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What is the best visa option for a 66-year-old retiree planning to split time between Thailand and the UK?

Aug 16, 2024
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Simon *********
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Hi from 2025 i plan to spend 180 days/ 6 months in Thailand and 6 months in UK per year(April-April). What is the best visa for me to

apply for? i will be 66, so retired not working and receive a UK monthly pension. So can i just keep getting a tourist visa and extending it or should i go for multi entry or retirement visa.

Thanks
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The query seeks advice on the most suitable visa for a 66-year-old retiree planning to spend 6 months in Thailand and 6 months in the UK each year. Multiple commenters suggest various options including a multiple entry tourist visa (METV), retirement visa, and the possibility of entering without a visa and extending stays. Important considerations include keeping stays below 180 days to avoid tax residency issues in Thailand and ensuring adequate residency in the UK for pension purposes. Many conclude that starting with an METV might be best, switching to a retirement visa later if desired.
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John *******
Book a dentist appointment our 2 get That new dtv 5 year multi entry visa 6 month a time

If you have money

Look into it
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Andy ********
The standard 60 day tourist visa would do the job with one extension and one hop out/in and one more extension Simon.
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Simon *******
I am doing the same ,came on a 60 day multiple entry that last 6 months so every 60 days you have to leave and returned and get 60 days each time, this can be done right upto the last day of your multiple entry visa that lasts 6 monthes then you will get another 60 days so you can get at least 6 months easily, even more, it costs £150 on line from Thai embassy in London.

This may look like the best option but buy the time you have paid £150 plus a boarder run every 60 day costing more money and being a pain ,I decided to get a 1 year retirement visa which was sorted by an agent quickly and simply,you don't need to have the 800,000bht in the bank the agent sorted that for me,in the long term it cost less and a lot less hassle .

If you want to know anymore detail Message me.

My retirement visa has to be renewed each year but the agent sorts it all out for
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Simon *********
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Many thanks all for the helpful replies. Will probably start with the METV and see how it goes then switch to a retirement visa if i want something more permanent. I have private UK pensions so will be subject to UK tax on them plus state pension. Not actually sure what my monthly income or tax bill will be yet until

i retire and know my tax level. My plan atm is to keep a residence in the UK and have summer in the UK, which is lovely even though we moan about the weather😂then off to Thailand from Nov till April. Hopefully i can make it work.
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@Simon ******
I’d be interested also as that’s what I’m looking into. Which agent did you use and costs? TIA Steph
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@Steph *******
Maneerat visa in Pattaya, first year is around 30,000bht to sort out retirement visa and bank account, then it's 12 500bht renewal every year.
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Steph ********
@Simon ******
thank you so much ☺️
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@Simon ******
Thanks how much was the agents fee for the initial Retirement visa?
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Christian **********
I've been using the METV for several years running, (typically for 5 month stays). It allows for 180 days with two mandatory exits after 60 days. If you actually plan a 6 month stay and take two exits to neighboring countries there'll be no issue with staying under the 180 day threshold if that's a concern.
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@Simon ********
Do mind that it has a bit of an expensive application fee but once issued there will be no need for extensions or reentry permits, which can add up. Good luck.
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Simon *********
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@Christian *********
Thanks the METV looks like my best option i think
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Mark ********
Thailand has concluded 61 double tax agreements with countries worldwide.
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Andy ********
@Mark *******
what advantage does that give us Mark?
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Mark ********
@Andy *******
Just Google it mate
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Ling *****
Same boat as you. If the 60 day free exemption continues I'll do that, if not I will apply for a non immigrant o visa pensioner. That will get me 90 days. Then I will have 2 options, go down the route of a 12 month extension with the appropriate funds or go to neighbouring country for a holiday and return for 30 visa exempt then extend that for a further 30 days. 5 months will do me. I like the first option better if it lasts.
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Allan *********
I believe HMRC UK residential status for taxation purposes requires minimum of 183 days in the UK during any tax year period. Does not have to be continuous. Also, don't forget, UK tax year runs 6 April to 5 April. Thailand use the calendar year, so 1st Jan to 31 Dec. You may wish to plan accordingly.
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Simon *********
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@Allan ********
yes thanks have thought that through
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Margaret ********
180 days in Thailand no issue. I can guide you.
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John ********
I would ensure that you spend 181 days in the UK to remain a resident and ensure your pension is not frozen and a maximum of 179 days in Thailand to ensure you are not tax resident in Thailand. 6 month Multiple entry visa is your friend
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Michael ********
My friend does same but uses multi entry tourist visa. But i think with new 60 day visa expemtion it makes that kind of pointless at moment. 60 + 30 Border run then 60 + 30.

You can plan border run somewhere nice if you havent visited other parts of S.E.Asia and get cheap flights from air asia way in advance.
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John **********
If you don't want to be tax resident in Thailand keep your stays to under 180 days per annum
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Peter *********
@John *********
scarmongerer
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Toby *******
From what I can see the UK tax rate is much higher so that shouldn't be an issue - still might need to submit some of tax return in Thailand detailing money remitted and showing tax has already been paid on it
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@John *********
It's okay the UK has a double taxation agreement with Thailand so that you do not pay tax on the same income in both countries.
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John **********
@James ******
that's not how it works. Basically you end up paying the higher of UK or Thai tax. Just because you pay tax in the UK doesn't mean you don't also pay tax in Thailand
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Peter *********
@John *********
nothing been decided yet Mr scaremongerer and also new priminister yesterday Thailand 🇹🇭
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John **********
@Peter ********
of course it's been decided, and published in the Royal Gazette last year
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Peter *********
@John *********
yes that was last year a lot changes in a year in Thailand 🇹🇭 ie new priminister yesterday lol 😆
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John **********
@Peter ********
that doesn't change the published law
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Peter *********
@John *********
you forget laws change every day in Thailand 🇹🇭 and how are they going to enforce it ? If not linked to visa who is going to declare ?
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John **********
@Peter ********
you are legally required to declare
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Peter *********
@John *********
so all thais declare lol 😆 legally you think lol 😆
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John **********
@Peter ********
all thais aren't required to, many are taxed via wages, many don't have enough income to be required to, the rest generally do
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Peter *********
@John *********
it will all dissappear soon
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@John *********
Yes it's fine.
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Pete *******
You could do all this without any visa. Enter visa exempt and extend then exit and re-enter visa exempt and extend again. 180 days in Thailand no issue.
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Ron ********
@Pete ******
Assuming the new 60 day rule will hold. I have my doubts. TiT.
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Pete *******
@Ron *******
Your opinion is irrelevant. Currently it’s possible.
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Luit *****************
@Pete ******
it might be possible if you are lucky when you enter the country or ask for extension. If the immigration officer decides 180 days each year is not normal tourist behaviour it won't work any longer.

So I think it is better just apply for correct visa.
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Simon *********
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@Luit ****************
so what is the correct visa?
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Luit *****************
@Simon ********
What is the correct visa depends on your situation. In case you qualify for DTV that might be the best option.

Other options are non-o retirement, but this needs you to be in Thailand at the correct time to extend for another year.

Multi entry tourist might also be an option.

And of course you can start with the visa exemption with 30 days extension and then borderrun until you meet an immigration officer that tells you, you should get a real visa next time.

The more stampt you get back to back in your passport, the higher the risk.

I already got questions from immigration officer and decided to go for DTV.
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Just wait and see. As soon as they get the numbers and revenue they are shooting for, it will revert back to 30.......especially since the PM that pushed it was just shown the door. But in any case, I hope I am wrong. But I don't think so.
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Graham ******
@Pete ******
Your opinion is it will continue based on nothing, the 45 days Visa Exempt didn't, and now Thailand has a new PM
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