Can you extend your 9-month ED visa in Thailand without having to exit the country?

Sep 15, 2021
3 years ago
Tony *******
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ED visa help: I just talked to Prolanguage Pattaya and they said one the 9 month ED visa expires, you would have to exit TH or apply for a different visa. Is this true? There is no way to continue with the ED visa without exiting?
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The inquiry concerns the process surrounding the 9-month ED (Education) visa in Thailand, specifically whether one must exit Thailand upon expiration or can continue without leaving. The responses indicate that prior to Covid, exiting the country was mandatory for visa renewal. However, current rules allow for in-country conversions and renewals for extended periods. Variability in enforcement is noted, with different immigration offices applying rules differently. Suggestions include consulting with the school and using an agent for visa assistance.
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Tod *********
@Raymond *****
if all you're doing is trying to enroll in a school to pretend to learn thai so you can further your stay here, just give the ED visa a pass and go find an agent that can get you the in country Non-O pretend to volunteer, volunteer visa and year extension which gives you 15 months in country without doing anything but handing over your passport and a pile of baht.
Tony *******
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@Tod ********
I did not know this, ty. Would you mind telling me more about this?
Steve *******
You'll need to bung an agent to get an ED visa in country for a private language school
Brandon ************
@Steve ******
why would you waste money on an agent when hundreds or thousands of people have successfully switched to ED with the help of their legitimate school for only the price of tuition and the 1900โ‚ฟ fee at immigration?
Mike *******
Yeah. Till your first 90 days and you go to immigration and they ask you to show what you learned.
Tony *******
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@Mike ******
that was exactly what I was thinking.
Steve *******
@Brandon ***********
Many of the "legitimate schools" are just glorified agents, people bunging them 30-40k just to get a visa/extention.
Tod *********
@Steve ******
I think you're slightly confused, the "real" language schools don't charge anything to provide the paperwork to get an ED visa or to get 90 day extensions. You get that for free from them IF you enroll in xxx hours of class time <- that's what you're paying for ๐Ÿ˜‰
Steve *******
@Tod ********
Yeah, the real ones.
@Bra****
thinks they're ALL real, many are basically 'glorified agents' charging bucks for paperwork/visa and not giving a shit about teaching you Thai. They even open their spin with 'we'll sort the visa', nothing about their teaching skills. FFS!
Tony *******
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@Steve ******
im curious, how would you pass the immigration test if the schools don't really teach?
Have *******
@Brandon ***********
because you just want the visa?
Brandon ************
@Dave ******
lots of less legitimate schools that will still do it for you without an agent. You just pay for tuition and don't have to attend classes. But it's still a legitimate visa. I don't trust agent visas. They're usually gotten by bribes.
Tony *******
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@Steve ******
what do you mean "bung"?
Steve *******
Tony *******
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@Steve ******
do you mean those agents you just pay and they issue you a visa? Without going to class?
Brandon ************
It's kind of a weird situation and difficult to get a good answer right now. Before Covid this was true, you would have to leave Thailand to get your ED visa and then renew it every few months for 9 months. Then leave Thailand again to get another ED for 6 more months (or something similar to this).

Right now there's a lot of special rules in effect, like you can convert your visa to ED inside the country, and generally you can renew for 12 months across multiple extensions.

BUT different immigration offices interpret the rules differently. Technically the in-country converted ED visa rules state you can only be in the country for 12 months total. So if you were in Thailand for 6 months before converting to ED, you could only get 6 months more. This is only being selectively enforced and the Ministry of Education told my school I could stay until my ED was 12 months total, which would have put me in the country for 14 months. I'll be leaving before then so I can't verify.

You will need your school to verify with immigration and/or the ministry of education. It'll be difficult for you to get an answer because both of them play a part in this and I don't even know if you can talk to the ministry yourself.
Brandon ************
It's easy for your school to just say the 9 month thing though because those are the old rules and it's highly unlikely there's anyone in the country right now that has hit 9 months of ED extensions since the new rules were put in place. I was the first person in Bangkok to do an in-country ED conversion and that was at the beginning of the year.
Tony *******
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@Brandon ***********
that was a lot of good information, ty. I thought it was a bit confusing because looking at different schools and speaking to different reps, there were several different answers. You helped clear it up for me. Basically what you're saying is everything is not 100% certain.
Brandon ************
@Raymond *****
nothing is EVER 100% certain when it comes to immigration issues in Thailand unfortunately. You will get different answers from different offices, and even different employees in the same office. If they had a bad lunch you might get a different answer in the morning compared to the afternoon. It's difficult, but going in prepared as possible helps so you know what questions to ask and when you can press an issue.
Tony *******
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@Brandon ***********
I wil take that advice. I definitely wasn't aware of what you're saying and it's making my head spin.
Tod *********
@Raymond *****
it's certainly NOT a way to come here and spend a few years anymore like it used to be. The immigration office and the MOE (Ministry of Education) caught on to the people milking ED visa/extensions for 3 or more years under the guise of pretending to study.
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