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What are the best options for staying longer in Thailand if I'm under 50 and retired?

Sky ***********
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Hi group again. I wonder if someone know how and what are the best. I have done Tourist visa landway two times at Malaysia and wonder if someone know or experie if i can go again and sade or what have you exdpired? The last time they asked for ticket to sweden and my statement. I am 48 and retired and all i want is to stay. Any tips Please!!!!!!
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The user, who is 48 and retired, has made multiple land border runs to Malaysia for tourist visas and is seeking advice on how to extend their stay in Thailand legally. There are several options discussed in the comments, including applying for a Single Entry Tourist Visa that can be extended, considering an Education Visa for language studies, and the long-term possibility of getting a retirement visa when reaching the age of 50. Key points of the conversation emphasize the limitations of being under 50 in obtaining certain visas and the need to follow visa regulations to avoid complications with immigration.
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Tod *********
Tod *********
Okay after that oh-so circuitous and winding conversation I think
@Skye **************
, knows their choices, hopefully knows the difference between a visa exempt entry and a tourist visa. And can make a decision on their stay here.

Good Luck (y)
Robert *******
Robert *******
Just did a search. The visa rules did not change overnight, so the same solutions as yesterday are the same. You should know from your question last month that the only option you have is making every 90 days a new Tourist Visa for 60 days with the Extension of Stay for 30 days, or go look into an Education Visa and learn Thai language so you can stay a few months longer. There is no other option till you reach 50 years of age, that you are afraid of stamps, airplanes, don't like that the proces repeats every 90 days does not have any influence on visa rules and requirements, Deal with it or find another solution. Good luck.
Robert *******
Robert *******
Yes, sometimes I don't get it with the same questions and same random excuses why the person does not like the Visa rules in Thailand. It is not for us to like it, it for us to follow up the rules.
David ************
David ************
Well Robert I bet that felt like a 15 round heavyweight Championship fight. I thought Tod was going to throw in the towel.
Warren ********
Warren ********
Have you considered education visa?
Sky ***********
Sky ***********
OP
Can not get multipel visa from Thailand. Everything take such a long time. And in same time i am afraid to get a bad stamp in my passport.
Ian ***************
Ian ***************
To stay longer (legally) you need a non-immigrant or ED visa based on marriage to Thai, retirement over age 50, enrollment at a school, qualified job or volunteer work. Otherwise play the visa run game by doing multiple visits to borders and Thai consulates. That might get you 2 more years until the red stamp of denial.
Ellie *******
Ellie *******
If you have monthly income of 65K baht as pension, maybe can get Non O (pensioner) <- not "O-A (long stay)", multiple entry...
Robert *******
Robert *******
Rules are set by the Thai Ministry of Foreign affairs and should be equal in every embassy or consulate. Retirement is minimum 50 years of age. Like to know which country does not have that as requirement, could be a nice solution to those who are not yet that old.
Ellie *******
Ellie *******
Thank you Robert, I see now.

I saw info at Thai embassy in another country, from this there is no age condition for Non-immigrant-O (Pensioner), only for Non-immigrant O-A (Longstay). So I wondered.
Robert *******
Robert *******
Every Non Immigrant O visa based on retirement has the requirement of minimum age of 50. You can see for example the Thai Embassy Page of Sweden, I took this country because OP is from Sweden:
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Ellie *******
Ellie *******
Or Non-O (not -A) still set for 50?
Ellie *******
Ellie *******
minimum age of 50 is set for long stay. But I can't find any minimum age set for Non-O (pensioner), not O-A.
Robert *******
Robert *******
Minimum age is 50 years. so No she can not get this visa.
Reiner *********
Reiner *********
Yes 2 years and the difference between 65 and 44 k
Reiner *********
Reiner *********
U can retire in thailand from 50 years on
Sky ***********
Sky ***********
OP
I have retired, but 48 year and 44 000 per month. Its this two years of confusing. Is there any easy way to stay and still have it ligally??
Sky ***********
Sky ***********
OP
Sorry and Ofcourse. I look tomorrow, Annika Almersson
Sky ***********
Sky ***********
OP
Is this school to adults or children, Annika Almersson
Sky ***********
Sky ***********
OP
Tack Annika Almersson har dessvärre gått där redan.
Rik ********
Rik ********
@Skye **************
I dont, sorry. I think by making a new post asking for advice on language colleges in Krabi you will get better results, as that question is more likely to be seen when in a post heading. You can also use the page's search engine - I've found this most useful in the past. Good Luck!
Sky ***********
Sky ***********
OP
Does anyone know if its any aduld school in krabi? Anyone????
Sky ***********
Sky ***********
OP
Does anyone know if its any aduld school in krabi?
Rik ********
Rik ********
Others will be better than I to comment, as I am unsure of the retirement process but, if you plan to stay for two years and then retire here I would suggest you consider looking into learning the thai language at one of the private colleges. Officially, you will be entitled to stay for up to 15 months. You can then learn another language to get even more time here.

If you need more time to soak in the information, given today, you could still do a few more visa runs. Just make sure you do them smartly - not going to the same consulate over and over / evident of: onwards travel, accommodation and have 20,000 baht on you. Just remember that it's always a risk with this option as Annika pointed out you can stay until one of the IO stops you.
Rik ********
Rik ********
Short Term: use SETV or METV visas with flights rather than coaches. Look presentable / Have evident of: accommodate / flights out of the country / 20,000 baht on you - All prepared before re-entry to Thailand - try not to visit the same consulate more than once or twice. If you research this group you will see many use this option for a number of years.

Mid Term: Education - dependent on the education you already have you could get a Degree, or, use one of the private colleges for up to 3 yrs learning: different languages / cooking / Muay Thai or combat training.

Long Term: Retire (showing a 'income' via pension or savings etc) or marry Thai.

There are many on here who know better than I, when it comes to staying in thailand but this seems to be the condensed version of the advice I see given.
Robert *******
Robert *******
There is no way to avoid stamps in your passport by travelling abroad for longer times.
Sky ***********
Sky ***********
OP
Ok i have a Tourist visa today, i have been to Malaysia twice and ones this year. I wonder how can i avoid to get stamed in my passport? Its only three month is a chort time to do anything!
Robert *******
Robert *******
There is NO limit on getting into Thailand by land or by plane using a VISA. Only by land border using the VISA EXEMPT ENTRY (coming without a VISA). There is a difference, you have a VISA or you do NOT have a VISA. It is complicated when you call every thing a visa or just a run. This is an example of a VISA:
Sky ***********
Sky ***********
OP
I have been there, when i got miniwan back to Thailand
Tony *********
Tony *********
Sky ***********
Sky ***********
OP
Can i go to Malaysia a third time, and one visa this year?
Tony *********
Tony *********
Give him a bell
Dominik ******
Dominik ******
Sounds complicated... try to ask on the nearest immigration or on the nearest consulate.

Good luck anyway
Robert *******
Robert *******
There is a hard part of living abroad. If you like to stay in Thailand you need a Visa, if you do not like to fly, book a bus ride to Penang Malaysia and apply their for a Tourist Visa, There is no need for confusion or being insecure, go to an Thai Embassy or Consulate and just fill in the paper, provide the documents needed and pick it up the next day. In Penang are many Visa agents that are more than willing you to help you with all the paper needed.
Sky ***********
Sky ***********
OP
I have done singel entry both times. I feel very confused and incecured to go with plane. Do anyone know if i can take a plane from krabi at a good cost?
Robert *******
Robert *******
Get a Single Entry Tourist Visa and save the second and last border run for this year, just in case.
Sky ***********
Sky ***********
OP
I have done twice runds but only ones this year. The second was last year.
Ian ***************
Ian ***************
Try another Thai consulate (Vientiane, Phnom Penh, Penang, etc.) for tourist visa and extend (60+30 days). Maybe can play that game until you're 50 then go with non-imm-O based on retirement.
Reiner *********
Reiner *********
Or try an education visa, go to school learn Thai .... up to 15 month and then u can do a proper retired visa
Robert *******
Robert *******
You can only do a land border run twice a calendar year to get the Visa Exempt Stamp for 30 days. Or fly in, better option is to apply for the Single Entry Tourist Visa, you will get 60 days and can extend with another 30 days.
Reiner *********
Reiner *********
Fly in with airplanes cost the same or better do a 60 day tourist visa witch can be extend for an other 30 days ... easy at Penang
Sky ***********
Sky ***********
OP
I have done the rum twice and i wonder if someone done the same or give me advise.
Steven ***********
Steven ***********
Get a retirement visa
Steven ***********
Steven ***********
Ahh yeah. Missed that bit
Robert *******
Robert *******
Did you do twice a border run to Malaysia and came back with the 30 day Visa Exempt Stamp or did you apply for a Tourist Visa at a Consulate or Embassy in Malaysia?

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