59 year old uk citizen with approx 120k nest egg and 17800 per anum pension is this enough to retire to thailand im also a diving instructor would i also be able to work im guessing not
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A 59-year-old UK citizen with a nest egg of approximately 120k and an annual pension of 17.8k THB can generally live comfortably in Thailand, especially if they manage their lifestyle wisely. Comments from the community suggest that this budget is sufficient for a decent quality of life, particularly in areas with a lower cost of living. However, concerns were raised about potential employment as a diving instructor due to work permit regulations, requiring foreigners to navigate legal requirements related to hiring and employment ratios with Thai nationals. It is highlighted that working on a retirement visa is not permissible; instead, a work visa is necessary for employment in Thailand. Overall, while living in Thailand can be affordable, careful planning around expenses and understanding visa requirements for work is crucial.
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Hi John. Don't marry a Thai woman and this money will be enough for you
Oliver ********
could be fine for now as long as you've got decent health insurance and are happy living a relatively simple life - whether the maths still works in 10 / 20 / 30 years is another matter (Thailand is still a developing country so it's likely to become much more expensive over time)
Bruce *********
Money is adequate if you stay away from bars but keep in mind if you start dating or get married you will find it may not be enough.
Pobs *****************
You can do it comfortably for a lot less
Christopher *************
Your choice
James **************
Easy,
Jeff *******
hmmm you won't be loaded but it's ok if you're not an habitual bar guy or massively into golf. If you're into bar girls, you've probably got about 18 months!
Jock *****
Money good, just retire and enjoy it 😉
All the best
Bryan ********
Check out this handy savings drawdown calculator available online. Add your uk pension at 67 and I would say you’ll be fine.I’ve just spent a year in Hua Hin and would say your budget is fine. Most day to day expenses are cheaper. My council tax and utility bills not including rent uk £500. Thailand £60.
Jim ******
Enough to live on and invest your nest egg wisely. You cannot work if you go the retirement route.
Christopher *************
Buddy if you like pm me I can put you in touch with my British financial adviser who works in bangkok , to keep your money growing , I do the same
if anybody you do not know calls you «buddy» and mentions «financial advisor» in the same sentence I would turn around, walk another way. I came here first time 46 yrs ago, alternated between 5 star hotels and giant per diems when working, and sleeping on dirt floors or wobbly wooden ones in jungle or Klong Thoey slum when out of business. Come and try it out, your hard-earned Baht are more than enough to keep you going, try to make some thai friends though, they´ll help you out when they understand that just like them you have limited resources. As for women? I dunno. Been living with the same one for more than 30 years and she treats me well. «I´ve go a women way up town, and she treats me well».
are you smoking something ,, you sound retarded . Just mind your own business my offer was a genuine one to help someone my FA is part of a big company so please just shut up and go away---- infact carry on smoking what your on now
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Si *******
Avoid investment plans
Regardless of how much of a no brainier it is.
Just rent a condo etc and enjoy
Avoid ladies of the night for anything more than ANight.
Bob **********
Its really not a lot of money the way things are going over here but yes you can be a dive instructor but you’ll need to live on the coast somewhere
Matthew **********
2000B a day. That's absolutely fine if you stay single. Put a Thai girl in the mix? Take your age , multiply by 100, is the general rule. 😂
John ********
Matthew Giddings that genuinely made me both smile and work out how much that would be
he's looking at 5900 plus his own 2000. Call it 8k a day. Best get diving instructing. 😂 Only kidding, there's some real girls, even on the islands.
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Pierre *********
I'm doing the same with similar budget in Surin. It's plenty of money to enjoy life, but like anywhere else just dint spend more than your bringing in. It's a wonderful lifestyle, great culture.
Jo **********
depends on where you want to live rural North yes
Dave *********
Don’t think about working, give it 1 year of doing nothing except what you want to do and when you want to do it, and you will not give working again a single thought
John *******
Yes enough for good life but becareful new buffalo 🐃 are in demand lol
yep....buffaloes seem to have a short life span ...just make the ground rules very clear. They respect that....they use suckered that they don't respect.
Learn the culture and follow it.
Never be a self righteous prick, never critique Thai politics, food, life style, you are a guest. Make good Thai friends and try to learn some language.
Lived tgere 7 years pre covid...loved every minute.
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Nick *****************
Fir diving you'd need a work permit. Drop.me a line if you'd like to chat.. ScubaNicks. Here since 2004
Ian **********
You will get an amazing place on Kho Tao which is a diving mecca and you can freelance just for something to do
Dave *****************************
Reluctant to comment, as it will probably get deleted. Yes you can live comfortable on your pension if you don’t go crazy. Try pay it all to Wise or Revolut. Exchange and transfer at least 65k baht per month for 12 months. This will help with next years visa. Try get proof of your pension. This will help with your first retirement visa. As for bikes or scooters. Hire a small 125cc. Much safer.
Then paid cash for new Honda Click...Rode every day....Fuel about $8/ 2 weeks. Scheduled services approx $8. Insurance, rego, liscence approx $50/ year. 2019.. not sure now.
for example mate... Twice I gave advice from experience and twice my post were deleted stating I gave false information. I do not lie. I give advice by my own experiences and find that insulting.
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Kevin *******
Modest life in Bangkok but totally doable, *or* a very nice life in a smaller city with few expats if you're comfortable with that. (Think Buri Ram, not Hua Hin.) Or split the difference and go to Chiang Mai but then you've got poison air a few months a year. In any case I hope you like Thai food and/or cooking.
Don't touch your nest egg: it's not that much but you'll really need it if this doesn't work out and you have to go back to UK. Also: plan in advance for health insurance, for little things it's fine to pay as you go but you'll lose that nest egg real fast if you're hit by a moped and go to the private hospital uninsured.
As others have noted: watch out for the booze and the babes, either one can torpedo your budget before you realize what's happening. The good news is that with a little patience you can find a partner who carries her own weight (or his, whatever) and drinking like normal Thai people is actually pretty cheap. You just have to like highballs. :-)
Kev **********
You cannot work with a retirement visa. You can have a work visa but restricted to few jobs. But a bike? I wouldn't, it's dangerous in Thailand...but that's my view. The Thais could do with some good driving instruction however you may not be able too. The driving schools will not be to the standards you may expect and the fairness you may expect.
Failed last point on practical on a Friday....the examiner gave me a couple of tips re weight distribution. Practiced on the week end and passed 9 00 Monday.
Rode every day for 5 years.
Say one minor accident.
Never involved in accident. Felt far safer in Chiang Mai city traffic than I do driving a car in Australia.
My Thai friends gave me only two pieces of advice.
I. Forget about the traffic behind you, focus on traffic ahead and respond.
2. When yiu use your indicator move immediately.
Had to cross 4 lanes of traffic in approx 200m to get home.
Easy as pie.
The only aggressive drivers in Chian Mai were tourists and privilaged expats. Once you are in the traffic it is not as scary as it looks.
Just respect other drivers. Never saw a Thai driver exhibiting any road rage in 7 years.
a car licence transferred from an overseas existing licence is fine. But these companies providing a licence without you taking test or lessons is a good way to get people killed on the roads here.
I went to te Department of Land Transport Government to ask about a Bike liscence. They asked me if I had my Australian liscence. I showed them my Australian liscence, International Permission to Drive, My Police and Health Clearence and My certified address, and retirement visa. No thinks involved. They processed me for a driver's liscence, which I never used, and guided me through the bike liscence process.
hi. Sorry not being negative with your situation. I went to get car licence same as you with UK license.
My gripe is the agencies offering licences for a fee. This allowing idiots on the roads no test, no training...causing deaths accidents. However where I am plenty of road users under age, no insurance etc.
yes true, thats about my mthly budget also. Mind you we are helped by a good thai friend we hav known for yrs that she rents out a 2 bedroom semi - detached hse on the darkside for only 7,000b a month to us.
Same me, left London after financial crash. Been here since. Never regretted one bit. Went bac short visit while ago. Absolute mess now. Angry people everywhere, even got migrants sleeping in tents in centre of Park Lane Mayfair W1. One of the most expensive areas in London.
I'm with you all the way, so far its been a no stress life here. Can't see me going back.
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Nick *******
Does it really matter what it's called? Stop being so picky
Alastair *******
I suggest you rent - do not buy as you will lose!
Budget for 10 - 15k baht per month on a condo. Don’t choose an area until you’ve traveled to a few places. Enjoy this travel around Thailand.
Enjoy Thai women - you don’t need a wife so soon!
Get a scooter or bike as it gives you mobility and is fun. Wear proper gear and get health insurance that covers riding motorcycles! Look at the fine print, ok!
10-15k is possible I agree. But everyone is different. If somebody loves say , Phuket or Samui and wants to be by the sea (a diver may well) , it would be more like 15-30k for condo.
Asking if its enough. 😂Brother you’re set for life
Nigel ********
For working it depends on what type of visa/permit you come in on if you get a retirement permit You can not work.The money you have can last if you stay away from bar girls with the top up of your OAP in 7 year if retiring here forever it will be tight don't forget health insurance it's about £100 per month good luck 🙏🙏
Bhavin **********
Money should be enough if you stay away from bars and scammers, but being a driving instructor from UK , looking at people driving around in Thailand will drive you nuts😂
I had a new and nice 1 bdr condo in a VERY popular building with some of the most amazing amenities, and VERY popular area, for 15k bht p/month, close to BTS and markets, in the heart of bkk. So, yes it’s very probable. And currently there are plenty of options like this for between 12-15k per month
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John ********
Good luck, 59 is a good age in life to make a new move. Thailand can be as expensive or as cheap as you want it to be. Also, as in most countries it also depends where you live and the associated lifestyle; if you just want to chill in rural Issan you will be relatively well off, in the posh parts of Bangkok you will struggle to have any quality of big city life.
Karim ***************
You would be able to work, plenty of diving instructors here. But I also think you have enough to have a decent quality of life, compared to that which you would have in the UK. Just go for it, live your life, seize the moment… you earned it. Just be savy and don’t fall in love with the wrong one.
nobody will hire him as a diving instructor, except maybe for the high season. For every hired Farang, a diving school needs to employ four Thais, paying social security and if the cancel them before the low season starts, they will have to pay 3 more months wages
if you want to work then do it you can change from Wp to retirement p later. Starting on retirement p means you have to leave the country and other complications to get a wp. Plus as lovely as Thailand is it’s better to be busy, meeting active people 🙂 Get decent health insurance that’s a cost that keeps going up. Many say rent don’t buy, but I’m happy with a small condo and to know my costs rather than gambling on rental increases which have surged in many areas the last 2,years. But like many say, costs will vary on location. Many retirees in Phuket, Khao Lak, Hua Hin, Chiangmai and Jomtien. Then many more scattered in rural areas.
I am an avid diver and have friends in the industry throughout SEA. It's very hard to hire a foreigner, with the job permit ratio. And farang instructors are plentiful... for those few available jobs. I've been diving at shops who have the same foreigners for years working there. Often the owner or part owners.
If a dive shop hires illegally, that high risk for them. Diving is a serious business where it's someone's life involved.
love diving too and it is serious business… I’m ex military with lots of buddies enjoying part time dive instructing around the world to fund adventures. Yes, for sure farang instructors are a dime a dozen. But as you can see, many companies find a way to hire them, whether perfectly legal or otherwise. And some of those guys wouldn’t be very concerned about being ‘perfectly legal’ also.
But the poster says he is q dive instructor and if living here, it’s a lot easier to be hired and sort out the work visa later
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Nongnuch ********
not sure about work permits for foreign divers. Although there are quite a few, a diving school will require to employ four Thais to be allowed to hire one foreigner. Not many diving schools hire foreigners, because they are already owned and run by foreigners, so why would they want to push their expenses over the limit (also regarding that during the rainy season, diving tours decline as the sight under water will blur). And employing Thais is tricky - if you cancel them, you are still required by law to pay 3 more months of wages
Paul ********
More than enough, but don't support the dead Bison
that's 66.000.- THB per month, you can live comfortably on that. If you stay away from excessive partying and drinking, you will enjoy it. Spend some off the egg nest on a scooter - they are cheap like 100.000 THB for a Honda PCX. And rent, don't buy
When you say "Rent, don't buy" I presume you mean a condo. Was just wondering why you say that. I have bought some condos when I lived there and when I felt like relocating was able to sell them without much of a problem?
everyone is different. I'm 52. Just moved here recently. I'm not buying until I know where I want to be long term. You are blessed that you do. Enjoy where you are and you are home
Thats what i am thinking … i recommend to buy… if you plan to stay here long time then better buy and after 2 years aproxm you will be even .. and then you own the bike .. if you stay for 2 weeks or 2 months then mabey better to rent .
no brand new on red plates from honda garage on Koh Chang
Edited could be last year's model but it is brand new never been owned by anyone before.
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Henrik *****
To avoid confusion only motorcycles ( 110 ccm and up ) are availabel in Thailand.
And a motorcycle drivers license is needed.
(Scooter is a tricky word since it refers to different kinds of vehicles in different parts of the world )
Henrik *****
Again talking against better knowlegde, and giving wrongfull or doubtfull information, not based on the authorities definitions and rules.
Those who cut corners and use agents, may end up in severe problems after a accident, when insurance compagnies not accepting such wrongfully acquired licenses.
scooter is the Danish and English word for the German "motorroller", and the 160cc Honda PCX ist one most the most sought "scooters" for of Farang expats. For me, personally, a "motorcycle" begins at 350 cubic meters and up. In Thailand, officially the word "big bike" means all rides OVER 400 cubic meters and everything below that is a scooter
tell me the year when the FIRST scooters with automatic transmission were introduced. And now you wanna tell me that all scooters before that date weren't scooters but motorcycles? Did you see pigs flying?
this is obviously one of the many WRONG infos on Wikipedia, because before the introduction of automatic transmissions, chain or driving shaft scooters using a gearbox weren't classified as motorcycles but as scooters. YOU are much too young to know it all
the OP hasn't even mentioned about mopeds but yet you two are having a go at eachother over what they are supposed to be called like a pair of schoolkids.
Can't wait to get on ur barstool this morning can we?
That is a huge engine, CC refers to Cubic Capacity of the volume of the engine, 350M??? Yeah I don’t think so…
Higher the CC more power output.
As for the PCX, it may be the most sold, I think the ADV 160 will replace that for Farrang, the ADV350 is a nimble bike and not as cumbersome as the Forza.
The ADV750 is great for highway touring.
The Honda NCX750 would be top pick to ride anyway in Thailand 🇹🇭 🙏🏽
this is not correct. CC stands for cubic centimetres. It’s the volume displacement by the motor. Therefore a 350 cc motorcycle displaces approximately 350 cubic centimetres. Cubic capacity is not the meaning of CC.
I’m a motorcycle mechanic. Insurance companies make their own definitions. The manufacturers all use cubic centimetres. lol. What the insurance companies call it is mute.
fair enough, as I said as a Fitter I always knew it to be Cubic Centimetres or in the case or American made Cubic Inches
Henrik *****
That’s your problem that you don’t recognize the same categories in driving licenses, and classification of vehicles as authorities.
When giving advice to others you should follow the same definitions as they are defined by authorities in international driving license categories, and even the Thai driving license categories.
And there you will not find any scooters mentioned.
you can get a Thai driving license within one day. Easy peasy when using an agency. Fully legal. And a Thai motorcycle license allows you to ride from 110 cubics to unlimited cubics. ONE motorcycle license for ALL
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Paul ********
Yes if you're a diver, dive right in! 🕶
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