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Can I stay out of Thailand for six months on a retirement visa?

Bas **********
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Hi, we are aiming to stay up to 180 days a year in Thailand. At the moment it's 3 to 4 months. Married, have land and house and yellow book and bank account with sufficient funds. If I go for retirement visa, can I stay out of the country for the other 6 months? Or would you recommend another visa.
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The user inquires whether they can stay out of Thailand for six months while holding a retirement visa, given their circumstances (married, owning land and a house, and having sufficient bank funds). Responses indicate that with a retirement visa, there are no specific restrictions on the number of days spent in or out of Thailand, allowing for flexibility. It's important to note the tax implications of being in Thailand for 180 days or more. Additionally, other visa options such as the DTV (Digital Nomad Visa) and marriage visa are discussed for potential suitability.
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Nigel ********
Nigel ********
Just make sure you've got a multi entry or single entry Permit every time you leave the kingdom
Roberto *********
Roberto *********
Why don't you get a marriage visa?
Bas **********
Bas **********
OP
@Roberto ********
that's the choices that I have to make. Married for over 25 years with my thai wife. We both live and work in the Netherlands
Roberto *********
Roberto *********
@Bas *********
So get a marriage visa for Thailand.
Roberto *********
Roberto *********
@Nick *********
Have you got anything useful to say? Or just trolling? Give the OP the options, then shut the fuck up
Nick **********
Nick **********
@Roberto ********
First you say to get a marriage visa, now you say the best is a DTV ? Makes no sense. The best visa depends on each person. And the "marriage" visa you say they should get comes with its own cons also.
Roberto *********
Roberto *********
@Nick *********
You obviously missed the fact that the OP is seeking advice and suggestions. The best visa of all is the DTV. Cheapest, low maintenance, easy to get. But it's not for everyone is it?
Nick **********
Nick **********
@Roberto ********
"so get a marriage visa" ????? Why would someone ALWAYS need to get a "marriage visa" over a non-O based on over 50 years or LTR type of "retirement" visa ? Doesn't make sense.

There are advantages and disadvantages to each of them, and the choice which one is best or most comfortable depends on each person's personal situation and mindset.
Elías ********
Elías ********
@Roberto ********
he might be married with a non-Thai person.
Roberto *********
Roberto *********
@Elías *******
He says he owns land?
Phil ******
Phil ******
@Roberto ********
yes he is married to a Thai lady
Gab ******
Gab ******
You'll have to double check, but I think DTV allows to enter and exit as many times as you like throughout the year. There would be different ways to get it, but using it as a kind of culture oriented visa, taking thai cooking classes, traditional boxing or others (I don't know: potery, thai massage, traditional dancing, maybe even a buddhist retreat at a Vipassana centre near Chiang Mia or Rai, etc.). If you don't plan to work, it can be valid for up to five years, the money in bank required and price for the visa might feel realistic to you, I don't know. I was aiming at this visa for remote work, but do not know so much information with certainty, so you'll have to make sure every precious piece of information makes sense and is to your advantage. And I believe you can stay up to 180 or a few more days in a row with this visa. After that, you have to exit to any SEA country or other, come back if you please, your passport still has to be valid, they might ask for proofs of funds, but if you inquire before exiting and coming back, maybe they could also ask for criminal record and health related infos when you come back, so better investigate those aspects before leaving the country. I feel like there's lots of "if" here. The is also visa O. If I understand well, the first time you get it (and it's rather cheap), it's good for 90 days. After, you can renew it for a year. They might ask questions and proofs related to your savings, criminal record and health state, and I think there is a possibility to ask for that one year visa several times from Thailand. DTV: you'd have to apply from another country, be it your own country or anywhere near in SEA for your convenience. Good luck!
Judy *******
Judy *******
You can leave Thailand for as long as you want with a retirement visa/extension but you must be back to renew before it expires
Colin **********
Colin **********
@Judy ******
and apply for a re-entry permit
Dick ********
Dick ********
Consider staying only 179 days to avoid becoming a Thai tax resident. That happens if you’re here for 180 days…cumulatively….in any calendar year.
Phil ******
Phil ******
@Dick *******
it really depends on your circumstances said my Thai and Australian accountant. Are you an accountant and understand the tax rules in your home country and here?
Andrew ***********
Andrew ***********
@Dick *******
and who's telling you that?. I Live here full time and don't pay any tax.
Todd *********
Todd *********
@Andrew **********
he is probably understanding the law better than you. The fact that you haven't yet paid any tax is not a positive.
Todd *********
Todd *********
@Andy ******
yes for sure. Thailand has 61 or so tax agreements in place. Which means 130 countries don’t have one. And as of 1 Jan 2024, we are clearly tax residents of Thailand. LTR holders are exempt tax. But everyone else MIGHT have an issue someday.

But I totally agree the tax agreements will help many of us from actually paying tax here
Andy *******
Andy *******
@Todd ********
why ? there are DTAs (certainly for in my case UK) income cannot be taxed twice
Todd *********
Todd *********
@Andy ******
totally agree. I would also imagine the Thai government is equally aware. Which is where the problems will occur
Andy *******
Andy *******
@Todd ********
I would imagine 10s of 000s of pensioners here are not paying tax on any income I stopped paying thai income tax when I closed my company I have a tax number but never been bothered by anyone since
Todd *********
Todd *********
@Andrew **********
no, both our situations are the same. At 180’days, we both became tax residents of Thailand as well.
Andrew ***********
Andrew ***********
@Todd ********
well I am a tax resident of Australia and after speaking to my accountant, a Thai lawyer and a accountant, i think I'm all good. But you are Canadian so maybe your situation is different to mine.
Todd *********
Todd *********
@Andrew **********
that would be great. IF you were only tax resident of Australia. But unfortunately, he is useless for your tax situation as a tax resident of thailand
Andrew ***********
Andrew ***********
@Todd ********
positive as I don't have anything to pay. And yes I have spoken to my accountant in Australia.
Dick ********
Dick ********
@Andrew **********
many people live here full time and don’t pay tax if their foreign income is not assessable. That doesn’t change the fact that folks are Thai tax residents once they stay in country for 180 days cumulatively in one year.

This from the Thai Revenue Department:

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Phil ******
Phil ******
@Dick *******
assessable income derived in you home country is taxable if you choose to be a tax resident of that country. Then there's DTA agreements also. Suggest you seek professional advice
Todd *********
Todd *********
With a retirement visa, there is no obligation for number of days in or out. You can stay inside for anything betweek 0-365
Bas **********
Bas **********
OP
Bank money is no problem. I just want flexibility
Bas **********
Bas **********
OP
@Todd ********
that's probably the easiest. What's the actual difference between this one and the marriage visa?
Randy ********
Randy ********
@Bas *********
banked money and paper work. Need more money baked for the retirement visa but you need more paperwork for the marriage visa. I’m married and will turn 50 next year. I will be doing the retirement visa instead of the marriage one.
Eva *********
Eva *********
@Todd ********
No more 90 days report in person?
Todd *********
Todd *********
@Eva ********
you must report every 90 IF you stay in country that long. If you don’t.. never need to report
Todd *********
Todd *********
@William *****
there is no need to report if you are outside the country. If you leave within 90 days each time… u never need to report
William ******
William ******
@Todd ********
so if you miss a 90 day report because of being out of the country, it does not void your visa?

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