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Is it a good idea to switch from a Retirement Visa to a DTV in Thailand?

Jun 15, 2025
10 months ago
Lynn *******
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I am currently having a retirement visa but now

Planning to change to DTV as I will be out coubtry 4 to 5 months a year. Anybody here has moved from Retirement to DTV? Was it a good idea or you regretted later after changing? Can younplease share your experience?
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A user is considering switching from a retirement visa to a DTV due to spending 4-5 months abroad each year and is seeking experiences from others who have made a similar change. Comments reveal mixed opinions: some feel the retirement visa offers more benefits, while others suggest that the DTV is still too new to assess its long-term impacts. Factors influencing the decision include personal circumstances, visa requirements, and preferences.
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Henrik *****
Retirement visa is far better visa with more β€œbenefits”
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Claire ********
My husband is (planning) to switch to my DTV. It will free up the required money that needs to be maintained in his bank. interesting to see other responses to this.
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Claire ********
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Anonymous ******************
Don't think anyone would really have had a chance yet to regret it, still to new and nothing really changed for DTV holders since launch (application reqs have gone up though).

As to the future, who knows, with thai visas only constant is change, DTV could go to hell with an OTT crackdown or they could massively increase retirement reqs..or they might do both/neither.

As to which is better right now, especially for holders of either? Entirely down to personal circumstances and even possibly just personal preference (devil you know vs greener grass)
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Guillermo *********
Anonymous participant 314 i did it because of the minimal cost 340. All the other options were 50 times the dtv price at list. Also the provitions of having a business and giving a thai person 49 % of it just did not make any sense for us. But i know the DTV is just a TOURIST LONG TERM VISA after all πŸ™
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Luit *****************
@Guillermo ********
Only when you have a remote job, or doing soft power for years anyway, the DTV is cheap, orherwise softpower cost are quite high yearly expenses.
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@Luit ****************
true if people are honest and take classes as they should. From what i have read here most people just want to get the visa and than could care less about classes or requirements. I really feel the soft options will encounter problem with people β€œ being out of status” from an immigration standpoint. Someone last week got approved with one month of gym classes they can potentially stay in thailand for 5 years which really does not make anysense. There will be checks for those i anticipate πŸ™
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Luit *****************
@Guillermo ********
Indeed a lot of people here obviously plan to abuse the visa once they got approved. That might also be the reason a lot of people do care if there are checks implemented at entry of the country. Legal applicants will have no problems with checks.
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Guillermo *********
@Luit ****************
Im 100 % there will be checks. Than you will see people here tell you not to travel outside thailand and so on . I did my application as a business owner and plan to hold the business for 5 years. Yes my application required more paperwork but those that marely provided a gym class for a month will also get to do more things once they make the changes . I really hope to be wrong but it will be difficult to control all these people with no checks. Remember covid times … QR codes green line etc πŸ™
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@Guillermo ********
maybe, but then on flip side if its not what intended then the medical path makes absolutely zero sense as no one is doing 5 years or medical or dental treatment, even one year would be pushing it in 99.99% of cases
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Anonymous ******************
Anonymous participant 314 and to further show it makes no sense existing, there is already a different medical visa that covers however long you needed, with no limits of stay, so if people really had multi year needs and if really need to keep up the "activity " to be still eligble, DTV would be just an inferior copy. Nearly same with Mauy Thai
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Guillermo *********
Anonymous participant 314 true i really feel whoever made this visa really did not anticipate the demand and amount of fraud misuse etc. Why would someone open a company now or pay for the expensive priviledge visa . They open the tunnel and i dont see this ending well for other visa categories as nobody would apply for those anymore . This is what i think could be wrong but i dont see this visa staying in its current form unless THEY DO MAJOR CHANGES πŸ™
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@Guillermo ********
Don't think the creators (foriegn office) really care that much about your concerns. They know elite/privilege market is pretty much tapped out, but they want part of the growing digital nomad/remote worker market (as a lot of countrys do). Thai economy is in trouble and they will take foriegn cash injections from wherever they can get it to keep things flowing. Only see crack down coming if one of two things happen, they start finding lots of people on DTV illegally working in country (and if that happens we just know its going to Chinese or Burmese) or immigration (who hate DTV as costing them tea money and side buisness income) manage to raise above the foriegn office in the power struggle (which currently doubt will happen due to the economy argument, but the people working ilegally would strengthen immigration)
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Guillermo *********
Anonymous participant 314 im with you on the Thai Economy but before the DTV it was farely difficult to find a visa here without paying top dollars. We look into opening a business and all of those things and it was around 5k to even start the process with. no guarantees . Having a visa that basically allows you to stay in thailand for 5 years for 340 usd is TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE IN MY WORLD so i anticipate someone is loosing in this game. I dont know if you follow the lounges at bkk. Priority Pass used to be widely available in maybe 8-9 lounges. Just last month this all change and all suddently there is only 1 type of lounge that allows the card . This all change overnight i guess some ABUSE WAS HAPPENING AT OTHER LOUNGES AND THEY WENT FROM 100 to 0. Mark my words this visa will not stay alive in its current form. I really hope to be wrong but i dont see it any other way unfortunaltely for us πŸ™
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Wannikea *********
I was Non B for 10 years then changed extension reason to a non O being over 50 for a year and then applied for the DTV medical scheme 3 months ago. All I'm doing is planning what I'm going to do/where I'm gonna go after 180 days. Might be hard to keep my 5 year drivers license. Can't think of any other downsides
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Luit *****************
@Wannikea ********
if you need medical treatment for years, DTV might be an option, but apart from having to extend the non-o every year in country at the same month I do not see any advantages in DTV compared with non-o.
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Wannikea *********
@Luit ****************
that and tying up the cash in the bank.
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Luit *****************
@Wannikea ********
cash tying up is not a requirement
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Wannikea *********
@Luit ****************
I'm talking about non O
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Luit *****************
@Wannikea ********
non-o does not need tying money to a bank, DTV does tie 500K
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Wannikea *********
@Luit ****************
you have no idea what you're talking about, unless you're doing it illegally, suggest you read the requirements for a non O based on being over 50
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Luit *****************
@Wannikea ********
It is you that don't know the rules and then think others don't know what they are talking about. you should read the requirements yourself before you put misinformation here and are rude to others!

Non o based on being over 50 is definitely possible without having money on a Thai bank account, you can also use the option of monthly income.
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John **********
I'm on a retirement visa but can't understand why anyone in my position would want to change to a DTV
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Guillermo *********
@John *********
DTV = LONG TERM TOURIST VISA. Im also with you if i was older i would not trade one for the other. By the way i also dont see the DTV staying in its current form due to abuse and amount of people currently holding it πŸ™
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@Guillermo ********
"By the way i also dont see the DTV staying in its current form" really a possibility with any visa, even retirement they debate every few years upping requirements. But the nice thing is, if something happens with one visa, can jump to another, how its been for decades now.
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John **********
Anonymous participant 314 you can jump from a tourist type stamp to another visa, but for others you can't
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Lynn *******
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@John *********
i might not be able to be in Thailand to renew during the yearly renewal. That’s a concern and not in Thailand the whole year
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Luit *****************
@Lynn ******
I think that is the only good reason not to choose non-o. People telling DTV is cheaper forget to calculate the cost of continuous softpower and trips to renew the visa
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Dnatjugweme ************
@Lynn ******
The only reason I could think of - a good one by the way.
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Ray *****
@John *********
the poster is out of the country for a number of months of the year. If he is out when his retirement renewal is due then he would have to start again.

Also the DTV is multi entry and retirement is not. Another 4000 Baht per year for the permit

Everyone is different but as I look at it as a retirement holder I see some flexibility with the DTV and no reason to visit immigration for 5 years
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Paul ********
I didn't need to transfer any money to Thailand when I got my DTV (Workcation) from Vancouver. I was able to just show I had funds in a Canadian bank account. Also no long visits to immigration just the quick and easy, 90 day reports. This works for us as we are in and out of Thailand enough to not require extensions.
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John **********
@Ray ****
you only don't visit immigration on a DTV if you spend less than 90 days inside Thailand at a time. A multiple re-entry permit is 3800 baht per annum, an annual extension is 1900 baht per annum. So you save nothing and must leave Thailand regularly. The only possible reason I can think of is the ability to not be inside Thailand for the 24 hours required to renew the retirement visa
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Ray *****
@John *********
to say you save nothing over 5 years with the annual cost of renewal and the multi entry permit is of course incorrect.

I personally travel every couple of months outside of Thailand and historically had to plan to be inside Thailand to renew. The DTV allows me to do as I wish for 5 years without ever having to visit immigration, which again is another cost in both time and expenses. So for me the DTV has many benefits over the retirement visa
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John **********
@Ray ****
you don't need to visit immigration but once a year on a retirement visa. Everything else can be done online
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Ray *****
@John *********
fair enough but retirement with multiple entry stamp over 5 years is still more expensive than DTV and no need to visit immigration ever if you travel as I do
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Luit *****************
@Ray ****
How do you take the continuous soft power expenses in your calculation? Or are you not retired an have a remote job?
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Ray *****
@Luit ****************
I'm coming out of retirement. Hence the major reason to change
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