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Can I use my current TM30 form to apply for a one-year extension on my non-O retirement visa in Thailand?
I arrived in Thailand on a non-O retirement visa on October 16th. On October 17th, I opened a bank account with Kasikornbank and transferred 900,000 baht to it. I'm renting an apartment; the owner submitted a TM30 form online to the immigration office. I bought a condominium on November 21st. The apartment building owner immediately completed a TM30 form for me and submitted it online to the immigration office. I'm going to the immigration office on December 18th to apply for a one-year extension. My question now is: Can I still use the immigration certificate, the TM30 form from November 21st, to apply for a one-year extension, or do I need to create a new TM30 form? And who should fill it out? Should I fill it out myself, or can the apartment building owner do it for me? Thank you very much for your help.
Answer summary
The user seeks clarification on whether they can apply for a one-year extension on their non-O retirement visa using their TM30 form submitted on November 21st after purchasing a condominium, or if a new TM30 form is required. Responses in the comments indicate that the latest TM30 is valid for application, and that they can use the TM30 related to their current residence. The TM30 may be completed by the apartment owner, but as the property owner, the user should ensure it reflects their current living address. It is also noted that other factors such as leaving the country could affect TM30 validity.
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Jeff *************
I suggest you go to immigration and just ask them what they want from you to be legal
Fred ********
Such a simple process.
Bob **********
Use the tm30 that has your correct address
John **********
You use the TM30 for where you currently live. It doesn't matter that you own a condo if you don't live there
Rudi ***********
OP@John *********
Won't it be confusing for immigration if they receive a TM 30 document on December 18th (when I apply for my extension) for the apartment I'm currently renting, while immigration already received a TM 30 on November 21st for the apartment I bought?John **********
@Rudi **********
they won't care but you will need to have your landlord file a fresh TM30 for the place you are renting. Each TM30 replaces the previous one.Rudi ***********
OP@John *********
thank you John!
Jim *******
There is only one valid TM30 and that is the latest one. It can be 10 years or whatever old.
Ally ************
It sounds like you have a current tm30 for your condo.. which is presumably the address you will be using for your extension.. this remains valid until you either travel overseas or stay somewhere else in Thailand (such as a hotel) that registers you as a guest.. since being registered at another property severs your 'home' registration.. therefore requiring a new tm30 to be submitted once you return to your normal residence.. some provincial immigration offices waive the need to resubmit a new tm30 if you are returning to your permanent (ie. on record) address after touring inside Thailand.. so it's best to check with them.. however it is always compulsory if returning from overseas and getting an entry stamp in your passport.. your tm30 will state 'date entered' and this needs updating as part of a new tm30 submission.
John ********
@Ally ***********
interesting information mate. Thanks a lot. I’ve got a TM30 already but I’m popping off to Kanthaburj for a few days. I’ll get another TM30 just to be safe I reckon. It’s easy for me because the Mrs is the landlady.Ally ************
@John *******
If you stay away from 'home' overnight then you need to ascertain whether you've been registered as a guest or not.. hotels will usually do so automatically and will ask you for your passport in order to do it.. which invalidates your earlier tm30 in respect of your home residence.. so you need to submit a new tm30 upon returning home.. however if you are married to a Thai then I'd suggest you always book any overnight accommodation in her name.. because hotels will usually treat the booking as hers and ignore the fact her spouse is a foreigner.. and since as a Thai national she's exempt from the tm30 process this means you don't disrupt your home registration at all.. this doesn't apply when touring overseas of course 😉 Ps. If staying with family or friends in a private residence.. then they are likely to be unfamiliar with the tm30 requirements anyway.. and you retain control of whether they do or don't register you.. so you can conspire to avoid it altogether.. though bear in mind if you are staying in another province and need to go into a police station say.. or deal with immigration locally.. it would be wise to submit a tm30 for your temporary address before you visit such premises 😉John ********
@Ally ***********
Brilliant. Actually things have changed a bit because my mate in the UK has booked a house so I don’t think I’ll need to do anything. It’s something I hadn’t thought of though. I’m in country on a tourist visa and planning to get my non O next month. I’ve got a bank account from years ago fully funded.
Rudi ***********
OP@Ally ***********
According to the latest TM30 form, I live in my apartment as the owner, but I'm actually still renting for the time being because my apartment still needs to be furnished and the kitchen installed. So, I need to use the TM30 form from November 21st to apply for my extension on December 18th. Is that document allowed to be that old?Ally ************
@Rudi **********
Provided both properties are in the same province.. and under the jurisdiction of the same immigration office.. then personally I'd just use the condo as my main residence.. and since you already have a current tm30 for that address you use that addy for your extension application.. if using the rental apartment as your address you will need a tm30 attached to it.. but your original tm30 was invalidated by your new tm30 for the condo.. you can only have one valid tm30 registration at any given time.. and your most recent one is the one currently held in the system.. hence the old tm30 has already been overwritten and is now defunct.. if proceeding based on the rental addy you would have to resubmit a tm30 for that addy.. and do it again when you officially move into the condo 😉Ally ************
@Rudi **********
You can only use your very latest tm30.. any earlier tm30's are effectively cancelled as soon as you submit a new tm30 registration.. so if your first tm30 was for your rental property.. and you then bought the condo and registered a new tm30 for that property.. your current tm30 is the only valid one.. it supercedes the earlier one.. so if you want to extend using the rental property as your current address.. you will need to resubmit a tm30 based on that address and get it printed out.. the old one cannot be used!Rudi ***********
OP@Ally ***********
The apartment I'm renting and the one I currently own are in the same province. So I'll use the TM30 form for my apartment. Thank you very much for the information.
Graham ******
Why would the building owner do your TM30 if you own your condo?
Ally ************
@Graham *****
I would agree.. assuming he is submitting a tm30 for the condo he recently bought.. but the OA suggests this has already been done.. i think he is referring to the rental apartment landlord (or unit management) instead.. which suggests he wants to use the rental address on his application.. rather than the condo he owns.. which doesn't make sense to me really.. understand there may be an overlap while he runs his lease down.. but if he's going to be living in the condo then surely use that address 🤔Rudi ***********
OP@Ally ***********
So, I think it would be best if I use the TM30 form from November 21st, the form that proves I'm the owner...Rudi ***********
OP@Greg **********
It seems best to me that, if I apply for my extension, I'll temporarily have the owner of the rental complex where I'm currently renting fill out a DM30 form again. This way, I won't have to notify my bank of my change of address. Once I receive my yellow house book, I'll try to fill out the TM30 form online myself as the owner, and then I'll move in. After all the positive feedback, this seems like the best solution.
Greg ***********
@Rudi **********
you can register your condo online in the TM30 system, before you can add yourself as the "guest". For the initial registration, you need the blue housebook number of the condo. You would maybe do your first TM30 in person on Immigration, however after having registered your condo, you get a Login-ID and a password, you can from then on report your arrival at the condo as the "guest" online. It would be good if you ask the Immigration if they want you to report your arrival each time you come from abroad, even if you arrive at the same adress as beforeRudi ***********
OP@Ally ***********
I'm glad you told me this. I also have to go to Kasikornbank and change my address, because they have the address of the apartment I'm currently renting, which I needed to open my bank account.Ally ************
@Rudi **********
The residential address stated on the tm30 must match the address you write on the extension application.. and all other relevant supporting documentation that includes an address must also match.. such as bank statements.. though it's feasible for older statements to reflect a former address.. your most recent statement should match your tm30 addy.
Tony **********
They will see your latest tm30 as soon as they bring you up on the computer. I've never brought a tm30 receipt to anything for immigration in hua hin. I just being copy of my lease
Ally ************
@Tony *********
In CM you must produce your tm30 when applying for an extension.. and when doing your 90-day report.. and basically when applying for anything from immigration.. such as a CoR 😲
Sylvia ********
@Ally ***********
same in jomtien
Jesper *******
Use your latest TM30 to apply for extension OR checkin to hotel and use their TM30
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