What visa options are available for a 40-year-old Australian wanting to stay in Thailand with a Thai partner?

Nov 1, 2024
22 days ago
Lee ********
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I'd like to pick the brains of the intelligent ones in the group please.

I'm looking to get visa to stay in Thailand potentially retire.

I'm an Australian citizen 40yrs old so obviously I won't qualify for the retirement option.

I have a thai partner and was looking into the marriage visa option.

This is from a Thai visa agent:

"3 months Non immigrant O + 1 year marriage visa, the price starts from 95,000 THB"

I appreciate any help.

Thanks
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An Australian citizen, aged 40, is seeking advice on visa options for living in Thailand with a Thai partner, specifically regarding the marriage visa and associated costs. They have received information from a Thai visa agent about a "3 months Non-Immigrant O + 1 year marriage visa" costing 95,000 THB. Community members express concern over this high fee, suggest alternatives like the DTV visa, and emphasize the importance of marrying before applying for the marriage visa. They also encourage the individual to consider managing the visa application independently to save costs.
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Jessica *********
DTV
Tim *********
That's a huge fee. OK I gather it is bureaucratic and very detailed. But with a Thai wife to help you understand, you could do it yourself. Take your time. Get hold of the forms from your IO. Ask them a million questions about exactly what they need from you. If you get it a bit wrong at first, the worse that will happen is they'll ask you to do it again, or provide another document, or whatever. It's doable. Good luck
Tony ********
Unless the agent is organising and including some special wedding party in the price, stay well clear of them.
Bart **************
Do it yourself.
Ken ********
Go the dtv no brainier
Bob ********
Without knowing your partner or relationship with her, how long etc. I would utilise the 60day visa exempt and 30 day extension at least twice by which time you will have worked out all the shortcuts. I offer this after 52 years of marriage, where I have seen very successful relationships and many painful (and costly) breakups. There are so many customs and practices that can totally confound westerners, and you need to be aware off before you commit
Brook ********
95,000-

3,900=

91,100 THB

That is $2,682 USD in profit for $115 in costs. Not a bad margin.
Lee ********
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Brook *******
yeah soon as I saw their price i knew it was due to a broken calculator
Clare ******************
I would go for DTV.

You can write a letter or contract for yourself. Many have.

You might not be physically working but you receive an income.

Which country are you in at the moment?
Clare ******************
I believe paperwork is less strict if you go for a walk in appointment. Recommend Laos.
Andreas *********
Lee Parker . . you would be crazy to pay that price of 95.000.- THB for something you can easily do yourself. It would cost a fee for the 90-days Non-imm-O married to a Thai husband visa, plus the 1900.- THB for the one-year extension of the stay permit. As a female foreigner married to a Thai husband, You do NOT have to prove finances - it means, you don't need any money in a bank account or a certified income of so-and-so much. What you need for the E-visa application are documents proving your marriage being acknowledged in both your home country and in Thailand, that might imply you have the original documents legalized by your embassy in Thailand and possibly also by the Thai MfA. For a mere consultation on how to proceed, an agent might ask for 3000 to 6000 Baht but nothing else. I suggest you visit another agent and inquire, in Pattaya there are many of those who will take something like 15.000 to 35.000 THB for the package
Alex ********
Just do dtv and take cooking classes or something
Pete *******
After getting married your proposal would cost 3900baht by doing the application yourself at your local immigration office.
Steve **********
95,000 is INSANITY.

We did the first ones ourselves. Went to Laos for the 90 day to enter on and converted it. Wasn’t hard. But that depends on the office. We were in Ubon. Anywhere outside of BKK or Pattaya I would say do it yourself. The reason I say that is they make it exceedingly difficult in those locations. First renewal was BKK. Seven trips to CW to get it done.

To the point, 95,000 is huge money for a 1900 baht visa and a 1900 baht extension.

Apples and oranges but people that don’t even have the money and get fake bank letters only pay 25K (ish) for retirement extensions.
Lee ********
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Steve *********
this is what I thought. From
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baht seemed excessive
Kathleen *************************
Currently in TH under marriage visa.

Cost me only around 150usd for marriage visa (valid for 1 yr, multiple entry)
Andreas *********
@Kathleen ************************
absolutely astonishing fair price for the service, as the multi re-entry permit already costs 3800.- THB - almost 110.- USD and the fee for the 1-year extension is 1900.- THB . . . . . . are you telling us you get everything for free, or will the fees be added ?😄
Jan ******************
Crazy, but you’ll need to marry first to get this option. The fee is 2000 baht for the 90 Non O visa and 1900 baht for the year extension of stay. You’ll need 400K baht in your bank account to apply and 400K baht seasoned for two months for the one year extension of stay.
Lee ********
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Jan *****************
I'm not worried about the required money in account but I'm concerned as all the info that I've been given is that I need a marriage visa to open a bank account.
Jan ******************
@Lee *******
You’ll need a long term visa to open a bank account now, ore else it’s almost impossible. An agent will manage for you anyway if you have minimum 15 days left on your current stamp. (Fee from 3500 baht). I’ve helped several people with this. (But I’m not in any way related to any agents).
Matt *******
@Lee *******
have a marriage than let your Thai wife introduce you. Depending on immigration office they will not issue visa on the marriage date itself, generally marriage visa stands test of time, unless at time of marriage, your wife is verified pregnant. Do the visa yourself, not that difficult admin work the wife in future's assistance
Stuart *********
You used the word partner which suggests you’re not married yet. You’d need to do so before that option becomes available.

Alternatively look at the DTV visa and see if that would work for you (at least for the next couple of years or so).
Lee ********
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Stuart ********
the DTV sounds good however I'm retired. Would this still be an option even if not working as I have no employer or working rights.
Andreas *********
@Lee *******
. . you would be crazy to pay that price of 95.000.- THB for something you can easily do yourself. It would cost a fee for the 90-days Non-imm-O married to a Thai wife visa, plus the 1900.- THB for the one-year extension of the stay permit. What you need for the E-visa application are documents proving your marriage being acknowledged in both your home country and in Thailand, that might imply you have the original documents legalized by your embassy in Thailand and possibly also by the Thai MfA. For a mere consultation on how to proceed, an agent might ask for 3000 to 6000 Baht but nothing else. I suggest you visit another agent and inquire, in Pattaya there are many of those who will take something like 15.000 to 35.000 THB for the marriage package, and 12.000 THB for the Non-O visa and the 1-year Extension
Lee ********
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Andreas ********
ok great thanks for the info. I'll be in Pattaya on Sunday.

Do you know any agents off the top of your head in Pattaya? All good if not.
Andreas *********
@Lee *******
ah, my bad! You are a male foreigner who wants to get married to a Thai female. I confusedly thought you were a foreign female. So ignore my remarks about not needing the financial proof. I already changed the text accordingly. Once married, you will need the 400.000 THB in your Thai bank account for the "married visa" and the subsequent 1-year Extension of Stay
Lee ********
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Andreas ********
thanks. I've been informed by a few different branches that I need a marriage visa to open a bank account. But then I see i need to show proof of funds for visas. 🤷🏻‍♂️
Andreas *********
@Lee *******
check out T.F. Consulting Co. of
@Stefan *******
, or Tik Tok Visa Service, or MOT's . . . .
Lee ********
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Andreas ********
thanks so much
Stuart *********
@Lee *******
You can use the Soft Power options. Book a Muay Thai or cooking course to qualify
Lee ********
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Stuart ********
ok thanks. Thai language doesn't qualify for this? I know they have a separate ed visa for that.
Lee ********
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Stuart ********
no not married yet however looking into it. But surely pricing is better than than this agents response starting from
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baht
John ********
@Lee *******
Go down the DTV route, you can apply for the visa in Australia on the e-visa portal and all it'll cost you is the visa fee, which I believe, depending which country you apply for it in, it's anything between the equivalent of 10k & 11.5k thb.
John ********
Also because of your age, if you've got no underlying health issues you can get health insurance quite cheap, but do your research on it before committing to a policy.
Chris *******
@Lee *******
so this agent will be arranging bank account, fronting you the money and process the non-o and the 1yr extension.

It's not cheap to do it all.

If you have the 400k money it is:

2000b visa

1900b extension you may have to pay an agent 5k to get a bank account open to get the wheels turning.
Lee ********
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Chris ******
I've been told countless times I can't open a bank account unless I'm married.

My thai partner has been to multiple branches and they all say the same thing. But then I read that I need money in thai bank to qualify for relevant visas.

Am I missing something 😂
Chris *******
@Lee *******
yes they make it rough.

Use an agent and it's done quickly.

Otherwise you jump through hoops till you find a willing bank.
Lee ********
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Chris ******
ok thanks
Dennis ******
Seems expensive. Why not look into the DTV? Best thing since sliced bread.
Lee ********
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Dennis *****
but im retired and no longer working. I was under the impression dtv is for remote working
John ********
@Lee *******
You can apply for the DTV., with 500,000 THB equivalent in a bank account in any country. Applying for the DTV., through the Soft Power route, you need to book in either a Muay Thai or Thai language course. As far as I'm aware from other posts, there is no minimum time of enrollment on any of the Soft Power application procedures. You say your only forty, so if your into keeping fit Muay Thai would be a good way to go and even if your not, just doing the fitness part of Muay Thai will get you super fit in a month or two, depending on how many times a week you select to attend. No mandatory timeline for attendance, it's Upto each individual.
Tore *********
@Lee *******
If you got medical issues that needs treatment while living in Thailand DTV is an option. Its what I do.

Even cooking classes is an option.

If married to a Thai marriage visa, and no need for expensive agent.
Lien ******
@Tore ********
any medical treatment?
Tore *********
@Lien *****
I guess it depends on the embassy you apply. My DTV was based on a single initial appointment with neurosurgeon. But I am regularly seeing neurologist now.

I don’t know about dental for example.
Andi ***********
@Lee *******
not just for remote work. You can get it via a cultural activity such as cooking, Muay Thai or for medical treatment.
Graham ******
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