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How can I verify my income for a Non-O retirement visa if my embassy doesn't provide this service?
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Apr 4, 2023
3 years ago
Stuart ******
ORIGINAL POSTERDoes anyone know how to verify income if your Embassy doesn't supply this service
TLDR : Answer Summary
Users discuss challenges in verifying income for a Non-O retirement visa in Thailand, particularly when embassies do not issue verification letters. The consensus suggests alternatives, such as maintaining a balance of 800,000 baht in a Thai bank account or demonstrating a monthly income of 65,000 baht through bank statements.
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Allison *******
deposit it into a thai bank from overseas
Oleg ***********
Put
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0 baht into your Thai bank account for 60 days. Or income of *****
into Thai bank for 3 months.Luc ********
You need to have the money on a thai bank account. All other options are becoming a nightmare.. waiting for all the posts here when immigration will index their requirements….
Terry **********
@Luc *******
"index their requirements"?.Luc ********
@Terry *********
the money needed on the bank or income. 400k or 800k or 65k/monthTerry **********
@Luc *******
I know that, it was just the "index" bit I didn't understand.Reply to
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Terry **********
I verified my by 12 months bank statements from outgoings from UK via WISE and then shown into Bangkok Bank as international transfer. I did change my Bank account name to my name - Pension fund. No snags at IO what so ever
Ken ********
Bank statement of it's sent to your bank from outside Thailand
Charles ****************
Lie. Make sh&t up.
Kevin *******
SOA 32 form it shows tax paid from salary
Kool *******
The only way to do it if your embassy won't, is by direct deposit records from your Thai bank. At least that's the only thing immigration accepts if you can't get it from your embassy, and how I do it.
เจสัน ******
Tax return documents?
For UK Expats it's easy to use a P60 form to evidence income and tax payments. Accepted by Thai IO.
For UK Expats it's easy to use a P60 form to evidence income and tax payments. Accepted by Thai IO.
Ric ********
Send in pic of your bank account perhaps 🤔
I did for mine
I did for mine
Graeme **********
@Ric *******
that works if you've been here and banking for 12 months.Ric ********
@Graeme *********
Don’t know mate. Is it fir a tourist visa ??
Didn’t see !
If so it’s what I did
A couple months back from uk 🇬🇧
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Stuart ******
ORIGINAL POSTERYou would think so wouldn't you Steve but alas that's not the case .
Steve *************
I can’t believe that some embassies waste their time, to “verify” a persons income, I really didn’t think that was part of their job? Surely bank statements would clearly show where you are financially?.
Steve *************
Personally I think it is ridiculous that you have to get an embassy to do that. The Thai immigration should simply accept your bank statements.
Jordi ********
@Steve ************
Thai immigration love stamps. I was very happy with this 'visa supporting document', how they call it, provided by my embassy (Dutch). It still needs legalization by the Thai ministry of foreign affairs, so all and all a pricey document. That was Trat immigration and can be different elsewhere. But it went way faster then hoping to be able to open a bank account and transfer funds there for two months.Steve *************
@Jordi *******
cheers mate, thanks for the good reply.Reply to
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Graeme **********
@Steve ************
like I said, they are not verifying income. They are simply certifying that a statement from an income source is true copy. Nothing more nothing less.Kool *******
@Graeme *********
not exactly true. All the American embassy did, and others, was notarize that it was you signing the wage letter you personally filled out. They never verified what you were signing was true, only that it was you signing it. Those that now do verify your stated income are the only embassies issuing wage letters that are accepted by immigration, and it's no longer notarized that you signed it, but that they did.Graeme **********
@Kool ******
I can only relate my personal experience at the Australian Embassy.Reply to
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Stuart ******
ORIGINAL POSTERLisa how?? By wait 12 months and statement from bank.
Lisa ********************
@Stuart *****
I just printed off my last 12 months statement (UK bank)Reply to
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Lisa ********************
I just provided yearly bank statement
Bob **********
My friend just prints his social security 1099
Vladimir ************
sorry. it did not work in my case.
John-Paul ******
@Bob *********
that can work.... IF you get the right person on the otherside of the desk . But a dam good question. As a liaison with US mission... I will ask. It would be logical if the amounts add up.... and it is a government issued document... but I can see issues beyond the logic vs Thai issue.Reply to
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Shaun *********
12 months of bank statements
Graeme **********
Remember, info gleaned from Facebook isn’t always authoritative. Best bet is to get the latest from your local immigration office. Best of luck
Garrett ***********
@Graeme *********
Then don’t use Facebook.Graeme **********
@Garrett **********
I dont. I go directly to the sourceReply to
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Stuart ******
ORIGINAL POSTERGraeme you would think so but not what I've been informed here.
Graeme **********
@Stuart *****
mate. I would have thought that your source of income could be verified with some sort of statement from your funds providerGiorgio ******
@Graeme *********
what people would have thought , and reallity are 2 different thingsJohn **********
@Graeme *********
sure but it wouldn't be accepted by Thai immigrationGraeme **********
@John *********
mate. I think you are referring to the old stat dec system. As I said, this was just certification that the copies were validGraeme **********
@John *********
well depends on the source of income. I have three different pension incomes from two different government sources. I took the statements to the Aussie embassy and simply had them certified as original copies. The embassy did not and would not sign off on a stat dec. This was a few years ago and Immigration in Korat accepted itJohn **********
@Graeme *********
a few years ago isn't relevant. They stopped doing this in 2019.Reply to
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John **********
You can't verify income for immigration purposes other than through your embassy. There's no option to do so for those who's embassies don't provide this service.
Stuart ******
ORIGINAL POSTEROk thanks for the information.
Rob **********
If you are from a Country where your embassy will not issue you with a verification statement regarding your income, Thailand immigration will not except any other verification in regards to your income. You can either use the banked money method or the monthly income method.
Stuart ******
ORIGINAL POSTERNo , I'm ask questions, I have no answers .
Rob **********
@Stuart *****
I think you now have the answer to your questions Stuart, good luck with it.Reply to
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James ***************
@Rob *********
- so are you saying that if you cannot get the embassy verification letter the alternative is to show on paper (bank statement and proof of pension/salary) that you can comply with rhe requirements ?Rob **********
@James **************
I am saying if your embassy will not verify your income and the OP is an Australian citizen and the Australian embassy will not issue a verification letter. His other alternative is to either use the banked method of 800,000 baht in his Thai bank account, or have an income of 65,000 baht minimum going into his Thai bank account every month.Reply to
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Richard *********
impossible>
Stuart ******
ORIGINAL POSTERNon-O retirement visa long stay
James ***************
@กะลาสี ****
- very interesting. I have just switched from *******
k rule to 65k pension/income rule. I took 12 months of bank statements showing min 65k international transfers to my bangkok bank account. The IO was not interested in rhe previous 12 months statements. He said i was ok for the year that just past because i stuck to the *******
k rule. He said when i come to renew in 12 months, i will need to show the previous 12 months international tranfers by getting a certified statement from bank. Nothing was mentioned about embassy or consulate letter. Was this your experience also ? Did you get your 12 month extension without the need for embassy letter ? Thanks (chonburi immigration)
Brandon ************
@James **************
Except you didn't switch. They clearly gave you another extension based on 800,000 in the bank.James ***************
@Brandon ***********
- no they did not. I do not have to attend in 3 months time to show 800k still in bank.The IO showed me some paperwork from a previous applicant showing the bank statement and the monthly international transfers. He said this is what i need to show in 12 months time. Must admit i thought there would have been more requirements before switching. I even took all my proof of pension docs and bank statements for the previous 12 months to show i could comply with the 65k rule, but he wasnt interested. Just said show these docs next year.Brandon ************
@James **************
The only office that requires you to go back in 3 months is the Jomtien embassy.James ***************
@Brandon ***********
- yes that's the office i have been attending for 11 years.Reply to
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@James **************
I use Chonburi immigration also and there is no need for an embassy letter from my home country (USA) However, I have heard rumors that some embassies still provide income certification letters. I don't know how true this is.Dianne *****
@กะลาสี ****
My friend from Austria was able to get her pension income verified from the Austrian consulate in Chiang Mai in November.. It was a very simple process, just involved an appointment at the consulate in the morning and a few hours at immigration that same day to get a one year extension in her passport. So it's very easy for most nationalities, except Brits, Aussies and AmericansAnne *******
@กะลาสี ****
, the German embassy is still accepting providing the certification letters for pension income.Reply to
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@James **************
about 5 years ago several embassies stopped doing letters (including mine.) I have always utilized the 800K deposit because of convenience and I'll probably just keep doing it for that very reason.กะลาสี *****
@James **************
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Stuart ******
ORIGINAL POSTERYou need a visa to stay in Thailand so what is a non O long stay. Don't they call it a visa
Peter ****************
Stuart Cain The non imm O (most of them Single Entry) is a visa. And there are more ofcourse. Normaly you have to leave the country when the visa, or better max. days stay in Thailand, runs out. But......with most countries/visa, you can ask an "extension of stay". So e.g. my visa (sticker in my passport) has a stamp "Used" on it (Single entry), so I am here now on yearly extensions of stay. E.g. On a tourist visa or visa exempt (no visa), you also can ask for an extension of stay but because the original visa/exempt is not meant for long stay, this extension is only once issued for 30 days. There are more, but okay so far. Many times people call an extension of stay also visa, but it is not correct.
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Steve *******
@กะลาสี ****
For the non imm O visa the 800k doesn't need to be seasoned for 2 months, seasoning is only required for the 1 year extention of stay.กะลาสี *****
@Steve ******
I thought the non O (which is acquired in country) and the 12 month extension of stay were essentially the same thing? Are they not? What is the difference?Steve *******
กะลาสี หมา Similar but not the same. Non Imm O is a 90 days visa(acquired in or out of Thailand), the other a 1 year extention of stay(not a visa), only acquired in Country.
กะลาสี *****
@Steve ******
I was under the impression that the non O (acquired in country) was basically the same as the non OA (acquired in your home country) and that the Non O was just a synonym for the 12 month extension of stay. This shite is confusing AF! Thank you very much for the clarification.Reply to
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John **********
@กะลาสี ****
you can't use monthly transfers to apply for the initial 90 day Non-O, nor I believe for the first extension from it.กะลาสี *****
@John *********
even if you can prove 12 consecutive deposits?John **********
@กะลาสี ****
correct. It is simply not an optionกะลาสี *****
@John *********
OIC, thanks for the clarification. 👍Reply to
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Stuart ******
ORIGINAL POSTERI meet all the criteria pension funds but carent verify to Thai immigration standed and a slack OZ Embassy.
John **********
@Stuart *****
as your from Oz the only option you have to get a Non-O inside Thailand is to put 800k in a Thai bank. I notice many Ozzie's prefer to get a Non-OA or even a Non-OX from their home country before coming to Thailand. Seems to be something to do with how their pensions operate but not being from there I don't know for sureReply to
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กะลาสี *****
Your other option is to pay a visa service if you meet neither of the criteria I listed above but it will most likely cost you in excess of $1,000 USD. I hear Key Visa in South Pattaya has one of the lower fees for this service in Pattaya. Good luck!
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Roberto *********
Verify income for what purpose?
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