ask
Search
Ask
Answereda year ago

What are the drawbacks of a Digital Nomad Visa (DTV) compared to a Retirement Visa in Thailand?

Christer **********
asked Sep 17, 2025
5.9k
views
43
replies
7
likes
Curious

What are the cons of a DTV versus retirement visa? I know the bank account issues as one is technically a tourist but are there other cons?
Answer summary
The main disadvantages of a DTV (Digital Tourist Visa) compared to a retirement visa include needing to leave the country every 180 days, difficulties in obtaining a Thai driver's license and vehicle purchase, potential banking issues, and the uncertainty of the visa's future status. Additionally, while the DTV allows remote work, the retirement visa offers long-term stability and doesn't require annual renewals or a significant sum of money locked in a Thai bank account. The retirement visa is better established, which may provide more security for long-term residents.
43 repliesnewest first
27

Click comment and we will ask for your email, then OTP, then name.

Elías ********
Elías ********
If you're over 50 and don't want to leave Thailand, the retirement is better. In my case, I visit home once every a few weeks, so de DTV works perfect for me. I almost never have to do the 90 day report and I'll never need to extend in country.
Andrew *********
Andrew *********
One is a long standing visa, the other is a new visa introduced by a now removed government to troll the almost certainly incoming government. One will be in place next year, the other take your guess.
Christer *****
Christer *****
For the one that still works (remote) and still has things to fix in the home country, DTV is good.
Joe *****
Joe *****
wow I hate dtv rrs..they all talk like they are international players but living in a 3rd world country on $2500usd a minth..cant wait for them all to fxxk offf
A. ************
A. ************
One thing no one has mentioned as a POSSIBLE negative with the DTV: What happens after your 5 yrs on the DTV are up and you would like to continue staying in Thailand for extended periods of time? If the DTV is still around, can you get another one? Especially if you received your original under soft power. The retirement visa scheme is well-established and minus some possible eligibility changes (increased $$ requirements for new applicants) it more than likely won't be going anywhere. I'm not predicting it, but I can imagine the DTV with all of its vagueries and not being created by Thai immigration being sunset at some point in the future. I hope not. My hope is that they get a better handle on the qualification process (too many ifs, ands, & buts between the different consulates) and figure out a way for people on the DTV to have some sort of banking privileges. Maybe some sort of limited banking that help discourage mule accounts being setup by scammers. Things such low maximum balances, and make the number of monthly transactions low so that it makes it unattractive to criminals because they can't effectively move large amounts of cash, but allows real DTVers to pay their monthly bills, etc.

After writing all, I realized that since you apparently are old enough to consider the retirement visa yiu could simply switch over. Only thing is, as I mentioned, they might increase the financial requirements at anytime for new applicants. 😃
Eddie *****************
Eddie *****************
A. Nony Mous if you are eligible for retirement visa, you may then decide to change to retirement visa or apply for a new DTV if it still exists
James ********
James ********
A. Nony Mous nobody really knows.
Beac*****
Beac*****
With DTV no annual renewal which is a major plus if you aren't certain to be in Thailand at the time of renewal. Also, no requirement for 800,000 THB tied up in a Thai bank account (or monthly deposits necessary).

Either way, rules can and probably will change at any point in the future.
Peter **********
Peter **********
BeachDude for me it was the 800k. The opportunity cost of that is huge over 5 years. Say 4% compound interest for 5 years is a significant chunk of money.
Thai ************************************************
Thai ************************************************
You are a long-term resident vs you are a tourist allowed to stay longer. Non immigrant visas are better in every case, except the ease of getting the DTV.
John **********
John **********
A DTV is a tourist visa, a so called retirement visa is a non-immigrant visa. The 2 are quite different. The DTV you have to leave every 180 days, retirement you never have to leave. DTV can only get a 2 year driving licence, retirement visa 5 years. And so on
Ray *****
Ray *****
@John *********
and so on? I don't drive, so makes no difference. I have multiple bank accounts already, leaving every 180 days no problem I leave every 8 weeks or so.

Benefits of DTV it's multi entry straight out of the box, you don't have to be in country at the same time every year to extend non o. You never have to do any paperwork at all for 5 years and never have to visit immigration if you don't want to.

DTV wins every time and I've had the non o for 8 years.
Andi ***********
Andi ***********
@Ray ****
Totally agree, the multi entry benefit 5 years at 10k is amazing.
Oliver *****
Oliver *****
The bank thing is a pain, but still doable.

Anyway the banks are closing or suspending foreigners accounts left right and center.
Anonymous ******************
Anonymous ******************
@Oliver ****
Only those on tourist visas
Oliver *****
Oliver *****
Anonymous participant 850 they are suspending lots of accounts for retirement visa holders.

Not all of them can get their accounts unsuspended easily.

Lots of new hoops to jump through thanks to AML rules
Anonymous ******************
Anonymous ******************
Anonym deltagare 850 There are plenty of people on other visas that has had their accounts frozen. They eventually gets unfrozen but it has taken more than a month for some.
Patrick *********
Patrick *********
Anonymous participant 850 not true. Thai government even had emergency meeting with all major Bank officials a few days ago to fight the issue which they admitted was “a massive unreasoned freezing of thousands of bank account both Thai and foreign due to errors in their newly introduced AML procedures”

***************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************
*******
/14/central-regulator-bank-of-thailand-to-take-urgent-action-after-thousands-of-complaints-of-claims-of-incorrectly-frozen-accounts-in-banks-crackdown-against-scammers/?fbclid=IwZnRzaAM4Pj5leHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHgAji2W6qEQxZqA1cMDIs7GMJF0wwxjA1MesMYGt_FSqjM_8tQCaROIbGtkd_aem_ysUxZSMEkdoRKogf9jVNxw
Anonymous ******************
Anonymous ******************
Anonymous participant 791 if it's taking so much time there's obviously other activity in their accounts which has come under scrutiny
Ja *********
Ja *********
Anonymous participant 850 not correct ..
Ja *********
Ja *********
Anonymous participant 850 not a problem with mine
Paul *******
Paul *******
Anonymous participant 850 He means that bank accounts are being closed and it's NOT just affecting tourists.
Anonymous ******************
Anonymous ******************
@Ja ********
Yep. 100% correct. Thai banks are no longer supporting tourists
Greg ********
Greg ********
There was a recent thread about this. DTV you can work remotely legally. Strictly speaking on Retirement you cannot. Less visits to Immigration Office with DTV. Money not tied up in a Thai Bank if doing capital option for the O. Costs can be debated but it depends how much you travel. Full 5 year O with multiple entry permit each year cost is
*****
currently. The DTV is 10k initial plus SP if that route plus border bounces for most. The "O" is a much more established visa and is "Owned" by immigration who also own entry and extensions for both. That could lead to a speculative area which I will leave for others.
Adam *****************
Adam *****************
Can't buy a car or have a Thai driver's license
Guy **********
Guy **********
@Adam ****************
have bought 2 bikes and also had a Thai license as well as applying for one now, through proper channels, on Visa exemption. You have incorrect information.
Jared *********
Jared *********
@Adam ****************
I have purchased a car here and got a Thai driver's license with DTV. It is the 2 year version. I have heard that I might not be able to get the 5 year version when I renew it though (only the 2 year version again)
Greg ********
Greg ********
@Jared ********
I think it may depend on which Land Transport office you renew at regarding the 2 year or 5 year renewal. Like most things in Thailand "It depends". I am pretty sure someone posted they got a 5 year in Chiang Mai on a DTV.
Paul *******
Paul *******
Adam *****************
Adam *****************
No need for angry faces. I was just sure I had read otherwise. Calm down.
Brandon ************
Brandon ************
@Adam ****************
just delete the comment as it's incorrect
Anonymous ******************
Anonymous ******************
@Adam ****************
man really, 😆 surely this comment is a piss take
Adam *****************
Adam *****************
Anonymous participant 643 Anonymous. Quelle surprise.
Oliver *****
Oliver *****
@Adam ****************
I have a Thai driving Licence and bought a scooter on my dtv.
Adam *****************
Adam *****************
@Oliver ****
cool. Thanks! Good to know!
Greg ********
Greg ********
@Adam ****************
Yes you can. You can do both even on a Visa Exempt or Tourist Visa.
Adam *****************
Adam *****************
Erm are you sure???
Peter **********
Peter **********
@Adam ****************
yes. I just bought one last month.
Greg ********
Greg ********
@Phil *****
If the rules changed a month ago post your sources. My info is what has been true for years. If this has changed then please let us know. The onus is on your here pal to prove any changes.
Phil ******
Phil ******
@Greg *******
post your source as the rules changed 1 month ago
Ja *********
Ja *********
@Adam ****************
yes i've got 1 on tourist visa..
Greg ********
Greg ********
Jared *********
Jared *********
Bank account is biggest issue.

And the other is you need to leave every 180 days (or do the extension which is not fun). But if you leave the country occasionally anyway this one doesnt matter

Another difference is with DTV you are allowed to work remotely.

Activity

27 joined
Christer **********
Christer **********
Christer **********
Christer **********
Christer **********
Christer **********
27
people
Destination Thailand Visa (DTV)
...members
Member 1
Member 2
Member 3
Member 4
Member 5
Member 6
Member 7
Member 8

Related

25
Do I need to have 500,000 THB in my account for one month when applying for a DTV from the UK, and can I apply from Thailand?
3.7k36321mo
Should I stick with the retirement visa or switch to a DTV in Thailand?
6k161566mo
How does re-entry work for the DTV visa in Thailand?
1.8k12226mo
What are the advantages and disadvantages of choosing a DTV through soft power versus workation in Thailand?
766451y
Can I enter Thailand on a tourist visa while waiting for my DTV visa approval?
5.1k39561y
What are people's experiences with the multiple entry e-visa for Thailand?
1.1k1021y
What are the procedures for switching to a Destination Thailand Visa (DTV) while having an existing visa?
6.9k57481y
Can I qualify for a DTV visa in Thailand without employment proof if I receive disability income instead?
1.1k5122y
What should I do if I didn't receive an exit stamp at Bangkok airport and it's my 90th day in Thailand?
2.5k15202y
Is border bouncing or visa runs an option for Indian nationals in Thailand?
1.9k13152y
Can I apply for a DTV at the London embassy if I already hold a METV?
1.6k1442y
How can an ordained monk reapply for a Non-Immigrant R visa in Thailand after reaching the extension limit?
1.2k5132y
Is it advisable to use visa agents to obtain a retirement visa in Thailand without showing the required funds?
18.4k1312412y
Do I need an onward ticket to fly to Thailand with a retirement visa?
1.2k6122y
Can I apply for a tourist visa while in Thailand and what documents are needed for a 30-day extension?
3.5k26352y
What documents do I need to open a Thai bank account as an expat?
1.2k863y
Can I obtain a visa for 60 days twice a year in Thailand?
3k26193y
What is the easiest visa route to convert to a retirement visa after a short overstay in Thailand?
2k11284y
What are the visa exemption entry rules for Thailand regarding return tickets?
6.3k49695y
What is the 90-day visa in Thailand and what are the application options?
4.8k31645y
Can I convert a tourist visa to a retirement or working visa in Thailand?
1.1k2186y
What should I expect when leaving Thailand after using various visa types?
710187y
Can a German citizen obtain a new 30-day tourist visa after leaving Thailand on a non-immigrant visa?
2k1968y
What are the financial requirements for a retirement visa in Thailand when applying with dependents?
616258y
What are the requirements and process for obtaining a six-month METV from Kuala Lumpur?
5.3k49359y

Resources

Need help with your DTV visa?