The conversation revolves around the choice between a DTV Visa (Digital Nomad Visa) and a Retirement Visa for individuals turning 50. Key insights suggest that the Retirement Visa is generally preferred for its stability, allowing holders to open Thai bank accounts and not requiring frequent renewals. In contrast, the DTV Visa is viewed as a less favorable option due to its restrictions on banking and work opportunities, despite being cheaper over a five-year period. The discussion highlights the importance of considering lifestyle and financial needs when choosing between these two types of visas.
Retirement visa without any hesitation. Gives you real administrative status; widely recognized by immigration locally; no stress with renewal; can have a bank account; if you travel a lot just pay for multi reentry and you get freedom of DTV but with real long term visa
They are saying retirement visa is much better than DTV visa.. I be 50 next October... Hmmm
Anonymous ******************
I am in the same boat. After rejected in Jakarta will try in Vietnam but now I begin to question why... instead wait for 1 year..
Anonymous ******************
DTV - 340$ for 5 years , you can apply by yourself, you need to show you have 500k baht on your hometown bank, you can’t work in Thailand (can’t get an income from Thailand). You can’t have a Thai bank account (unless you married to Thai or own a property).
Retirement- about 200$ a year, you probably need an agent to help you complete the process (opening bank account), you need to put 800k baht on your Thai bank account. you can’t work in Thailand. You can have a Thailand bank account
Tore *********
Im on DTV. I would 100% go for retirement visa if above 50. No need for border rund, no easy to get and obtain Bank accounts. Its an actual long stay visa, DTV technically tourist visa.
If you meet the financial requirements, do retirement visa.
ရွှေ ******
No DTV . I am.just 50 and did R Visa. You will get stable with R visa if you plan to stay long term
but for temporary, Torist is better . Otherwise , waste of money. You cannot open bank account with DTV
Dave ***********
DTV is better value for money over 5 years (around 12,000 baht for 5 year visa) with less financial requirement. It is more flexible being multiple entry, cost in with the original fee. Providing you don’t mind popping out of Thailand every 180 days, to get a new 180 day stamp.
Retirement visa, needs extending every year, with huge piles of documents, and pay extra if multiple entry required.
For multiple entry Retirement visa, it costs 1,900 baht visa extension fee, plus 3,800 for multiple entry stamp, so 5,700 per year. Over 5 years that becomes 28,500 baht compared with DTV 12,000 baht
Wayne *******
I qualify for the retirement but would probably go on the DTV as I dont receive state pension and would like the security of being able to earn an income
It depends on what you want your lifestyle to be in Thailand. If you're going to lay by a pool by day and prop bars up by night, go for the retirement
If you're going to be busy, taking breaks outside Thailand and want the freedom to earn, opt for the DTV.
Nicole *******
Retirement visa
Neil *****
The biggest difference is one will allow you to work remote for a company outside of Thailand. The other won’t permit you to work at all.
Nonsense. You've just made that up. Both visas have a "employment prohibited" disclaimer. There's no difference between the two in that respect. A DTV is merely being promoted as being suitable for remote work, but a retirement visa will allow the same.
WRONG. It doesn't matter what visa you're on. Again, BOTH visas state "employment prohibited" but in practice online work is allowed, regardless of which one you're on.
You're either wilfully ignorant or you misunderstood the concept behind the DTV. Even the ministry of foreign affairs, immigration and the labor department are not on the same page about this visa.
if you get caught your Visa will be revoked and yes you can get caught because you’re having to bring money into Thailand and if you’re more than 180 days you have to declare it your tax resident be careful
Nope - you cannot do any work at all on Retirement according to the legal requirements.. In practice though how would anyone know if you are working remotely? I know a few on Retirement work as consultants in their old industries. They tend to fly out for these short assignements though.
unfortunately not. That’s the key thing the DTV allows you to do.
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Anonymous ******************
Depends on lifestyle if you will live in Thailand for extended periods in the same location. Retirement is best.
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Retirement for your Thai bank account and peace of mind.
Bill *********
Anonymous participant 571 instead of getting a Thai bank account. Just get a Charles Schwab checking investment account all the fees that charge you at the ATM they give you it back at the end of every month.
the refunding Thai-side ATM fees has few equivalents outside the US. The larger component though is the home bank fee, on an average card that is far larger than the 220B charged Thai-side. If you can avoid that with a zero-fee card, good enough, and many countries including the UK and Australia do have good options there.
Regular HSBC debit card will charge 2.75%+£5 which is ~766B on a 20,000B withdrawal. Credit card is even worse, 5.98% which is 1,198B. Regular US cards if you don't shop around often charge $5+3%. So most important thing is to get one that eliminates or at least reduces the home-side fee, this is much more important than the Thai-side refund.
Starling Bank is an example of a zero-fee UK card. Some fintech cards like Wise or Revolut have zero fees on spend but do charge on ATM use, although it can be less than a regular bank charges. Best to shop around and get zero if you can, although this isn't possible in every country.
nowadays doesn’t matter there is tons of other apps out there like Moreta and there’s another one called Thai pay. And many others. That you can take your home account and link them.
yes I did that gives you an American point of view, but their other ways from other countries that you can do this as well. Every few months, there’s something new a new app or a new way to do things you have to keep up with the times.
A lot of people will complain about the fees charged when using these apps or when using cash. I agree that this argument doesn't make much sense when withdrawing the maximum amount possible and paying THB 250, but some will still complain. Only Schwab will refund these fees.
Jon **********
Anonym deltagare 571 Many banks or card providers have a limit on how much you can withdraw each time. It can be as low as €200, and the home country bank also has a fee and if you’re staying an extended period of time, for example 5 years, you will pay a lot in fees just to access your own money. Then if you’re going to use all these other apps as work around to be able to scan you will pay even more in fees.