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What type of insurance is typically recommended for expats getting a retirement visa in Thailand?

Sonny **********
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What insurance do most people go with for the retirement Visa?
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The discussion revolves around the insurance requirements for expats applying for retirement visas in Thailand. Many users note that the non-O visa does not mandate insurance, allowing more flexibility in choosing a provider. However, the OA visa requires specific insurance policies from Thai-approved companies. Popular insurance options mentioned include Pacific Cross, AXA, and Cigna Global, with personal experiences highlighting varying satisfaction levels. Some members advocate for self-insurance or utilizing government health services to avoid high premiums, emphasizing the importance of assessing individual health needs and financial circumstances.
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Nick *******
Nick *******
Pacific Cross is really good.
Rich ************
Rich ************
What if I already have US insurance? Do I only need proof of insurance?
Hugh ***********
Hugh ***********
OA sux
Victor **********
Victor **********
Pacific Cross.
Jim *******
Jim *******
Me, no insurance in Thai. Over 26 years, never had one encounter with any Thai clinic.

Never had any minor ailment.

Those insurance compainies in Thai are robbers.

Had I had anything serious, 5 hours flight to Japan where every clinic is like Mayo clinic. 5 hours flight, 100 US$.

Nagoya University clinic has 6 Nobel Prize winners.
Chris *******
Chris *******
Jim Davis total crap!

If you have a hart attack or stroke like me, you can't fly anywhere because of air pressure,

I also had medical insurance and some hospitals won't accept it like bankok hospital.

It cost me £5000 up front before they would operate,it also took me 3 months to get it back with lots of hassle, so don't quote what you have no experience on...
Jim *******
Jim *******
Chris Banks

"Jim Davis total crap!

If you have a hart attack or stroke like me, you can't fly anywhere because of air pressure"

Once a year I go through systematic medical checkup, 22 tests, even drinking barium for intestinal scanner.

If there was anything serious, there would be an indication. Or even anything at all.

Certainly, lightening in Thai field can kill me.
Stephen *****************
Stephen *****************
Get a krungthai ultra bank account...comes with great insurance
Willy ********
Willy ********
Most people get an O-Visa where no insurance is required. I have a OA visa with a 5 million baht insurance with Pacific Cross. I recently changed my official residence back to Belgium and I have a Luxemburg travel/hospitalization insurance from CMCM. I travel a lot. As long as I am not outside Belgium longer than 3 months the CMCM and Belgium NHS will cover everything. CMCM is non profit and great but only accessible for Luxemburg and neighboring countries. Pacific cross seems very decent, but I haven't made any claims, since if I make a claim, I loose my 20% discount. This year I paid 55k baht, I am 63, no outpatient, 20k baht deductible, 20% discount for no claims in the last 3 years. Best thing about it, it's the only one that offers lifetime guaranteed even if you get over 100 years old.
Roy *******
Roy *******
following
Hathaway *************
Hathaway *************
I have accident insurance, 11yrs post stroke means ANYTHING that might result in hospitalisation isn't covered. So money in the bank and a empty credit card is my health insurance .
Stuart ********
Stuart ********
AXA
Marcel *********
Marcel *********
AXA
Mick *********
Mick *********
I use AIA. I also looked at AXA but didn’t like the cover offered. Only because of circumstances. It’s a personal choice. Some people live in Thailand without cover and use gov hospitals. That’s ok if you have the funds and nothing really serious happens.
Roger ********
Roger ********
Mostly? They don't
Derek ***********
Derek ***********
AxA
Stewart *********
Stewart *********
Whoever you get make sure they are registered with the OIC lot of crooks about you are better getting insurance before you go to Thailand
Mike *********
Mike *********
Try Allianz
Mel ********
Mel ********
I am with pacific cross. Needed an emergency operation, sorted almost immediately, then needed a further planned operation, sorted in about 4 days. Not a cheap insurance company but I am so glad I had good insurance.
Willy ********
Willy ********
Mel Clarke I find them very affordable if you opt out of outpatient and accept a 20k baht deductible. It's the only one who will keep insuring you if you live to be 100 years old or more. (I am 63 premium for the same product will be 10x what I pay now when I turn 95).
Mel ********
Mel ********
Willy Berger I opted out of outpatient last year, reduced my premium by 20k. I have 40 k deductible. Small price to pay considering the 2 operations cost well over 600k.
Rod *********
Rod *********
So on the retirement visa you need 800,000 baht in your bank account for three months I believe. Is this per person or for my wife and I as a couple? New to this page so any help or advice is greatly appreciated. Looking at living there in the near future.
Trevor *******
Trevor *******
NONE, on 12 month extensions for nearly forty years.

Guess my comeuppance is yet to come!!
Michael ********
Michael ********
I'm with AIA
Andries **********
Andries **********
There are a lot of insurance policies, but will they pay out if it really needed?
James ***********
James ***********
Andries Dijkstra don't count on it
Andries **********
Andries **********
James Carpenter as an insured person,you are a plaything of the insurer.
Ant ***********
Ant ***********
OA Visa - insurance required when organising the Visa

Non-O Visa - organise insurance when you arrive in Thailand
Lisa ******
Lisa ******
We went with AXA. It was very affordable and nice to have grandfathered into an insurance company for my husband. Once they accept you, you're guaranteed insurance til age 99. The non-oa has been a godsend and the better route imo.
Ian *****
Ian *****
@Lisa *****
They might guarantee that they will cover you till 99, but expect high renewal costs as you age!
Lisa ******
Lisa ******
Ian Tee The non-oa allows me and my daughter to be a dependent as well. It's great for us and our needs.
Lisa ******
Lisa ******
Ian Tee If we decide later on not to renew, we aren't forced to. We can always convert to Non-o and we'll have 12 months of deposits already. Not a big deal. We just want the option, just in case.
Timothy *******
Timothy *******
Ian Tee Exactly and read the fine print
Lisa ******
Lisa ******
I know a couple of incredible agents if you want to get a more comprehensive plan, but you can just to the website and they'll have plans you can buy and it'll give you the paperwork instantly.
Mia ********
Mia ********
@Lisa *****
Can you also pls advise me
Lisa ******
Lisa ******
@Mia *******
Sure! I replied to you!
Guy ************
Guy ************
@Lisa *****
please advise!
Lisa ******
Lisa ******
@Guy ***********
I'll send pm!
Russ **********
Russ **********
How do you self insure health
Willy ********
Willy ********
Russ Linnebur Easy. You need a minimal 3 million baht coverage for the OA visa. Put 3 million baht in the bank.
Roger **********
Roger **********
Russ Linnebur by having enough money to pay for treatment
Jan ************
Jan ************
Wrlife
Petrov ********
Petrov ********
Check your credit card may have insurance.
Jim *******
Jim *******
Petrov Petrov

"Check your credit card may have insurance."

That is nothing, it is for travel, extreme cases like 2 weeks no flights from London when that volcano errupted, Island. People had to remain in London, their hotel expense, VISA travel insurance. That happens once in a century.

Nothing to do with health and hospitals.
Petrov ********
Petrov ********
Jim Davis I have 90 days of travel insurance coverage from the start of my trip through my credit card. It covers emergency medical treatment while travelling, lost luggage, and so on. It’s a good option; otherwise, travel insurance can be quite expensive, depending on your age and any pre-existing medical conditions.
Dave **********
Dave **********
Self-insured
Phil ******
Phil ******
Non o Sonny Peterson then if you need insurance you can choose
Bill *********
Bill *********
Cigna Global
PeacefulSe**********
PeacefulSe**********
None
Graham *****
Graham *****
I have just returned from Thailand, back to Australia.

I was looking into retirement there, but i decided against it.

I can be in Thailand for up to 6 months in every calender year, same for a lot of Asian countries, so i am going to spend 2 or 3 months in numerous countries instead of just 1.
Michael *********
Michael *********
Graham Day I love everything about this country, no reason to ever leave. Dont feel like packing & moving all the time. I own a condo on Mae Phim beach in Ban Phe, built a house on 2 acres my wife's grandfather gave her in rural Khon Kaen. I have the best of both worlds, why leave? With regards to insurance, having been an insurance executive the policies in Thailand suck. They are virtually worthless. I built an emergency medical fund before I came. Medical procedures are
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th of the price in the US. It helps a lot if you don't come here fat, out of shape & hanging in bars.
NongTong *****
NongTong *****
until the day you can no longer comfortably moving around, then your plan suddenly turn sour.
Antony ********
Antony ********
Graham Day bingo, don't lose residency and medicare is still there. Unfortunately I don't have a residence to go back to and its cheaper to pay for health cover, than to fly back and rent etc.
Steve *******
Steve *******
Graham Day same
Vlad **********
Vlad **********
Sensible choice, it’s all about finding your comfort zone
Susie *********
Susie *********
Graham Day were thinking of doing 3-6 months during Aussie winter. What visa woul be for doing this? Were both 68yrs old.🥴🤣
Philip **********
Philip **********
Susie Dolling it sounds good on paper but have you been in Thailand during the winter months. End of August and now the weather is getting better. March through to July the hottest months.
Dennis **********
Dennis **********
Susie Dolling look at cambodia , there visa requirements are a lot less strict thailand
Graham *****
Graham *****
Susie Dolling you can stay for 90 days, have a trip to a neighbouring country for a few days, or just one day, then do another 90 days, that's the only visa I get, the 60 days on arrival, with a 30 day extension.

Unless that visa rule changes this year like they keep talking about.
Rene ********
Rene ********
Graham Day " could"
Doug ********
Doug ********
Graham Day ..you may find that is getting more difficult.

Many people doing that now get told when they return after a few days away that they can only have 7 days when they come back in to thailand.
Rick ****
Rick ****
Personally, I think that 800k is better invested in my home country. It can more than pay for the insurance. That is why I planned on the OA when I make the plunge soon.
Marty *********
Marty *********
Rick Ny You can get 1-2 yrs on your OA. Then you must return to your home country to apply for a new OA. If you choose to extend your OA in Thailand then you will need the 800k deposit for the extension.
Rick ****
Rick ****
Marty Pollard I believe I can continue using the 65k method
Nongnuch ********
Nongnuch ********
Rick Ny then you need to return to your home country every two years and re-apply for the next Non-O/A visa, if you want to avoid putting 800,000 THB into a Thai bank account and have a health insurance with an private Thai insurer from the tgia-list.
Rick ****
Rick ****
Nongnuch Kamdee You don’t need to leave to file an extension but it doesn’t matter because I would regularly go back to visit family anyway.

The insurance doesn’t specifically need to be Thai. It just needs to meet certain minimums. From my view, the premiums are very affordable from 50-60. I will probably switch when the premiums start to not make sense.
Bob **********
Bob **********
Rick Ny unless your earning 10-20% it won’t pay for your insurance just bite the bullet and drop the 800K in your Thai bank for 5 months then it can drop to 400k for 7 months then back up for two months you’ll thank me later also immediately start your 65k a month international transfers so you’ll have 12 consecutive months and switch to the monthly on your second extension and go make millions off your $28k ,you’ll need the monthly transfers even when you extend your OA plus you’ll be paying for insurance that won’t do you much good
Stuart ***********
Stuart ***********
Rick Ny that makes perfect sense, although I see a lot of people seem to want to switch to the non-O later. Did you know if you use the 800,000 method for the first extension and transfer 65,000 per month for the year of the extension, you can switch to the monthly method for the second and subsequent years extensions. This means you can withdraw the 800,000 and choose your preferred insurer instead of being restricted.
Rick ****
Rick ****
Stuart Chiverton Yeah. The thing is that as you get older your health insurance premiums skyrocket and they won’t even insure you at one point. Better to plan for eventually self insurance.

Yes you can. Just make sure you transferred in at least 65k (better 70k to factor in exchange rates) for 12 consecutive months. Make sure it is marked “from an international account.”
John ********
John ********
Rick Ny how so ?
Chris *********
Chris *********
AxA
Loic *******
Loic *******
We use Pacific Cross
Willy ********
Willy ********
Loic Brand Don't you work there ? I endorsed you in a comment as well.
Marty *********
Marty *********
I agree. Go with the non O. It will give you more options as you shop insurance separately from the visa. However, I came on an OA in 2017 and am now on a LTR, both require insurance. I bought Pacific Cross in 2018.
Ron *****
Ron *****
Any health insurance will require medical evaluation. Health Insurance policy usability depends on the verdict of the underwriter investigation of your medical history. The exclusion list of non-coverage for many will shock them, especially when the premium is so high and only half of you is covered! The insurance companies don’t want to lose money. Many older expats go the ‘self-insured’ path when they see what their true coverage is and cancel it.

Get Non-O Visa in order to be self insured.
Mark *********
Mark *********
Marty Pollard are you still using Pacific Cross .

What sort of annual premium.

It's hard choosing.
Marty *********
Marty *********
Mark Duhring The price will depend on your age, the amount of coverage, and your deductible. Pre-existing conditions will be excluded. They have a good website to estimate your costs.
Sonny **********
Sonny **********
OP
Marty Pollard is it better to come on a tourist visa and get an agency there to help get retirement visa? This stuff is confusing?
Jules ********
Jules ********
Sonny Peterson we're going to visit immigration office next time we visit and ask these kinds of questions. Id happily pay a professional who works for immigration to assist and cover all bases
Octo *******
Octo *******
“Very expensive”? I’d say that’s subjective. Time and hassle have a value - varies with the individual.
Jeffrey **********
Jeffrey **********
Jules Donkin : "a professional who works for immigration" - an Immigration Officer - does not "assist" or provide "guidance". That's not their job. Their job is to process and either approve or deny. Paying them is bribery, which may not be helpful these days. What you want is a reputable agent. Be aware that not all agents are reputable, so be careful with your choice of agent.
Jules ********
Jules ********
John Mozley we'll get the 90 day visa online before coming for holiday but will then visit immigration office to ask for guidance re all we'd need to do, should be commit to retire in thailand. Its such a huge decision to be weighing up and speaking with someone from there, feels like it'll give my mind some respite and calm direction. As opposed to currently feeling head scrambled 🙃😜
John ********
John ********
Jules Donkin You will be paying an agent who will get your visa for you’ not someone who works for immigration. If you arrive on a tourist visa it will be very expensive to do it that way.
Brandon ************
Brandon ************
@Sonny *********
it's better to get the non-O visa from your Thai embassy. The requirements are very simple.
Marty *********
Marty *********
Sonny Peterson I’ve never used and agent so I can’t give advice on that. Sorry.
Sonny **********
Sonny **********
OP
Marty Pollard Ty
Brandon ************
Brandon ************
Most people get the non-O visa that doesn't require insurance.
Jim *******
Jim *******
@Brandon ***********
Who does need it?
Brandon ************
Brandon ************
@Jim ******
non-OA visa holders
Mick *********
Mick *********
@Brandon ***********
maybe not required definitely recommended.
Brandon ************
Brandon ************
@Mick ********
the point is that you can make your own decision and choose your own insurance with a non-O visa. With a non-OA it's required, and it must be an approved policy from an approved list of Thai insurance companies. Why make your life that difficult?
Rob *********
Rob *********
@Brandon ***********
it might not be a visa requirement, but what happens should you need hospital treatment
Brandon ************
Brandon ************
@Rob ********
You choose your own insurance which is not an option with non-OA, with that you HAVE to choose from the specific policies from a select list of Thai insurance companies. Why limit yourself like that? Plus that's another requirement and more paperwork for your annual extension. Or just pay cash.
Brandon ************
Brandon ************
@Rob ********
But if you get a non-OA visa you don't get that choice. You have to choose from the list of approved policies for your visa. So a non-O is much better.
Rob *********
Rob *********
@Brandon ***********
I do go there, I do arrange my own health cover. Has commonsense gone out of the window?
Pierre *********
Pierre *********
I understand; i have non-immigrant O too.

Ingvar replied, thank you.

I have more 70 and insurance are expensive but i think it's better to have; it's a personal choice.

With Pacific Cross
Pierre *********
Pierre *********
@Brandon ***********
what these peoples do if accident, hospital, etc?
Kevin ******
Kevin ******
Pierre Rondeau they most likely have their own coverage from a provider of their choosing, or self-fund.
Michael ********
Michael ********
Pierre Rondeau They use Thai government hospitals that are very very cost effective, and clinics and pharmacies.
Jo **********
Jo **********
Pierre Rondeau I have cash 💰
Brandon ************
Brandon ************
@Pierre ********
they get insurance. But with the non-O you have the choice to get any insurance you want. With a non-OA you're required to get specific policies from a specific list of Thai companies. Why restrict yourself like that, and add even more paperwork to your annual extensions?
Rini *********
Rini *********
Jo Clemente maar dan mag je toch maar 8 maanden in het buitenland zijn? Dat deeld mijn verzekering mede.
Jo **********
Jo **********
@Brandon ***********
what a great comment. For example with the LTR I use my Dutch insurance
Ingvar *******
Ingvar *******
Pierre Rondeau the most of us have learned about the insurance system and what it cover when you are aging. How the yearly fees rising. So we use the government hospitals and save our money in a bank account to that day we need it.
Arvid ***********
Arvid ***********
Ingvar Bergh thats correct, I do the same, use the government hospitals for easy issues or my savings in bank or take a flight back home for bigger problems, it's to expensive and risky to pay for insurance in Thailand.

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