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Can I use a yearly lease as proof of accommodation for a Thai tourist eVisa application?

Billy *********
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Proof of payment for accommodation

Number 6 on. TR tourist evisa check list.

Thai embassy KL

Any idea if the yearly lease of my condo would work as a substitute for such a document.

Bank transfer proof will only show proof of transfer of funds. Not sure if owner or agents would supply tax number on a receipt. Has anyone had any experience of supplying such a document
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The discussion revolves around whether a yearly lease of a condo can substitute for proof of accommodation required for a Thai tourist eVisa application at the Thai embassy in Kuala Lumpur. Several commenters share their insights and past experiences, suggesting that while proof of lodging isn't always strictly enforced at all consulates, it's advisable to obtain a receipt from the landlord or provide alternative documentation, such as proof from a hotel booking. There are differing opinions on the necessity of a long-term lease when applying for a tourist visa.
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Thaimer ******
Thaimer ******
Why even bother with visa when you can enter Thailand without visa?
Lynnette *******
Lynnette *******
@Thaimer *****
he doesn't want to say.
Cissi *********
Cissi *********
@Lynnette ******
I think he "kind of" answered you by "...you are not limited to any number of entries till the day you get stopped entering. For £30 or so I'll keep them sweet and buy a visa."

I assume that he has entered visa exempt x amount of times and that he is worried that "the day he's stopped from entering" is approaching. I get the feeling that the OP wrongfully believe that a tourist visa would exempt him from being denied to enter.
Billy *********
Billy *********
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@Lynnette ******
save guessing 6 visa exempt this year totaling 84 days upto today in total No border bounces as I only holiday in Asia. Hopefully someone will answer my question who has recently done a tourist Evisa through KL

When I stayed in Thailand (prehistoric days & nights) it was non O and work permit
Lynnette *******
Lynnette *******
@Cissi ********
yes. Probably. But wasn't prepared to say, liked everyone guessing. Lol.
Cissi *********
Cissi *********
@Lynnette ******
any guess is fine. 😁

However, besides having a year lease in Thailand, he apparently have a condo in Malaysia where he spend a lot of time too... hence my guess is that he is worried about his number of visa exempt entries, rather than border bounces.
Lynnette *******
Lynnette *******
@Cissi ********
I know what he said. But it didn't answer the actual question of why he, personally, needed a Tourist visa. But as he's got a year lease on a condo he may be avoiding too many border bounces. It's a guess.
Thaimer ******
Thaimer ******
@Cissi ********
exactly. If he’s done back to back entries he will deny him entry with or without visa.

If immigration officers is not in a mood his visa won’t help him a lot
Aaron *******
Aaron *******
If this helps. I own a condo. When required proof of lodging. I provide the Thai document, which shows I own a condo. Never had this refused.
Bonnie *********
Bonnie *********
@Aaron ******
I would think that applying for a TV with a document would cause additional problems. I don't know why he doesn't want to get a proper visa. I would easily wonder why someone was trying to live in Thailand on a tourist visa.
Billy *********
Billy *********
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@Bonnie ********
living in Thailand trashed that tee shirt years ago.

I am a tourist full time not dedicated in any fashion to Thailand so TR tourist visa for Thailand is the correct visa for me.
Bonnie *********
Bonnie *********
@Billy ********
you're so droll. Read the rules. Or flaunt them. It doesn't affect me in any way.

Live that crapshoot of trying to live in Thailand on tourist visas.
Sab *****
Sab *****
KL is a tough place to begin with. In the past they accepted 60 day hotel bookings which i usually did on Agoda (just book a hostel for 2$ a night in Chiang Mai, so its only like 120$ for 59 nights) - make sure you use one that offers free cancellation. Cancel it as soon as your visa is approved.
Brandon ************
Brandon ************
They've switched to e-visa here so there's not even a place to upload this information. They might ask you for additional information after you submit your application though.
Cissi *********
Cissi *********
@Billy ********
proof of payment for accomodation is definitely not a requirement for Tourist Visas on all Thai consulates/embassies. A lot of tourists like to travel around, "go with the flow" and apply for SETV without a set itinerary...

The owner from who you have the yearly lease SHOULD be able to provide you with a reciept with the requested info if you make a payment for 2 month (the 60 day visa period).

If not, then ask if you can end the lease (since they can't give you a reciept for your payment!), then get a new accomodation...

...or take a chance, pay for 2 nights in a hotel plus add a note stating you will be travelling around without a set itinerary and hope/pray they will accept this, since it's a pretty normal tourist behavior. (My guess it is even more normal for a tourist visa application, than having a yearly lease staying in 1 place for all 60 days.)
Sab *****
Sab *****
@Cissi ********
KL is a tough consulate. Been there too. If your onward flight is 2 months later they'll request to see hotel bookings for the entire period. Not just 2 nights.
Cissi *********
Cissi *********
@Sab ****
I did understand the specific requirement. I mearly suggested that he could TRY, pray and hope! Hotel bookings for the entire period doesn't seem to be enough either (even though other embassies accept that) - they ask for "proof of payment". So the best is, of course, if he can get a reciept from the owner of the accomodation that he actually pays for... it doesn't seem like he's even asked!

...or he could just give up his Tourist Visa application in KL!
Cissi *********
Cissi *********
@Billy ********
well, technically you are right - you can merge several docs into 1 pdf. However, if there are no place in the e-visa system to upload accomodation details, then where are you planning on adding this pdf?

I suggest that you create an account on the Thai E-visa platform and start to add your details. That way you can decide if and where you should upload a pdf about your accomodation.

I understand that you want to plan ahead, but since you have a problem obtaining this document and the e-visa platform doesn't require it, my suggestion was, and still is, to apply with the documentation that are in fact asked for in the system and wait. They may or may not ask you to submit additional information. And they may or may not use the exact wording "proof of payment...", but there is a chance they might ask for it in a different way too, like in the NZ example "proof of accomodation, e.g. hotel booking..."

If it were me, I'd apply and wait to see what they ask for (if anything), but of course you do as you please. If you can come up with a solution on how to prove that you paid for accomodation that's great!
Billy *********
Billy *********
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@Cissi ********
yes seen copy of Thai ID signed is sufficient instead of Tax number if it's an individual Thai person.

Correct me if wrong but listing documents and merging all the pdf's onto one file solves the problem of presenting documents in the first application. Just trying to get it correct first time so I'm planning ahead of application.
Cissi *********
Cissi *********
@Billy ********
You wrote "Not sure if owner or agents would supply tax number on a reciept"... that lead me to believe you hadn't asked.

Anyway, as Brandon mentioned in another comment, there are nowhere to upload this information in the e-visa system... so if you really want to apply in KL - do so - while you figure out a solution what to do IF they request additional information from you regarding accomodation. If you are lucky the wording in such a request might be different... you won't know unless you try.

I'll add the requirements as they are listed in NZ as an example, see number 8. They ask for "proof of accomodation in Thailand, e.g. hotel bookings..."
Billy *********
Billy *********
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@Cissi ********
asking & receiving in Thailand don't always follow each other. I have asked, I use my condo in Malaysia where I spend a lot of time so applying there makes most sense..
John *******
John *******
Problem is, you are applying for a 60 day visa to be a tourist in Thailand but then at the same time showing you have an annual lease
Lynnette *******
Lynnette *******
@John ******
he might get away with "has a 1 year lease" if they don't scrutinise it. Applying to enter for 60 days as a tourist and showing you've been leasing a condo for almost a year might raise questions? I dunno. Someone else might.
Billy *********
Billy *********
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@Lynnette ******
stamps / history in Passport will verify amount of time in Thailand regardless of my lease agreement

so again it's number 6 on the list that's the subject of my concern.

Has anyone applied for a TR Evisa supplied number 6 or any alternative.

This is KL checklist which I suspect will be on all evisa application requirements for all Thai consulate / embassies
Tom *****
Tom *****
@Billy ********
I got my TR e-visa via Jakarta recently by submitting a one week hotel booking only
Lynnette *******
Lynnette *******
@Billy ********
most of us know our entries are recorded. I was only curious why you chose a tourist visa instead of visa exempt. You don't want to say. Okee dokee. Well just guess. Lol.
John *******
John *******
@Lynnette ******
We know Thai embassies in Malaysia are difficult, so yes
Billy *********
Billy *********
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@John ******
there's going to be 3 months left on my lease when I intend to apply for TR Evisa

my question is has anyone else produced such a document or an alternative
John *******
John *******
@Billy ********
- so what visa were you on for last 9 months?
Lynnette *******
Lynnette *******
You decided against 60 day entry with no visa and doing TV instead? Just curious, would that be because you've had many exempt entries? Or your passport doesn't allow exempt entry?
Garrett ***********
Garrett ***********
@Lynnette ******
This guys better than everyone else, let him waste his time and money.
Billy *********
Billy *********
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@Lynnette ******
trying to abide by the visa system rather than dance round it.
Paul ***********
Paul ***********
@Billy ********
you can get a 60 day visa waiver by just turning up with you passport and can extend another 30 days
Phil ******
Phil ******
@Billy ********
a 60-day Visa Exemption is a valid Thai Immigration method of entry for passports from 93 countries. Not illegal.
Lynnette *******
Lynnette *******
@Billy ********
I don't understand , why would exempt entry be "dancing around it"? A 60 day exempt entry is perfectly legit. Maybe you're applying for something gives you longer🤷.
Stéfan ********
Stéfan ********
@Thaimer *****
there was until recently, but only under the visa exemption scheme
Thaimer ******
Thaimer ******
@Stéfan *******
there’s no such thing as 2 land borders per year
Stéfan ********
Stéfan ********
@Cissi ********
great! I wasn’t aware of the change
Cissi *********
Cissi *********
@Stéfan *******
there are no restrictions for land border crossings anymore.
Stéfan ********
Stéfan ********
@Billy ********
getting a ‘proper’ tourist visa doesn’t exempt you from getting refused at the border. The only advantage it provides is that it’s holder isn’t restricted to the 2 land border crossings per year.
Lynnette *******
Lynnette *******
@Billy ********
I never said anyone was limited to "any number of entries". That's a bit random 🙄. I only asked why you chose the TV and not exempt. If you don't want to say, that's ok. . I'll have to just guess you've been border bouncing 🤷.
Billy *********
Billy *********
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@Lynnette ******
yes and you are not limited to any number of entries till the day you get stopped entering. For £30 or so I'll keep them sweet and buy a visa

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