Unanswered3 months ago
Do you need to enroll in a new soft power course to enter Thailand after your original course has ended on a DTV?
Does anyone have a clear answer, if you have a soft power DTV and your soft power course has ended, do you need to enroll in a new soft power course before entering Thailand, and if immigration asks you your purpose of visit what you should tell them if your course has ended.
Summary so far
The need for re-enrollment in a soft power course before entering Thailand on a DTV visa, after the original course has ended, remains ambiguous. Many community members suggest that while some have successfully entered without proof of ongoing enrollment, it's generally safer to have proof, as immigration officials have discretion over granting entry. Experiences vary, and some advise stating vacation as a purpose of visit, while others warn that being able to demonstrate a legitimate reason (like course enrollment) is crucial to avoid complications at immigration.
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Lee ***********
eazycheckth.com should be able to help you with that. Just pop your details in.
Anonymous ******************
There is no clear answer. That is Thailand. Welcome to Thailand. For example I started with a 6 months course and now I go 3-4 days near where I live instead without a course but I’m still training nonetheless which is pretty standard practice as far as I know. I also work remotely and pay taxes but initially used soft power since I didn’t work remotely at the time.
Christopher ***********
Anonymous participant 345 You've got a choice of stating Soft Power or Workcation if/when necessary. In the meantime, why not carry on as you are at present?
Anonymous ******************
@Christopher **********
yeah I mean I was without a job at the time of application and there is no rule against working remotely even on the softpower they are essentially the same. Another big thing is the IO will decide if you are dressed well, and make a good impression it’s unlikely they will stop you
David *******
No one has a clear answer
choose*******
The clear answer is that it depends on the immigration officer in front of you. If he or she is satisfied with you, you get stamp in. They enforce the entry requirements not your DTV. The DTV is just pre-authorization not a right. Also, your DTV indicates it’s a soft power and the name of school. There has been 1 report that I am aware where they called the school to verify attendance. Again, the final authority rest with the immigration officer. It might seem like this is scare mongering but it is a fact. Just because someone came in 10 times successfully is irrelevant.
Luit *****************
chooserich007 Exactly, all the reports of people getting in without problems don't guarantee anything, but some people here jyst have no idea how statistics work.
Christopher ***********
@Luit ****************
The verifiable reports of no issues upon entry represent a fraction of the true number. Most people wouldn't report because they've got nothing to report! Incidentally, how would you categorise Rex Gray's report of 3 days ago? He reported IO wouldn't permit him to EXIT at Nong Khai land border, insisting that he must fly. His GF resolved the issue by giving the IO 2,000 baht; ***********************************************************************************
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3/Anonymous *************
OPchooserich007 I am not worried about getting my entry rejected because I met a strict IO that day but will they cancel my DTV visa if I am not enrolled to a soft power course and I won't be able to apply for a retirement visa in the future
choose*******
Anonymous participant Well, IO has the full authority and discretion to cancel your visa. Will they? I think it will be an extreme case where you are breaking the law eg working in Thailand.
Guy ******
If you are not enrolled or employed they will ask you to get an exit flight. Visa will not be cancelled.
SunnyBlue*********
@Guy *****
You will need to have an extra flight every time you enter Thailand with a DTV visaGuy ******
No 20,000 baht was asked but I’ve got a Thai account so no bother.
Anonymous *************
OP@Guy *****
thanks for sharing broGuy ******
No mines workcation and I don’t have a job. Officer said they are checking all now this was Phuket.
Anonymous *************
OP@Guy *****
so did you manage to re-enter againAnonymous *************
OP@Guy *****
Will they ask to see the bank requirement of 500k baht also ?Guy ******
Anonymous participant so the deal was show proof of work/ enrollment or buy exit flight to get the 6 month stamp. DTV isn’t cancelled.
Anonymous *************
OP@Guy *****
did this happen to you?Guy ******
Anonymous participant yep
Anonymous *************
OP@Guy *****
so did you enroll in a new course againChristopher ***********
@Guy *****
You claim a DTV becomes temporarily inactive when not participating in the activity for which it was issued?Guy ******
@Christopher **********
that’s my experience. What you are saying is something completely different to what I wrote.Andrew ********
Yes you need active enrollment and proof of enrollment if asked upon entry
Christopher ***********
@Andrew *******
Incorrect. Future intention to enrol is sufficient. In the meantime, you’re taking a break.Andrew ********
@Christopher **********
untill an IO at the airport request to see your active enrollment in course as is a requirement for the visa to be active Im telling you if yo do not have
-money in checking and savings
-active enrollment in soft power course
For the DTV you will be denied entry and visa revoked - if you are asked and can not show it
Nongluk *************
@Andrew *******
Nonsense. You know nothing about the DTV and are just trolling people looking for information. Why do you do this?
Gias****
@Andrew *******
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Andrew ********
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Andrew ********
Andrew ********
@Christopher **********
its in the requirements for the visa if you are doing soft power If you are doing remote work docunents proving you are doing so is required
Christopher ***********
@Andrew *******
You know this how?
Dom ********
It’s too vague for anyone to give a definitive answer, even if you ask IOs you will get varying answers.
Personally i think it’s worth continuing the activity, even though they are not enforcing this requirement right now, things can change retrospectively in Thailand very quickly - better safe than sorry
Personally i think it’s worth continuing the activity, even though they are not enforcing this requirement right now, things can change retrospectively in Thailand very quickly - better safe than sorry
Mason *******
@Andrew *******
Calm down lad it's a tourist visa. The clue is in the word touristAndrew ********
@Mason ******
he got lucky or lying because in Chiang Mai airport they are asking for proof. Just because someone claims this as a one time doesnt mean its what they allowChristopher ***********
No. Vacation.
Mason *******
Genuine post lad DM him and ask 👍
Andrew ********
I can make a post saying that just as easy. Looks like you trolls are making ranom accounts using VPN with nothing better to do
choose*******
@Christopher **********
Vacation. Good one. Let me guess. You using DTV to live here aren’t you?Christopher ***********
chooserich007 As you know, there is no requirement to spend any time outside Thailand during the 5 years. Border bounces (both at 180 and 360 day points) can be exit/reenter same day.
Christopher ***********
chooserich007 How would anyone 'living and working here on a tourist visa' raise any red flags? DTV is a special type of tourist visa. It permits remote working. Also allows stays of up to 360 days. If you suggest there may be issues reentering (which could apply to anyone), why not suggest some workarounds to cover that eventuality?
choose*******
@Christopher **********
True but there is also no requirement to let you in either. In fact, you will likely raise some red flags after a few same day border runs ie are you living and working here on a tourist visa. Even if you aren’t doing that, the ultimate discretion lied with the Immigration officer.
Tyler ********
chooserich007 what’s the difference between life and vacation anyway?
choose*******
@Tyler *******
are you living and working here or remotely permanently vs vacation or workcation. If former, you are a more likely a tax resident.Andrew ********
@Mason ******
dogy ?? Im not the one advocating abusing the visa system by posting some random clainMason *******
@Andrew *******
Calm down lad and good luck with your dodgy ED visa 😆Andrew ********
@Mason ******
and you dumb fawk can't grasp that it's both the same thing. Intial application and re-entry IF YOU ARE ASKED if not congradulations you werr not asked. Initial application
Extension
Re-entry
Same requirements
Andrew ********
Anonymous participant no you keep paying for it idiot jesus christ its not that hard - if you dont meet the requirements for visa you dont keep it. Plain and simple you have to meet the requirements to extend in country as the same to re-entry seriously its not that hard.
Mason *******
Anonymous participant He can't grasp the difference between application requirements and entry requirements. Bless him
Anonymous *************
OP@Andrew *******
qualification has already been met the visa has been issued I am talking about re entry after the course has ended, no soft power course lasts for 5 yearsAndrew ********
@Christopher **********
DTV isnt for "vacation" please stop misleading people stuff like this will get people in trouble and it hasChristopher ***********
@Andrew *******
There have been verifiable reports of DTV holders stating their purpose of visit when asked as 'vacation' and being permitted entry.Anonymous *************
OP@Andrew *******
just to clarify after you have been issued with a DTV for a 6 month course. Your course has ended and you want to re enter ThailandMason *******
@Andrew *******
It's got nothing to do with bank accounts you clown 😆
GiftedPa********
@Mason ******
The question is when you enter thailand and declare it is for vacation, then stay for six months, then leave for - let's say Vietnam, for a week, then return to Thailand and declare again that it is for vacation purposes, how will the immigration officer look at that?Andrew ********
@Mason ******
apply for a DTV with out proof of funds or active enrollment letter for a certified school for at least 9 months and see what happens - then you can do what you are good at be in crisis except this time it wont be an actAndrew ********
@Mason ******
DTV is classified as a tourist visa - for banking reasons. IdiotMason *******
@Andrew *******
Yes and holiday meets the requirements of tourist visas 👍Gias****
@Andrew *******
you have no clue All the requirements are to get the visa
Once you get it you are done
Don’t have to prove anything
Read the requirements :
TO QUALIFY
Nothing else
Andrew ********
@Christopher **********
ok sure give it a shot apply for a DTV and tell them you will enroll later on your application and that you are comming in vacation - bet you they give you a METV instead which has been happening to people who has 6 months or less on enrollmentAndrew ********
@Mason ******
its classified as a tourist visa - but with requirementsMason *******
@Andrew *******
The DTV is a tourist visa relax you'll be fine.Christopher ***********
@Andrew *******
If you say so.Andrew ********
@Christopher **********
the only place you are asked for purpose of vist when comming to thailand is on the TDAC - the visa implies your purpose so you really dont have a clue at allAndrew ********
@Christopher **********
apparently you dont know what you are even saying when you apply for DTV it is not for "vacation" there is a term "work-cation" for the digital nomads who remote work. But for soft power there must be proof of active enrollment in order to maintain visa.
The problem here is you have no clue what you are talking about
Mason *******
@Christopher **********
Yes it's only his opinion and he's on a dodgy ED visa 😆Christopher ***********
@Andrew *******
Sounds as if that's your opinion only.Andrew ********
@Christopher **********
here is the requirements for the VISA if a visa holder re-enters and can NOT demostrate the requirements they will be denied entry and visa revokedChristopher ***********
@Andrew *******
Who is talking about TDAC?Andrew ********
@Christopher **********
thats not in the DTV application lol TDAC has nothing to do with visa application - it may surprise you but they really dont look at the TDAC
Greg ******
You’d be better off asking that question directly at an immigration office. Most people here have little to no experience beyond a one-minute interaction at the border.
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