What are the pros and cons of extending a DTV Visa versus leaving the country when reaching the 180-day mark?

Jan 12, 2025
6 days ago
Myke ************
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So I got my DTV Visa in December 2024.

Which one is better to do at the 180-day mark?

Extend it for another 180 days or leave the country and come back?

What are the pros and cons of both?
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TLDR : Answer Summary
The discussion revolves around whether to extend the DTV Visa for another 180 days or to leave Thailand and re-enter for a new 180-day entry stamp. Many users suggest that leaving the country and coming back is generally more straightforward and less likely to encounter complications compared to obtaining an extension, which may require re-submitting documents like bank statements or proof of enrollment in courses. Several comments express uncertainty regarding the current extension process and recommend taking a short trip to avoid potential hassles. There is a consensus that leaving the country is the preferred option at this time.
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Andrew ********
Leave the country 100%
Tod *********
Just bounce out and back to get a new 180 day entry stamp.

At this time <- meaning right NOW, not one of the officers at most of the immigration offices have the slightest idea what the requirements will be for getting the ONE 180 day extension you're allowed to get per entry.

- Will you have to show the 500K again?

no one knows

- Will you have to show you're still enrolled in what ever it was you used to get the visa?

no one knows

- Will you have to re-enroll in what ever it was if the course was too short to show you're still NEEDING the visa?

no one knows

- Will you need a new letter from the doc/hospital saying you're still undergoing medical treatment?

No one knows
Alistair **********
Leave and enjoy SE Asia for a trip 😁
Biff *******
Depending on which immigration office you go to (it must be the one you register a TM30 at) you can expect a variety of experiences ranging from; No, just leave and come back. Sit down for nine hours we'll call you to show 63 copies of every piece of evidence you originally submitted but we might reject the whole thing if your 500k is still in your home country's bank. Please have a seat and we'll deal with you in an hour (still show all your documents but quicker). You need to transfer your money to a Thai bank account (that you will struggle to get) come back when you have.

If you bounce out and come back you can expect; a 180 day stamp and no questions, a 180 day stamp and a few questions.

It's all a bit up in the air at the moment though. I think those questioned on entry had something on their immigration record that piqued the IO's interest so if you applied, stayed where you were till you got the visa, weren't pretending to be a student whilst working remotely in Thailand for a year previously, you'll just get a stamp and no questions.

Out of the two options, I think the bounce out/in looks favourite at the moment.
Barry ******
Its basically just a longer multi entry tourist visa.
Christopher ********
It’s not a 5 year straight visa for a reason. They want you to leave.
Greg ********
The consensus is to fly in and fly out. Extensions in country have just started. Wait and see how it pans out. Exit and return
Will ************
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in favour of leave and return . Even if you extend after the extension expires it MUST be leave.
Cameron *********
@Will ***********
Surely not if obtained via soft power though? Although I am still a little confused by the
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day stuff admittedly 😂
Will ************
@Cameron ********
you get 180 on entry , to extend you provide ALL your documents originally submitted with timestamped updates. Leave and return its no problem. Even after your extension it’s compulsory leave and return. That’s what you have.
Steve ********
@Cameron ********
What 90 day thing?
Cameron *********
@Steve *******
90d reporting?
Greg ********
@Cameron ********
You are confusing 90 day reporting with an extension of the 180 day entry. Completely different
Cameron *********
@Greg *******
"My current understanding is:

- 180 days per arrival in

- report (first time in person) after 85-90 days

- 90 days after this reporting, fly out for a few days and come back in to get a new 180

- repeat

*and you also have a single one-use extension during the 5 years, preventing need to fly out on one occasion, but will need to resubmit all paperwork etc. All others will need a flight out." ?
Jared *********
@Cameron ********
mostly true but it's NOT only one extension during the 5 years. It's one extension per entry.
Greg ********
@Cameron ********
Almost there lol. First 2 points correct. Number 3 not. The extension is per entry not one time in 5 years.
Cameron *********
@Greg *******
Thanks a lot, but I'm unsure if you're saying point 3 *and* the last part re extending is incorrect, or just the latter is incorrect.

"90 days after this reporting, fly out for a few days and come back in to get a new 180"

This is number 3? This is incorrect?

Or just the last part ("have a single one-use extension during the 5 years") is incorrect?
Greg ********
@Cameron ********
Just last part. Yes the part about single use extension one time in 5 years is NOT correct. It is one extension per entry.
Cameron *********
@Greg *******
Thanks a lot Greg, appreciated. Please ignore the "Top contributor" 😂

So:

- 180d per arrival

- if staying for >89 consecutive days, need to report. If <89, can bounce out and back in and avoid 90d reporting all together (for the full 5 year?)

- *if* one does bounce out and in, this will also naturally generate a new 180?
Steve ********
@Cameron ********
That's easy. Any time you're in Thailand for 90 consecutive days you report your address to Immigration. You can do this in person, online or by mail. Very simple process
Cameron *********
@Steve *******
Yeah, first 90 day report needs to be in person though I believe?

My current understanding is:

- 180 days per arrival in

- report (first time in person) after 85-90 days

- 90 days after this reporting, fly out for a few days and come back in to get a new 180

- repeat

*and you also have a single one-use extension during the 5 years, preventing need to fly out on one occasion. All others will need a flight out.
Steve ********
@Cameron ********
First 90-day report can be mailed in. You can leave at any time during the 180 day stamp (leaving is nothing to do with 90-day reporting). Each time you re-enter you get a fresh 180 days. So you can leave after, for example, 80 days, so no 90-day report required, step over a border, step back and get a new 180 day stamp
Cameron *********
@Steve *******
Ah, didn't know the mailing. Thought it was in-person only for first time. Thank you - although not sure I'd trust the mail in.

Also didn't realise you can avoid 90d reporting if just bouncing out/in: Thought it was cumulative, not consecutive. I just assumed they'd have a system in place to prevent that.
Steve ********
@Cameron ********
Why would they want to prevent 90-day reporting? It doesn't matter to them if you leave before 90 days. I will be switching from non-O to DTV later this year, and as I have 3-4 international trips every year, I won't be doing any 90-day reports. Although I live in Thailand I haven't done a 90-dayer since the covid era such are my travel schedules. 90-day reports by mail you use EMS tracking. It's 100% reliable
Cameron *********
@Steve *******
Not sure, it wasn't some deep theory I'd thought about. Just assumed from the odd comments here and there that there'd be something they'd not like about it for whatever reason.

That's interesting, good to know. And each time you do this on your eventual DTV you'll also getting a new 180 stamp I assume?
Steve ********
@Cameron ********
Each entry to Thailand gets 180 days for the duration of the visa
Greg ********
@Cameron ********
You are overthinking this. You will be fine. Stop making the simple complex. Good luck but any questions fire away
Cameron *********
@Greg *******
Correct, I probably am, nature of my job that I used to have.

It’s not letting me navigate to the comment of mine that you replied to - which part did/am I overthinking?

- If bouncing out and in <90 days stay, you can avoid 90d report (endlessly) *and* naturally get a new 180 per time.

This is correct, right?
Greg ********
@Cameron ********
Yes you can avoid 90 day but why take the risk. They may hold it over you in the future as not complying with immigration rules. As for overthinking. I was a PM for overc30 years in regulated industries like Pharma etc. They pay us to make the complexities easier. If we could not anyone could do the job lol
Cameron *********
@Greg *******
That was exactly what I said to Steve in this thread, which is precisely why it can be confusing, and hence checking is likely a good thing...

If nothing else it'll lower the burden on you main guys in here who answer 99%, no?

Re your prev job, probably explains why you're a 'group expert' and people have questions about intricacies. In some of the forums online and even in this one there's plenty of comments of people saying "well you didn't understand enough and now xyz has happened"...
Greg ********
@Cameron ********
I am not an expert. I do analyse things too much. Hate disinformation and bullshitters lol
Dany ********
wait for the experiences people post about the extension. dont worry now, you have plenty of time.
David *********
Who knows what might happen by the time you’re needing an extension
Ray *****
Leave and come back. No issues reported so far

Extension you just have to show everything again at your immigration office
Jef ********
I’ve herd a few people (visa people) saying that if you get an extension that you have to “re qualify” eg re submit or show documents again like bank etc and income if you are a remote worker. Or if soft power bookings from Muay Thai etc.

I’d say for the amount of headaches it would save book a cheap flight out for the day and come back
Julien ****
@Jef *******
We need to have a proof of this. Do you know anybody who applied for an extension ?
Jef ********
@Julien ***
watch this fast forward to 17:00 mins

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Andi ***********
@Julien ***
someone posted their experience of extension, updated 500k balance is required and the docs used to apply for the DTV. I believe he said the 500k must be banked for 3 months. The post should be in the threads.
Julien ****
@Andi **********
Thanks. I looked for it and could not find it.
Andi ***********
@Julien ***
It was very recent and generated a lot of discussion. Anyway, he had everything needed so he decided to extend via immigration. Easiest way is just doing a border run.
Angelo ***********
@Andi **********
It was probably in a different group, but I saw it as well. Not sure, but I think I saw two posts from two different people at different locations in Thailand.