Can I Switch from a Non B Visa to a Non O Visa After Expiration?

@Helen ***********

I don't think you understood my comment. I will write again more clearly.

Step 1. Get your extension and WP cancelled.

Step 2. Go on to Amnesty (an amnesty is not an extension of anything. Amnesty literally means a pardon for overstaying. So Thailand will let you overstay in Thailand with no fine or imprisonment until Sept 26th. No you do not need to go in and get anything for Amnesty, it is automatic. HOWEVER in your case you need to cancel you current extension and WP)

Step 3. Go to your embassy and arrange your paperwork, freedom to marry cert, etc.

Step 4. Get married.

Step 5. Take your marriage Cert to immigration and apply for either a 60 day family extension OR a year long extension of stay based on marriage (MUST BE BEFORE SEPT 26TH..!!!). Depends what they will give you. You might need to get the 60 day first. Who knows. BECAUSE you will be on amnesty, this extension will start from the 26th of September

Step 5. Get the stamp in your passport and drink a beer because hopefully you can now stay in Thailand past the 26th of September.

@Helen ***********

but can you get the marriage certificate before September 26th? That would be the new date of the expiration.

@Helen ***********

"the extension of stay which is due to expire on 21st will automatically be extended due to amnesty?"

Yes, that's what I'm thinking, they should extend it to September 26th. Just waiting for confirmation from the experts. ^_^

@Carissa ********

"they should extend it to September 26th"

They will not extend anything. She will go on to overstay, which is currently legal until September 26th.

@Michael *******

thank you for the clarification

So, if the amnesty is an overstay, would she be able to apply for an extension-of-stay? I thought you couldn't apply for one on an overstay.

@Carissa ********

As mentioned by Tod and Ben, YES you can, currently. Due to the exceptional circumstances. If she follows my steps above, she will be Golden.

@Carissa ********

There are more than a few reports of people being able to apply for extensions from amnesty. It's going to come down to what they went ON amnesty from and in the case of the O/P it's from cancelling a Non-B extension

@Carissa ********

They are making exceptions for people who are on the amnesty, since the borders are closed.

@Carissa ********

Technically, Amnesty period is not an extension, You are overstaying without any charge or fine because of amnesty. That's why in some cases you need to get 'hard" stamp to proceed,

@Tod ********

Yes, thank you. I know the process if she was on an extension, which she won't be when she applies. I was just thinking of alternatives in case they wouldn't let her apply for it with her expired extension.

@Carissa ********

She cannot apply for a Non-O visa from ANYTHING other than a 30 day visa exempt or a tourist visa entry stamp. There is no get a Non-O visa from amnesty from an extension based on employment :(

She either pulls off getting married in the required time frame (before amnesty runs out) or she "prepares to depart" thailand on Sept 26th. There's no middle ground on it.

@James *******

is there anything else (other than a tourist visa or an exemption stamp) that she can convert to a Non-O using TM.86?

@Carissa ********

not that I am aware of. Possibly others can reply...

@Tod ********

@Robert ******

@James *******

actually, it might not even matter? How does the COVID automatic visa extension (until September 26, correct?) work for someone on a non-B extension of stay with a work permit set to expire? Will her extension automatically be renewed despite not having a valid work permit?

@Helen ***********

just needs a couple weeks of wiggle room to get the marriage documents sorted before applying for an extension of stay based on marriage.

@Carissa ********

can she get married to a Thai before Sep 26th ?

@James *******

Yes. She just needs to get the Affirmation of Freedom to Marry from the UK Embassy first.

@Carissa ********

then as Married to a Thai obtain the Extension of Stay for 60 days as family visit ...at Thai Immigration...1,900 Thai baht... prior to Sept 26th.

Is she marrying a Thai man ?

I assume she is... ???...

@James *******

Yes, marrying a Thai man but not married yet.

So, will her non-B extension-of-stay be renewed despite not having a valid work permit?

@Carissa ********

@Robert ******

??

@Helen ***********

yes, marriage is a requirement