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What is the best visa option for an American expat wanting to stay in Chiang Mai for most of 2020?

Loretta *******
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I'm wanting to return to Chiang Mai in December 2019...my son is a teacher there...I'm 62 .... American...I'm in the USA until December...what is my best bet..(Visa)..to remain in Chiang Mai and traveling in and out and also staying... put... for a few months at a time for most if not all of 2020...

Things are changing rapidly and I'm confused!Since may of 2017...I have 6 tourist visa I had gotten upon arrival at the airport...I will be in the US for almost 6 months before my return to Chiang Mai
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An American expat, aged 62, is seeking advice on the best visa for staying in Chiang Mai for most of 2020 after being in the USA for almost 6 months. Community members suggest obtaining a year-long, multi-entry Non-Immigrant Type O-A visa before returning to Thailand, as it allows for long stays and multiple entries. This option is preferable compared to other visas, like the METV or tourist visas, due to its extended validity and ease of use. Comments emphasize the importance of understanding visa requirements and the challenges of frequent travel with other visa types.
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Tod *********
Tod *********
and I think
@Loretta ******
has enough options to either totally confuse her or to let her figure out what way to go to further her stay here..

Good Luck (y)
Loretta *******
Loretta *******
OP
I think I like the METV
Kevin ***********
Kevin ***********
Best of luck 👍.
Loretta *******
Loretta *******
OP
Corresponding LA dates and leaving for Chiang Mai may need to be the next step..and getting paperwork together... have to start now as the federal government is involved in retirement here😉
Loretta *******
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@Kevin **********
thank you...I was wondering about that
Tod *********
Tod *********
@Ke***
actually that is a little incorrect,

it's NOT technically good for 9 months, a 6 month METV is ONLY valid for 6 months from the date it's issued, that's why it has that catchy name :P

BUT you can indeed get almost 9 months of stay out of it.

get the visa as close to when you enter thailand as you can

-enter get 60 days,

-when that runs out exit/re-enter get 60 more days

-when that runs out exit/re-enter get 60 more days

-just before the VISA expires exit/re-enter get 60 more days <- which takes you to 8 months and then get a 30 day extension on that last entry taking you to 9 months :)
Kevin ***********
Kevin ***********
@Loretta ******
It's technically good for 9 months also if you exit and enter just before it expires. Just make sure you don't get it until right before you go to Thailand as the visa starts from the day you get it from the consulate and not from when you enter.
Loretta *******
Loretta *******
OP
Thank you Todd!
Tod *********
Tod *********
you can only get it from a thai consulate in your country BEFORE you come here, There are no thai consulates i S/E Asia that sell it.

AND

It's the same cost (200USD) as the year-long, mulit-entry Non-O-A visa people are telling you to get. So you can either get a visa that's good for 6 months and stamps you in for 60 days each time OR you can get a visa that's good for a year and stamps you in for a whole year each time.

It comes down to whether you can meet the requirements BUT hands down if you can meet the O-A requirements it is the visa you should have because it's almost 2 years of trouble free time in thailand ...
Tod *********
Tod *********
You could also get a 6 month METV <- multi-entry tourist visa from the thai consulate in the US before you wash up here and that would let you enter/exit an unlimited number of times during the 6 months visa visa is valid for and get you stamped in for 60 days each time.
Loretta *******
Loretta *******
OP
I could get an ED visa to learn Thai ..I have a few people I know in that field
Loretta *******
Loretta *******
OP
Gotcha
Tod *********
Tod *********
and you will be faced with getting a 90 day single entry ED visa which stamps you in for only 90 days, then going to the immigration office every 90 days to get a 90 day extension of stay, AND if you leave and don't study and miss the minimum hours required for your next extension you lose the visa. And if you need to leave the country during one of those 90 day extensions you'd need a re-entry permit AND have to come back during that 90 days or you'd lose everything and start all over.
Brian ********
Brian ********
You are certainly on the the right Facebook page these people know what to do 👌
Beverly **********
Beverly **********
I am on an O-A Multiple Entry visa. Sent off for it in the mail to Washington, D.C. Tracking number and everything, just to be safe.

Got it back two weeks later. Bingo.
Beverly **********
Beverly **********
Bryan Graham I don't know that you can do that. The passport and visa will get mailed to a U.S. address and the fingerprint clearance for FBI background also is done from specific locations in the states.
Beverly **********
Beverly **********
Bryan Graham I did the FBI background clearance. It was easy...and super fast.

I had to go to a specific place that did electronic fingerprints. Filled out a form, rolled the prints.

This was at 1 pm on a Monday at a place about 45 minutes from my home in Phoenix, Arizona. By the time I pulled into my driveway, no joke, there was a notification on my email that the FBI had already APPROVED and it was being mailed to me that DAY!!!

By Friday at noon, the clearance paper was in my mailbox.
Loretta *******
Loretta *******
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@Beverly *********
I'm thinking about the METV
Loretta *******
Loretta *******
OP
Yes that to
Tod *********
Tod *********
Bryan Graham each state has their own requirement for the police back ground check "Google is your friend" :P
Loretta *******
Loretta *******
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@Beverly *********
sounds like a plan....do you remember the cost?
Beverly **********
Beverly **********
@Loretta ******
EXACTLY! That was recommended to me...for precisely this same reason. Do it now, or as soon as possible...then if there is a glitch or other issue, you have plenty of time to fix it and then go directly to LA in person.

I was worried about mailing my passport off. Never done that before and that thing is precious, right? But I paid extra for the tracking and wow, talk about fast turnaround.
Loretta *******
Loretta *******
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@Beverly *********
I like your idea....could I send it to say like DC...and if it was rejected send it to or go to LA in person...?
Bobby ********
Bobby ********
I'll add my vote to the O-A. It's far and away the best visa. Finally something worth getting old for!
Tod *********
Tod *********
Here is an example of the requirements for a year-long, multi-entry Non-Immigrant Type O-A (Long Stay) visa from the thai consulate in Los Angeles;

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Loretta *******
Loretta *******
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@Karen **********
I'm thinking the METV ..I like traveling to much!..

Im thinking Vietnam

on the ocean during burning season

3 months back in the USA....im thinking the METV is the right visa ...Iam concerned about my 5-6 stamps into Thailand already.....

.miss your laughter
Karen ***********
Karen ***********
@Loretta ******
hey you! I have the non-IMM O-A ME based on long stay. Got it in La before I moved to Thailand (by mail) all because the brilliant folks of this group. PM me if you’d like -but listen carefully to what Tod says. His words is golden! 😀
Loretta *******
Loretta *******
OP
Thank you...
Tod *********
Tod *********
meaning you show all banked money 800K baht OR the equivalent, you show a statement from some organization that shows you get 65K baht or the equivalent every month OR you use a combination of banked money and a statement to show you get a total of 800K baht a year.
Tod *********
Tod *********
@Loretta ******
this is the operative word in that sentence
Loretta *******
Loretta *******
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Bank statement or evidence of adequate finance showing a deposit of the amount equal to and not less

than 800,000 Baht or an income certificate (an original copy) with a monthly income of not less than

65,000 Baht, or a deposit account plus a monthly income totaling not less than 800,000 Baht In the case

of submitting a bank statement, a letter of guarantee from the bank (an original copy) is required
Loretta *******
Loretta *******
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@Tod ********
is this a combined or ....either or
James ********
James ********
Yes...the O-A visa is BEST!
Glen *********
Glen *********
Things are harder now - tourist visas, Visa Exempt, Visa On Arrival etc and ED Visas are no longer viable options for regular travel or lengthy stays in Thailand.

Your only viable options are as Tod suggested, otherwise you risk denial of entry based on history of previous stays.
Ken ***********
Ken ***********
@Siggi *******
first of all, you can disagree with someone without being so rude...it would be logical that a 62 year olď who has a son working Thailand would not have issues BUT Thailand is not logical...the prevailing opinion is to get an OA visa before she arrives and that is her best option.
Siggi ********
Siggi ********
@Glen ********
Don't write bullshit, she is 62 years old, her son is an official teacher in Thailand with work permit, she will never get denied at entry like nobody in this age, you can travel regular to Thailand if you have a reason, even every week, you never get denied. Don't scare people when you not have personal experience and proved evidence about whatever you posting
Cathy *******
Cathy *******
I second Tod’s recommendation of O-A
Tod *********
Tod *********
Just so you're clear you have NEVER EVER gotten a tourist visa on arrival from the airports when flying in here. IF you showed up without having bought a tourist visa from a thai consulate before you winged your way here you were stamped in for 30 days for free on what's called a 30 day visa exempt entry stamp.
Tod *********
Tod *********
@Loretta ******
not a problem I just wanted you to know what you were getting because when it comes to visas and extensions terminology will run you off the rails really fast.

I meant no disrespect at all
Loretta *******
Loretta *******
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@Tod ********
I apologize..I did not know the correct verbage
Tod *********
Tod *********
Your best option is to get a year-long, multi-entry Non-Immigrant Type O-A (Long Stay) visa from a thai consulate in the US BEFORE you wing your way here.

There are four consulates that issue that type of visa in the US; Chicago, Los Angeles, New York and Washington DC. Go to the website of the consulate you pick and read the requirements.
Ellen ****************
Ellen ****************
@Tod ********
a 90 day single entry.
Tod *********
Tod *********
@Ellen ***************
what was the reason you got the Non-O visa? Was it a 90 day single entry or a year-long, multi-entry?
Ellen ****************
Ellen ****************
We got our 90 day O visas in Boston last December.

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