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Which visa is better for expats in Thailand: Non-Immigrant B or Non-Immigrant O (based on marriage)?

Seymore ********
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Have a company here in thailand and soon to apply for my work permit and change to either a Non-imm B visa or Non-0 visa based on marriage. Which is the better option and why?
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When considering whether to apply for a Non-Immigrant B visa or a Non-Immigrant O visa in Thailand, the Non-Immigrant B is often seen as the better option due to fewer hassles and the possibility of applying for an Extension of Stay based on work. A Non-Immigrant O visa, however, provides similar benefits in terms of extension as long as marriage and financial requirements are met. Requirements for each visa differ, such as minimum salary and paid-up capital for companies, making it essential to evaluate personal circumstances and company policies.
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Henrik ****
Henrik ****
It takes a company with 1 million THB paid up plus 4 thai people in the company per alien to apply for a work permit for an alien. If not married, it takes 2 million THB paid up. You must also have a minimum salary of 50,000 THB per month, and the work you do must be whitelisted. Non-O takes 40,000 THB per month or 400,000 at a bank account at most embassies. A non-O can be extended in Thailand. Without an extension, a non-O same non-B requires you to leave Thailand every 90 day.
Robert *******
Robert *******
And the Non B can also be extended at the Immigration Office in Thailand.
Dominic *****
Dominic *****
@Seymore *******
Do you have enough to meet the lump sum criteria for Non-O?
Dominic *****
Dominic *****
Because he says he has “plenty of cash in the uk and thai banks”. Unfortunately since you highlight that there is no lump sum option in London, that’s not a consideration anymore.
Robert *******
Robert *******
based on what? there is no lump sum for the Non Immigrant O visa in London: For accompanying a Thai spouse : A copy of marriage certificate, a copy of Thai passport/a copy of Thai ID of spouse, and (3 months bank statement showing monthly income of more than £1,500.)
Robert *******
Robert *******
Depends on the company. If all correctly done after your first Non Immigrant B visa, you can apply for an Extension of Stay based on working inside Thailand, if not it means every year a new visa and every 90 days border runs if you're the managing director otherwise every 90 day a new visa from a Thai Consulate. With the Non Immigrant O you can apply for the Extension of Stay as long as you married and meet the financial requirements.
Seymore ********
Seymore ********
OP
And i guess each visa can be changed and applied for at a future time should circumstances change and it was neccessary to do so.

If so then really not a major decison and seems best to just apply for the visa type that suits the individual and the one which they can meet the requirements easiest. For me that will be the non o if i can find a way around the salary issue by doing at a local im office that may be understanding of the prediciment
Robert *******
Robert *******
The non O visa is based on marriage and independent from the business, unless you use the income method made out of this business inside Thailand. The Non B is stable as long as your business is doing good, the Non O is stable as long as your marriage works out well. Both can go wrong.
Ron ******************
Ron ******************
@Robert ******
non imm b is granted if you are married to a Thai or not. The non imm o based on marriage is linked to your relationship to a Thai. Thus your visa dont only depend on your business making a success but also your marriage. Purely from a business sense the non imm b is beter and more stable option for a businessman, which the OP seems to be. As for the changes to the non imm o based on marruage I did say I dont know if its still going to happen. I just repeated what the IO said. As can be expected he did not go into details. Lets wait for this week as the scheduled date was the 22nd April 2562 for these changes.
Robert *******
Robert *******
Ron van den Heever And without knowing or telling us what these changes are and already telling not sure if these changes are implemented, how can you say the Non Immigrant B is more stable?
Ron ******************
Ron ******************
I had a chat with my IO last week, before BJ was moved amd he said that they want to bring in changes to the non imm o marriage visa. I domt know if it still will happen after the change but for me the non imm b is more stable and not relying on the longterm stability of a marriage.
Seymore ********
Seymore ********
OP
Ranong office were going to process my non b and i was just on an extension so i will ask them if they will do the same for the non o without the salary requirements. If so i think it then makes sense just to start it all on my return after the uk. Will update if i get any usefull info
Robert *******
Robert *******
If they can not do it, I would say go to Savannakhet, get the multiple entry Non Immigrant O visa based on marriage to a Thai National and you're good for 1 year. Time enough for your trip to London and arrange your WP before or after that trip.
Robert *******
Robert *******
You can visit the Immigration Office and ask if they can convert your Tourist Visa into the Non Immigrant O visa. Not all offices are allowed to do this.
Seymore ********
Seymore ********
OP
Can i just apply for a non o in ranong immigration office now or on reentry to thailand?
Seymore ********
Seymore ********
OP
Ranong
Robert *******
Robert *******
And where in Thailand are you?
Seymore ********
Seymore ********
OP
Now i was hoping the non o would be easier..maybe not
Seymore ********
Seymore ********
OP
I was on a tourist visa and now 30 day exemption
Seymore ********
Seymore ********
OP
I was going to do non b now but was advised just do in london
Robert *******
Robert *******
What type of Visa do you have now?
Seymore ********
Seymore ********
OP
So you can apply for a work permit before having a non O or B visa!!?

And theres really no way around showing a salary? even though i have massive investments in the company. So only by the complex proceedure of 1st getting a non b visa!

Im back in UK in less a 5 weeks so now seems like too much to squeeze in.
Robert *******
Robert *******
Or visit the Thai Consulate in Vientiane where you get the Single Entry Non Immigrant O visa based on being married to a Thai or Savannakhet where you get the 1 year Visa even without any financial requirements. And than apply for the Work Permit.
Robert *******
Robert *******
As I mentioned. You are the managing director of your company but wont be on the payroll until visa and work permit 1st completed. Apply for the work permit tomorrow, visit the Ministry of Labor in your area and get the hand out, copy all needed and apply. With documents form the Ministry of Labor you can go to apply for the Non Immigrant B visa and on return put yourself on the payroll. Than you can fly to London to apply for the Non O visa
Seymore ********
Seymore ********
OP
I re post

"My 1 conceen is I have plenty of cash in uk and thai banks but currently no monthly salary to show(which is a requirement)

Im the managing director of my company but wont be on the payroll until visa and work permit 1st completed. Any knowledge on this situation?"
Seymore ********
Seymore ********
OP
No im refering to the requirement of a salary to apply for the non o vosa in london
Robert *******
Robert *******
To apply for the work permit you only need to show what your salary would be, as long as you do not have the work permit you are not allowed to work and receive salary. For the Non Immigrant B visa you visit a Thai Consulate with several documents but you also not have to show your salary.
Seymore ********
Seymore ********
OP
My problem is not having a salary to show
Robert *******
Robert *******
Not sure what the new problem is, visa and WP could be arranged in 1 week.
Seymore ********
Seymore ********
OP
@Robert ******
sorry i edited the post as i was reading the o-a info. New question now posted
Robert *******
Robert *******
Yep, but you need to fly every year to London and making every 90 days border runs. an Extension of Stay maybe more documents to copy, application cost are 1.900 Thb. At the end a bit cheaper.
Seymore ********
Seymore ********
OP
Feels like although we have everything in place for the business visa, the O visa involves less paperwork. Am i on the right lines?

My 1 conceen is I have plenty of cash in uk and thai banks but currently no monthly salary to show(which is a requirement)

Im the managing director of my company but wont be on the payroll until visa and work permit 1st completed. Any knowledge on this situation? And many thanks
Robert *******
Robert *******
My thoughts, no difference to start and no difference for Extension of Stay, but as said you need to meet the requirements if based on working. And just out of many topics on this page, it seems that companies do not have the staff or tax and sso payments or paying the minimum salary for the foreigner. Which all part of the requirements.
Seymore ********
Seymore ********
OP
@Robert ******
company is all legit running smoothly and everything in order, so extension should be no issue. So then there is no real advantage of which visa type?..thoughts please
Daniel ************
Daniel ************
non b - less hazzle

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