DTV, which one, workation or soft power?
It's common for a consulate to want to see tax returns when applying for the DTV. They don't always ask for this but they often do. Particularly if applying for a work DTV, they want this to verify the income you claim.
I'm presuming login information is your login to the Thai e-visa portal.
Maybe step back and explain in more detail exactly what stage you're at and what the question is. But if this interpretation above is what you mean, then yes it is normal for them to want to see a tax return.
Gerar ********
Looks like your getting scammed as immigration don’t care about or request tax information.
Jamie **************
Sounds like a scam to me.
Never ever heard of such a thing
Never ever heard of such a thing
GreenPo********
You're being scammed
Glyn **********
GreenPomelo3895 you don't know that!
GreenPo********
Glyn Williams if he not have a work permit he's being scammed up 2u
Paul ********************
Roel van Hameren but it does for example if you are on a work permit you need need to supply your tax records before they approve another year.. So the requirement is in place already they can easily extend that requirement to all 12 month extensions of stay.. The OP doesn't specify what he is applying for
Harry *******
OPPaul Anthony McDermott Dtv visa
Alexander *************
At this stage there is absolutely no demand or request to provide tax information to the immigration not even your tax no. However, theoretically this could be an issue in the future.
Graeme *******
Alexander DThornerian if they ever get their act together
Ian *****
Alexander DThornerian Last few years there been a lot of talk about having a tax number to renew retirement visa but on the day I found the officer said not yet ?? A friend also went to revenue dept to check and they told him if your not earning money in Thailand no TN needed ..... since then theres been a lot of talk about tax on money brought in as well so whilst you have a valid question and one many are asking as usual different depts have different rules and in the end we are in the middle trying to work it out but one thing can be said about the confusion is many lawyers and financial advisers are earning well over the confusion.
Alexander *************
Ian May terminate all doubts and check with Thai revenue service directly. They have quite a good web page in English and yes 100% clear - if you remit money into Thailand you have to file a tax report having a TIN. The actual tax situation depends on your countries DTA but filing is mandatory.
Paul ********************
Alexander DThornerian yes there is if you have a work permit you need to supply all your tax details before they renew your work permit... There is nothing stopping them requiring this for other long term visas and extensions of stay... With the current Crack downs on bank accounts etc I guess it's just a matter of time when they will tie your tax affairs to your EOS
Alexander *************
Paul Anthony McDermott yes, I sincerely believe it will be the case and quite soon
GreenPo********
Paul Anthony McDermott totally agree it's coming
Paul ********************
GreenPomelo3895 it will be a progressive implementation upto the banking crackdown on who is holding accounts it's been free for all, they have effectively closed the door on anyone who is not a long term resident to hold a bank account.. Ie to hold an account you must in practice be tax resident.. To be a long term "visa" holder you must be tax compliant.. As long as the next step
Cliff *********
Scam ahead.
You don’t do this for entering the country or for immigration check in.
Run away quickly!
You don’t do this for entering the country or for immigration check in.
Run away quickly!
Paul ********************
Cliff Sussman nope a logical conclusion to the crack down on bank accounts and nominee stuff
I predict in the not too distant future you will need to prove all your tax affairs are in order before being issued a long term extension of stay or visa in Thailand, with the threshold being at 180 days 👍
I predict in the not too distant future you will need to prove all your tax affairs are in order before being issued a long term extension of stay or visa in Thailand, with the threshold being at 180 days 👍
RadiantC********
Paul Anthony McDermott Very unlikely. No need to fear monger. Thai authorities have no way of dealing with foreign tax documents. Not their jurisdiction.
Paul ********************
RadiantCamel1017 er after 180 days in Thailand as a foreigner...You are tax resident and it is their jurisdiction... 🤦
i can't understand how people are so clueless about multiple tax jurisdictions actually work... 😂
Let's keep it simple for you
180 days or more in Thailand in a tax year, your are resident for tax.. So yes you are under their jurisdiction and tax laws
Currently the tax law only applies to money remitted to Thailand as assessable income, but there is nothing stopping making your worldwide income assessible in Thailand, no different to what the US does with its citizens and green card holders
Not a case they can't do it, it's a case of will they do it ❓
And by extension there is nothing stopping them requiring to prove your tax affairs are in order in Thailand prior to giving you long term visa or extension of stay renewal, exactly as they do now with work permit holders.. You need to prove your tax affairs are in order prior to them giving you your extension
You sound like one of those people who were saying put your house/business under a nominee business structure... They will never crack down on that 🤦
i can't understand how people are so clueless about multiple tax jurisdictions actually work... 😂
Let's keep it simple for you
180 days or more in Thailand in a tax year, your are resident for tax.. So yes you are under their jurisdiction and tax laws
Currently the tax law only applies to money remitted to Thailand as assessable income, but there is nothing stopping making your worldwide income assessible in Thailand, no different to what the US does with its citizens and green card holders
Not a case they can't do it, it's a case of will they do it ❓
And by extension there is nothing stopping them requiring to prove your tax affairs are in order in Thailand prior to giving you long term visa or extension of stay renewal, exactly as they do now with work permit holders.. You need to prove your tax affairs are in order prior to them giving you your extension
You sound like one of those people who were saying put your house/business under a nominee business structure... They will never crack down on that 🤦
Graham ******
Paul Anthony McDermott but this is now not some idea in your head so it's not real
Paul ********************
Graham Seal but it is real ... If you have a work permit you have to prove your tax is up to date every year before getting your extension of stay
The law is already in place, all they need to do is extend who this applies to...
The law is already in place, all they need to do is extend who this applies to...
Donald **********
Broker? Agent?
John *******
You are being scammed
Graham ******
John Letaw sounds very suspicious
Harry *******
OPI have an broker doing process for me but he requested my tax information last week I gave tax documents I’m from USA and he told me I will get my login information next week so I can check my process, but I don’t understand if I do not have my login information why they requested my taxes and he told me the embassy requested it DTV VISA
Yo***
Harry Patal Very confused and unclear. Are you in Thailand?? Are you processing your DTV in Thailand?? with an agent? or in USA? with an agent?? your agent is Thai and working in Thailand? or American working in USA?? You are doing extension of stay with DTV in Thailand?? So you gave your tax doc to the agent? tax number from USA or Thailand? you stayed more than 180 days last year in Thailand? all is unclear and confused.
Steve******
Young your comments are more confused than anything else in the post.
Yo***
Harry Patal that is what your country required from the embassy ( Thai embassy in USA here?) You are processing your visa in your country through Thai embassy there? if yes, it is your country requested. The agent in this case has nothing to do for that.
Wannikea *********
Harry Patal I think this would be a good time for a full stop until you understand exactly what's going on.
John **********
@Harry ******
I guess by broker you mean an agent that is filing a DTV application on your behalf. The consulate processing your application can indeed request proof that you are a registered tax payer in your home country, particularly for applications based on remote work.Harry *******
OP@John *********
yes but will they ask for this information without having an online account to login?Yo***
Harry Patal Thai embassy in your country just followed the rules of your country. So your country made it so. Thai embassy has nothing to do with your tax in USA. and it is not Thai immigration. but thai embassy in your country. your agent needs it because your country need Thai embassy to do it.
John **********
@Harry ******
I've no idea how an agent processes your application, if all they are doing is using the exact same process as you or I would why even bother using them?
Brandon ************
@Harry ******
the agent is the one with your login information. They had to create an account under your name before they could even submit an application. The embassy doesn't have anything to give you. The agent is lying.Harry *******
OPAnd he told me like five minutes ago I will get my login information from the embassy on Tuesday
Roel **************
Tax have nothing to do with immigration for visa or something. Tax only for expats who stay longer then 180 days in Thailand
Paddy ********
🤦♂️
Brandon ************
What login information? What are you talking about?
Jordan *******
Broker is not truthful
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