Can I convert my Non-B visa and work permit to a new Non-B visa without changing to a tourist visa first?

Jun 21, 2018
7 years ago
Terry ********
ORIGINAL POSTER
Hi. I know when you move schools as a teacher you need to start again with a new Non B visa and work permit. However assuming all the paperwork from the new school is in place can you cancel the existing work permit and visa and go out of the country next day to get a new Non B. Or do you have to cancel and have a tourist visa first and then get the new Non b. MOE Thailand are saying to my school you need a tourist visa for them to issue the paperwork for a new Non B.?
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TLDR : Answer Summary
To transition from one Non-B visa and work permit to another without switching first to a tourist visa, the general consensus among community members is that it is possible under certain conditions. If you have an existing extension of stay, it must be canceled when you stop working. Some suggest you can apply for a new extension of stay from the new employer on the same day you cancel the previous one, provided you have the necessary documentation from both employers. However, obtaining a letter from the Ministry of Education often requires having a tourist visa instead, making it a bit complicated as some members suggest that exiting the country to obtain a new Non-B might be necessary. Ultimately, the process can vary depending on individual circumstances and the relationships with the current and new employers.
Robert *******
Cancel the WP and the Extension of Stay, you can do this in advance or apply on the day of cancellation for a new Extension of Stay. If he does not meet any requirements he will get the 7 days to leave the country, cost 1.900 Thb. Apply for Tourist visa at a Thai Embassy or Consulate, come back and restart the process for new job.
Terry ********
ORIGINAL POSTER
Hi ...further developments to this post. In order to get a Non B to be a teacher you need a letter from the Ministry of Education. The MOD are refusing to do a letter unless my new teacher has a tourist visa in the passport and not a Non B extension of stay. Therefore my question is this. Can we cancel the exisiting Non B extension of stay and workpermit and get a 30 day tourist visa at Chaeng Wattana or in any immigration on the same day, or will they give 7 days to leave country after cancel or can we not do this in the country?
@Tod ********
Thankyou I do understand your notes with regard to changing from 1 non B to another but i think that route will be too difficult for us. Now i am looking for the easiest way to go from Non B to Tourist to Non B hopefully only exiting the country for the new Non B.
Tod *********
nope. Your best bet is to follow Robert's advice below.
Eileentjie **************
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Zion *****************
My experience: I exited on a non-b to get the new non-b with the new school. NB - no extension of stay or work permit with first non-b
Tod *********
right IF you're on the original entry of the Non-B, you don't need to cancel it when you leave the country as it's a single entry visa and cancels itself when you stamp out. Then you can get a new visa from the thai consulate.
Tod *********
If you are on an extension of stay (NOT the original visa you got when you started work) AND you are leaving one company on good terms going to another one, you can get documentation from the company you are leaving stating you are stopping work on one date and get documentation from the company you are starting worth with on the same date. You take that documentation to the immigration office, cancel your extension of stay from one place and immediately apply for a new extension of stay from the other place.

It is RARE, but I have seen it done in person several times. The reason it is rare is most people are on bad terms with their employer when they leave a job..
Tod *********
@Terry *******
, good luck, report back and let us know how it goes. BUT I know for sure that one extension can be canceled and the next one can be applied for right after that. Usually they'll get a 30 day under consideration stamp and go back a month later to get the year extension for the new company inked in.
Terry ********
ORIGINAL POSTER
Ok. Yes this new teacher is on an extension of stay and good terms with her previous employer who is giving us time to get the paperwork together for the new Non B. However the final piece of paper we need is the letter from the MOD who seem to want to see a tourist visa stamp? We will challenge the MOD on this. As it doesn't seem right as you have indicated.
Robert *******
If you are on an Extension of Stay this Extension has to be cancelled the day you stop working, I guess the MOE does not want to provide papers for a new school while you still work for your old school.
Robert *******
If you are on the actual Non Immigrant B visa it does not make sense that you have to leave the country, apply for a tourist visa, come back to collect some copies to leave Thailand again to apply for the B visa again.
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