What is the required timeframe for staying out of Thailand before returning on a tourist visa after multiple border runs?

Nov 24, 2023
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John ********
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I have a friend from the Philippines here in Thailand on a tourist visa. She just did her 2nd land border run to get another 30 day tourist visa. Then of course she can get another and final 30 day extension at the immigration office.

I know that she will need to leave Thailand by air next. My question is, is there a set timeframe on how long she must be out of the country before returning by air and starting another round of extensions by land?

Thank you
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TLDR : Answer Summary
There is no specific mandated timeframe for how long your friend must stay out of Thailand before returning on a tourist visa after border runs. However, immigration officers can be skeptical of repeated entries and may deny future entries if they suspect intent to reside without a long-term visa. Recommendations include preparing to show evidence of sufficient funds, accommodation, and return flight plans when re-entering Thailand. Alternatives like the METV (Multiple Entry Tourist Visa) or other long-term visa options are advised for those looking to stay longer.
Bob **********
There is no set time but it’s up to the IO she comes in front of to be questioned she should have the 3 proofs 20k or equivalent in any cash a flight out in 30 days and accommodation it would probably be better to apply for a tourist visa while in another country
Declan **********
Land border bounce resets 1st Jan, so she can bounce twice more by land but if staying long term should really look into something more permanent such as METV, Elite Visa, getting a job etc etc.
Daniele ***********
From experience they make problems if spend in Thailand more than 6 months in 1 year. Prepare 20k baht cash to show, proof of accomodation and exit flight 30 days from entry
Todd *********
@Daniele **********
from experience?? What kind of problem was made. There is generally no problem with more than 6 months
John ********
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@Daniele **********
She had all that the first time (20k baht cash to show, proof of accommodation and exit flight 30 days from entry) and they didn't ask for any of it. I get it... you have to do it just in case. And you're right, there's potentially many issues staying long term doing border runs, whether by land or air. Sad thing is, like most things in Thailand, there's no hard and fast rules. It's up to the discretion of the officer. Thankfully I'm on a non-o, so I don't have to worry about that. Just trying to help her is all. Thanks
Daniele ***********
@John *******
or wait January and get 2 more almost guaranteed land entries visa exempt
Daniele ***********
@John *******
they never ask the first time, only after repeated entries, they still can deny entry if they want but having all that gives her the best chances to get in. If she get denied entry can always try again, maybe get a tourist visa
Roberto *********
Why doesn't she just get a METV? All this fluffing around with 30-dayers just draws attention to a person's intent to remain in the country. Do it above board and get almost nine months from it
John ********
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@Roberto ********
This is the first time I've heard about an METV. I did a quick google search and found that a person can stay in Thailand for a maximum period of 60 days each time, during an entry period of 6 months. Max 60 day per 6 months. You can get 120 days coming in on a tourist visa and doing border runs. Why would an METV be better if the person wants to get the most time available on a tourist visa? Thanks for your reply.
Roberto *********
@John *******
METV gets 60 days on each entry which can be extended a further 30 days at an immigration office. That's 90 days on each entry. If the first entry is at the commencement of the visa, and the final entry in the last day of the visa, this gives 90 days x 3 = 270 days. Won't quite work at exactly 270 as you'll not be entering on the date of issue, but the sooner the first entry after issue the longer the overall stay in the country. Requires two border bounces, but no requirement to stay out of the country longer than five minutes
John ********
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@Roberto ********
I'm going to look into that. Thanks for the info πŸ‘πŸ‘
Brandon ************
There's no minimum amount of time. But the immigration officers aren't stupid, they can clearly tell when someone is trying to live in Thailand without a long term visa. Eventually they will deny entry for not being a tourist but abusing tourist entries to Thailand.
John ********
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@Brandon ***********
I get that, but she's not trying to "live" in Thailand without a long term visa. She is truly spending time and money in Thailand touring and enjoying the country. With emphasis on spending money here.

I guess the answer to my question then is "no, no regulations specifying the length of time a person must be out of the country by air before returning again."

I've also witnessed first hand how tourists from some countries, SE Asian countries particularly, receive preferential treatment from Thai immigration. The Philippines is one of those countries. That is again nothing etched in stone, but it happens nonetheless.

Thanks for your reply.
Kool *******
@John *******
understand that Thai immigration profiles and stereotypes people. Leaving Thailand, and immediately returning multiple times is not the pattern of a tourist, no matter how much money they are spending in Thailand. A normal tourist would spend time in the bordering countries, touring them too. She is not doing that, and shows a pattern of simply trying to stay long term in Thailand on tourist entries. Immigration has the right to refuse entry to anyone, and doesn't really need a written reason. Understand that, whether you think it is right, or wrong.
John ********
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@Kool ******
I understand that. I've traveled all over the world and been in and out of countries many times with various immigration statuses. For her, this is her first time to fly out, and she will probably stay in the Philippines for 2-4 weeks. Based on that, I don't think immigration will refuse her entry, at the immigration counter in Suvarnabhumi Airport, when there's a long line waiting, and she's only been out by air once and flew back in. All I was asking is, "is there a set timeframe on how long she must be out of the country before returning by air and starting another round of extensions by land?"
Brandon ************
@John *******
"only flew out by air once" isn't anything that matters. All of her entries regardless of how she entered and her total time in Thailand are the 2 important things.
John ********
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@Brandon ***********
Brandon, I'm not trying to debate with you about it... I get that 100%. "All of her entries......and her total time in Thailand are the 2 important things." Where in the code of regulations for Thai immigration does it say that? Or, is it left to the discretion of the immigration officer, which is probably the case, like many things in Thailand, the Philippines, and other SE Asian countries. It's probably a gray area that left to interpretation by the individual officer. I think that if a 25 year old Filipina is trying to return again and standing at the airport immigration desk, compared to a 60 year old male from the USA, the young Asian will get preferential treatment. I know that's also not etched in stone, but I strongly believe that will happen. And you and I can only set here and 'assume' what will happen, because there's nothing written into the regulations that addresses this situation. The Thai government doesn't want to piss off China, India, the Philippines and other Asiatic partners by refusing reentry after a single flight out and back. But it would not be such an issue refusing a foreigner from north America. It's just politics.
Kool *******
@John *******
you seem to think Thai immigration will ignore her exiting, and re-entering by land borders twice, flying out, and back, with the intention of doing the same thing again. Also, there is no preferential treatment like you imagine. It is just the opposite. If she is carrying a backpack she will be put through more scrutiny than a 60 year old man, or woman, with a suitcase. That is the truth, whether there is anything written, or not. This sounds more like it is your GF, trying to stay here full time as a tourist, for your benefit.
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