What are the best long-term visa options in Southeast Asia considering tax implications for expats?

I doubt if theres a single person in this thread who is aware of the tax allowances you can claim yet the amount of pant wetting is hilarious!

If it comes to it, Bali will be my secondary location.. 90 days x 2, I will find some place to go for a couple of weeks. 90 days TH, 90 days ID, 90 days TH, 90 days ID, some place for a week or two.

I am skeptical the taxation will become a thing. With double taxation treaties in-place, and new or newly enforced taxation just means more paperwork, not necessary more taxes but who want more paperwork either.

I am looking into retirement in BraSil myself. Mild weather. Beautiful beaches. Tasty food. Language not too difficult to learn. And samba!!!!

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good luck in the Philippines .

PH sucks, probably the worse food in Asia and really nothing special about it. I suggest bouncing between TH and VN. While many aren't worried about the tax issue in TH, I suggest for now staying there under 180 days like many others and I are doing to see how things will actually go down.

Vietnam all the way !!!

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If you're earning money from a Thai based Company, or your tangable efforts while living here generate income, I believe is where their sights are focused.

No room for semantics once they declare, but they haven't as yet

You could consider Laos also

Those countries are hardly options against Thailand! They're all shitbox countries. How about Panama or Mexico if you're frightened of paying a few baht in tax! 😆

Solution is LTR visa

Vietnam taxes on worldwide income, exactly the same as what Thailand is proposing. Cambodia too although I understand their whole concept of tax is somewhat strange.

For those not wanting to pay tax they could become tax nomads and move around the region spending less than 180 days in any country. There is also talk of a Schengen style visa for Asia - spearheaded by Thailand. For anyone wanting more information on Thailand I can point them to an excellent website in Thailand.

The tax rules are already in place for Thailand. From 1 January 2024 All income earned or remitted to Thailand will be taxable for anyone tax resident in Thailand (living there for 180 days or more in the calendar year). They are considered tax resident in Thailand. The other change that is being talked about is Thai tax residents being taxable on their world-wide income.

Cambodia is an easy option. About $500 USD for annual agent visa. Philippines is fantastic if you qualify for SRRV. Thailand is the best in the region if you qualify for LTR (no tax at all). Indonesia and Malaysia both have made recent changes for the worse, but improvements could be coming. Vietnam is super easy for 90 days, but no retirement visa. Myanmar and Laos have their own set of problems. Singapore insanely expensive. Brunei is notoriously difficult but easy for 90 day visa. And Timor-leste is a major problem. Fairly nearby and outside SE Asia, also consider Sri Lanka and Turkey as great options with easy long term visas.

Dont understand, increase in UK pension relative to country ?

Do you mean exchange rate ?

Enjoy the Phillipines , they also speak good english

What happens with the tax rules is uncertain but the rules arent changing , just the stricter implementation of existing ones. So nothing has to be approved by the government and nothing has to appear in the Royal Gazette. It can happen at any moment if they so wish.

Anybody who asks about tax advice on Facebook forums doesn’t need to worry about being taxed

In Thailand.

I personally am not worried at all concerning the proposed new tax rules in Thailand. The final language has not been approved and who knows how or when it will affect retirees if at all. My guess this is all a nothing burger for the vast majority of retired expats living in Thailand.

Philippines food and accommodation not on Thailand level. Too big a negative for me

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