How can I obtain a Certificate of Residence from the Thai Tax Office as an Austrian pensioner in Kanchanaburi?

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Jul 6, 2022

2 years ago

Michael ******

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Hi, I have a tax related problem.I'm an Austrian pensioner (61 years) living in Mueang Kanchanaburi on annual extensions of a retirement visa (no problem here). Now my Austrian pension insurance and the tax office want to have stamp and signature from a Thai tax office (Certificate of residence from the tax administration); see above. Kanchanaburi tax office says they do not do stamps or certifications, Nakhon Phatom office doesn't know what to do and Immigration says that's nonsense. Could anybody help me? Maybe some EU citizen had the same problem?

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An Austrian pensioner residing in Kanchanaburi is facing challenges obtaining a Certificate of Residence from the Thai tax office, which is required for dealings with Austrian tax authorities. The local tax office in Kanchanaburi claims they do not issue such certifications, and the Nakhon Phatom office is unhelpful. Suggestions from the community include contacting the embassy, discussing the situation with the Austrian tax office to clarify that Thailand does not tax the pension, and sharing experiences from individuals who have successfully navigated similar issues.

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Peter ****************

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I needed a so called RO22 document. After paying (a bit 😉) tax in a revenue office, I could ask this document in another revenue office. For me at least, you cannot get it for coffee money.

2 years ago

Peter ****************

@Michael *****

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So far I did it all by myself after I got this paper as an example from another Dutch guy.

I transfer every month an amount in Euro to my Bangkok bank account as international transfer. That transfer amount in Thai Baht, I print every month. I made a spread sheet with those 12 amounts (to caculate my tax) and go to the Revenue office. They fill in a so called PND91 with the total year amount and the deductions (100k฿ for everyone, 60k฿ per family (official) member, only me in this case and 190k฿ deduction because I am 65 year plus). First tranch in their system of 150k฿ is zero %. So I have a total deduction of 500k฿. If you transfer e.g. 700k฿ in a year, than it's only 5% next 150k฿ and 10% over the last 50k฿. Then I pay and buy a legal copy of that PND91 for 18฿ 🤭. With that I could get that RO22 document. In another Revenue office though 🙄. I only need this document every 5 year to get tax exemption in the Netherlands.

2 years ago

Michael ******

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Thank you again for your detailed description. Will certainly give it a try.

2 years ago

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Michael ******

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Wow, that's a good idea. Thais don't like to stamp or sign Farang documents and can sell their own for a better price. I will certainly look into this option, thank you so much. Did you have Thai help or can a Farangutan do that by himself?

2 years ago

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Michael ******

Michael ***********

Ea geht wohl um das Doppelbesteuerungsabkommen.

Thailand könnte theoretisch deine Rente besteuern, tut es aber nicht.

Wenn sie es täten könntest du das mit deiner Steuer in Österreich verrechnen.

Ich hatte Gestern ein Telefonat mit der Bearbeiterin meines Finanzamtes in DEU.

Es gibt wohl tatsächlich thailändische Ämter die so was ausgestellt haben. (Ich hab der Bearbeiterin gesagt, dass Thailand keine solche Bescheinigungen ausstellt)

Ich würde eine Mail an dein Finanzamt schicken und es genauso schildern. Zusätzlich versichern, das du in Thailand keine Einkünfte hast und Thailand auch deine Rente nicht besteuert.

Bei mir gehts um die unbeschränkte Steuerpflicht in DEU, die ich beantragen möchte. Ich bin mir nicht sicher ob ich das durchziehe und es tatsächlich Vorteile bringt, mal schaun.

Viel Glück, ich weiss die können einen zum Verzweifeln bringen.

Gruss aus Jomtien

Michael

2 years ago

Michael ******

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Vielen Dank fuer Deine mitfuehlenden Worte. Ich bin momentan diesbezuelich mit meiner Botschaft in Kontakt (wird im Kleingedruckten des EU- "Dokuments" als Ansprechstelle bei Problemen empfohlen). Die Leute dort sind sehr freundlich und hilfsbereit; vielleicht geht da was. Ausserdem grase ich gerade alle erreichbaren "Agenten" ab (ich weiss, nicht empfehlenswert und ich habe auch noch nie einen verwendet), meine ueblichen, behoerdlichen Brown Envelope-Kontakte sind leider ueberfordert. Dein Vorschlag ist natuerlich auch noch eine Moeglichkeit, danke. Viel Erfolg fuer Dich und Deine Steuerpflicht. Ich denke immer wieder , dass es uns hier in Thailand trotz aller Jammereien (wir Oesterreicher sind Weltmeister im Jammern, Raunzen und Schwarzsehen) weitaus besser geht als unseren Landsleuten in der Heimat. In diesem Sinne wuensche ich Dir eine schoene Zeit in Thailand. Herzlichst, Michael

2 years ago

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Hristo ***********

Maybe you can contact your embassy.

2 years ago

Michael ******

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Thanks, already did that. They are friendly and helpful but apparently there are big problems with this "EU-document".

2 years ago

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