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Do DTV holders need to provide proof of ongoing activities when re-entering Thailand?
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Dec 13, 2025
5 months ago
Anonymous *************
ORIGINAL POSTERLots of strong opinions on here, backed up with zero official info. Nowhere does it state that you always need a course to go back to when you leave and re-enter every 6 months. You might feel like that sounds like it should be the case, but we’re not here asking how you feel. We need official word, but we’re not likely to get it.. so we’re left with assumptions and hopes. The only thing that can guide us is other DTV holders experiences. Too much hostility on here, we’re all just trying to figure out Thailand’s bureaucracy ✌️
TLDR : Answer Summary
The conversation discusses the lack of official clarification regarding whether holders of the DTV visa must present evidence of ongoing courses upon re-entering Thailand every six months. Opinions vary, with some asserting that there are no formal requirements while others express concern about potential documentation checks by immigration. Community experiences suggest that immigration may exercise discretion, and while some visa holders feel secure in not needing ongoing courses, others emphasize the bureaucratic unpredictability in Thailand.
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Most important thing it is very bizarre to grant 5 years visa for a few months cooking course. 🤷 Now everybody who got it that way feels it is not justified and that's the reason why scared what's next.
Anonymous ******************
You have a visa with a goal ( soft activity ), of course the immigration may ask you to prove your soft activity 😆, same for work activity.
Probability now to be stopped/asked ? 0.01% ( depending of some red flag ).
Probability now to be stopped/asked ? 0.01% ( depending of some red flag ).
Anonymous *************
ORIGINAL POSTERAnonymous participant 794 then it should be stated (DTV entry only allowed whilst course active). No such rule is stated anywhere
Amanda ************
Anonymous participant except that you need proof of course or medical when you apply. Which also means technically that you should have proof of this when going through immigration - if asked and whenever that is in your 5 year timeline. It’s really not that difficult to digest.
The DTV soft power is for people wanting to “invest” in Thai culture or take medical treatments. It was never one long 5 year cooking course or medical treatment but as many courses / treatments as you want to take across 5 years of traveling in and out of Thailand. That is the intention. To make it easier for you to take courses /treatments and participate in the local economy. Win win.
The DTV soft power is for people wanting to “invest” in Thai culture or take medical treatments. It was never one long 5 year cooking course or medical treatment but as many courses / treatments as you want to take across 5 years of traveling in and out of Thailand. That is the intention. To make it easier for you to take courses /treatments and participate in the local economy. Win win.
Anonymous ******************
Participant(e) anonyme they write what they want. You will not be welcome in thailand long time if you don't start to use your brain 😉 The day you get asked by the immigration, and you explain that you come during 5 years to thailand because you had à 3 month kitchen soft power activity 3 or 4 years before, record à video please, it will be funny. Ps: for information, they start to put in the comment parts of the evisa paper, purpose of visa AND date start and end of the soft activity ( visa delivered in november 2025 )
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Greg ********
You can only act on current practice which is no ongoing courses or activity are required if you are entering the country. Anyone guessing that may change is doing just that, guessing.
Justin ********
Some of us were granted on a dental appointment, so the people with their stupid theories honestly sound very ridiculous. It was very obvious at the time of applying I couldn't be visiting the dentist non-stop for drilling new cavities 5 years. They could have rejected it and said so, but did not. Obviously there never was a real requirement of repeating the same activity for 5 long years.
Luit *****************
@Justin *******
The only stupid theory in here is that at a certain moment visa requirements stop. Nobody can exactly tell when and why that is logical.5 years of dental treatment is not logical, but why should they make it overly complicated with hundreds of different valid dates.
One treatment might take 7 months, another 8 months, a third 12 months, not to speak from treatments where the end date is not known at the beginning.
Therefore it is perfectly logical to just have one validity termin, but the visa is only valid for the specified purpose of stay.
Very easy, but also unconvenient for the people that are not really using the visa for the purpose, but just book a course or seminar or dental appointment to become a visa to live in Thailand.
Justin ********
@Luit ****************
Application requirements are not the same as on-going requirements. The government itself is 100% lucid on this point, they enforce it for certain visa types by insisting a constant on-going balance of the bank account required at application time. They explicitly did not lay out any such requirement for the $16,000 for the DTV post application. I read every associated document multiple times, no such language about it being anything but an application requirement appeared anywhere at any moment. I understand extensions in -country or governed by a different government body so they can require whatever they want to at that time and it can change. But the visa itself was not granted on the premise that application requirements would be checked periodically. So depending how this plays out, one might say we were defrauded by the Thai government. No one would tolerate a landlord renegging on conditions mid-lease for exampleLuit *****************
@Justin *******
just look at all financial requirenents of all different visa on the official e-visa website, and you will see same words are used for all of them. And there is no official $*****
requirement, it is *****
0 THB. And your remarks that immigration can have other requirements is just foolish, they only can check the official visa requirements, just as embassy only can check for official requirements. With what documents you can prove the requirements they are more or less free to decide about. There is no reason to mention anything about when and how often visa requirements are checked. When you read the law about foreigners entering the country you csn read they have the right to check if your pupose of stay matches your visa. So when they decide to pay more attention to this, that has nothing at all to do with renegging on conditions. The fact they now rarely enforce does not give you any right for the rest of the period.Reply to
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ORIGINAL POSTER@Justin *******
exactly. If they didn’t want people doing that they shouldn’t/wouldn’t have offered a 5 year visa for those getting dental treatment. Makes no senseAmanda ************
Anonymous participant They offer it on the contingency that Thailand is where I prefer to do my medical appointments as needed. Not with the expectation that I will be needing treatment every day that I’m in Thailand. I clearly wrote in my letter to immigration that my tests are every six months. There was no issue. And zero expectation that I should be getting tested medically daily to make the visa valid.
Luit *****************
Anonieme deelnemer They only offer a visa for a purpose you can use UP TO 5 YEARS. When the purpose is not there anymore the visa should not be used anymore.
Dental treatments can easily take more time than 6 months, so there is a good argument for the visa.
Dental treatments can easily take more time than 6 months, so there is a good argument for the visa.
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ORIGINAL POSTER@Luit ****************
the self proclaimed expert based on nothing strikes againKhun ******
Anonymous participant Luit has an overactive imagination, bless him.
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Kool *******
It is very simple. Thai immigration profiles, and stereotypes, and there are some people Thailand does not want here. That has been very evident over the last twenty years.
Luit *****************
I did ask embassy and did ask Immigration office and both confirmed all visa requirements are in place the whole valid period of the visa. When you read official info at e-visa site, there also is no remark indicating the opposite.
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ORIGINAL POSTER@Luit ****************
I’ve tried emailing several embassies and not one response. You understand people need real info not just your hunch?Anonymous ******************
Participant(e) anonyme no real information, so use your brain and other people experience? If you ask tobget official informations, 99% they will tell you that you need to résister for soft activity again ( so logical ), no official information will tell you, come 5 years to thailand while cheating your purpose of visit 🤔🤔
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@Luit ****************
So does that mean you need a course and hold the 500k throughout ?Luit *****************
@Andrew ********
If you want to comply with requirements, yes of course, if you take the risk, most likely you will not get in trouble either.Anonymous *************
ORIGINAL POSTER@Luit ****************
what requirements? Where is it stated you always need to be in a course?Luit *****************
Anonieme deelnemer The visa requirements for DTV are always 500K, soft power activity including medical, remote work/digital nomad or dependant.
Dependant on which of these three you apply one of these three are required.
When you choose for a course that is the reason you are admitted to enter Thailand, no course simply means no reason to stay in Thailand.
When there are other reasons to stay in the country, you just need a visa for that.
Choosing a visa for a special purpose, and not a general visa like METV means your purpose of stay should match your visa.
Dependant on which of these three you apply one of these three are required.
When you choose for a course that is the reason you are admitted to enter Thailand, no course simply means no reason to stay in Thailand.
When there are other reasons to stay in the country, you just need a visa for that.
Choosing a visa for a special purpose, and not a general visa like METV means your purpose of stay should match your visa.
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ORIGINAL POSTER@Luit ****************
you’re just making stuff upLuit *****************
Anonieme deelnemer Why should I? No problem if you don't believe, just ask embassy or immigration office yourself.
Visa requirements are all perfect logical.
Visa requirements are all perfect logical.
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ORIGINAL POSTER@Luit ****************
we’ll all embassies have different answers plus they’re hard to contact. Immigration I can’t ask til I’m in an airport. Why should I believe you? It doesn’t state what you’re saying officially anywhereLuit *****************
Anonieme deelnemer My experience is that embassy will answer email, and all immigration offices in Thailand also have an email address.
All up to you if you want to believe what others say, if you don't trust get your own info and don't ask at facebook groups.
And all official places just tell the same about visa requirements, litterally nowhere is stated that requirements stop at a certain moment, so they just stay valid for the whole period, why should they stop after an hour, a day, a week whatever. Not one of the people that say that visa requirements are not valid the whole period, can tell when requirements stop and where that is stated, simply because it is not true and does not make any sense.
But just believe what you like, no problem to me at all.
All up to you if you want to believe what others say, if you don't trust get your own info and don't ask at facebook groups.
And all official places just tell the same about visa requirements, litterally nowhere is stated that requirements stop at a certain moment, so they just stay valid for the whole period, why should they stop after an hour, a day, a week whatever. Not one of the people that say that visa requirements are not valid the whole period, can tell when requirements stop and where that is stated, simply because it is not true and does not make any sense.
But just believe what you like, no problem to me at all.
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@Luit ****************
I asked the Thai Foreign Minister and the chief of the Immigration Bureau and they both said the visa is good for 5 years once issued.Luit *****************
@Winston ***********
Nobody says the visa is not valid 5 years, you just asked them the wrong question. Chief of which Immigration bureau you did ask. Do you have contact info from Thai Foreign minister or do you just make up this story?Reply to
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Muay ******************
People's opinions are divided over weather further courses are required or not but one thing is certain, some people are worried and would prefer the peace of mind in having something to demonstrate on going study. My gym is currently working on a DTV plus program for our customers that are anxious about reentry.
Allan **************
You maybe right about it not saying you need a course but does it say you can come in with out a course. This is Thailand so they can ask anything they want to at immigration. Up to you how you answer them.
Luit *****************
@Allan *************
Exactly, and you got a visa granted because you needed to stay in Thailand for a purpose, in this case a course. When course is ended you have no reason anymore to enter Thailand.Anonymous ******************
@Allan *************
Exactly. No requirement but also nothing saying you don't need to show anything. IO discretion.Allan **************
Anonymous participant 376 .Same as showing money in the bank 500,000 or the 20,0000 in cash they can ask you to show them .But that's part of the beauty of Thailand is the unpredictability of it when you live here.
Luit *****************
@Allan *************
It is not typical for Thailand, most countries do not intensively check people entering the country on visa.Allan **************
@Luit ****************
like people saying that the DTV is for 5 years No it's not it's only valid for as long as the Government says it is .Reply to
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Bob **********
There’s no official word,what do you think ?? Immagration is going to just stamp you in 3 years down the line ,I personally know immigration does not like the soft power side of the DTV and they can do whatever they like holding a visa is no automatic entry into Thailand so good luck
Khun ******
Just don't look homeless and you will be fine. 👍
Anonymous ******************
I would say the best approach is to check how other visas are handled what is required, for whom, and what kinds of crackdowns are being enforced. The DTV is relatively new and was backed by the former government, which left only a couple of months ago. You can’t rely on temporary trends or on the experiences of people who have entered only a small number of times. It’s important to balance the risks. I’ve made numerous entries on another visa before eventually being randomly checked and required to show the relevant documents. Checks can happen based on targeting, but also at random. Will your documents be checked? Possibly yes there may be no formal requirement, but there is also nothing stating that you won’t be asked to show them. IO have full discretion on entries. That’s Thailand.
Ian **********
Anonymous participant 376 Immigration do not like the DTV because it was a creation of the MFA. I fully expect it to be revised in the near future
Luit *****************
@Ian *********
I can understand they are not happy with is, far too much possibilities to abuse it.Reply to
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Dany ********
Anonymer Teilnehmer 376 so how many times have people on marriage or retirement visa been asked to show proof of finances when entering the country? 😜😜 its not beeing checked at all.
Luit *****************
@Dany *******
The check on marriage or retirement visa on entry would be a bit superfluous, because these people are yearly checked when they extend.A lot of them don't even travel in and out.
DTV is a lot different, no yearly extension, so no checkpoints other than on entry.
Dany ********
@Luit ****************
DTV has the same checks if you extend your stay. its literally the same. its called extension of stay. i needed the same documents as someone on the retirement visa. so these arguments are useless.Luit *****************
@Dany *******
The big difference is that retirement and marriage NEED to be extended, and DTV does not need extensions, so these check moments that are obligatory for retirement and marriage are optional for DTV because it is multi entry and you don't need the extension of stay, but just start a new one.Dany ********
@Luit ****************
non-oa is literaly a 2 year visa without any checks… 😅 these discussions are ridiculous when people cherry pick their arguments to make a point.Luit *****************
@Dany *******
We started talking about non-o, but when you want to switch over the discussion to non-oa that is OK, non-oa has some checks at entry of country. You were the one starting to compare marriage and others to DTV. When you get the big difference explained, which is mainly caused by the fact DTV is multi entry, you say that is cherry picking which was started by yourself...Dany ********
@Luit ****************
it was all the time about procedures on existing other visas compared to the DTV. and there is many more than non-o….. i just mentioned the OA as its longer timeframe to showcase that there is no extensive check either…. and on no visa there was ever a check for hundreds of thausands of baht proof on entry, nor any other ridiculous proof… i would always rather stick with facts and not what an opinion from someone on the internet isLuit *****************
@Dany *******
non-oa has high requirements checked at approval, and insurance checked at entry after first year. Your comparison was relevant in case DTV needed also yearly visit to an immigration office to extend fir another year, but because it is multi entry there is no need to do so, so that is the reason they might check DTV more at entry. Checking visa at the border that are already checked each year at an immigration office is completely spill of resources and time.Dany ********
@Luit ****************
again you have no facts and just „could be, might be, should be“… its a pointless discussion. as a matter of fact there is no checks CURRENTLY when entering the country on DTV. thats all that we need to know and say… everything else is either pure speculation or anonymous visa agencies or dtv haters spreading false information.Luit *****************
@Dany *******
facts about what? Your statement is there will be no checks for DTV because there are no checks for marriage and retirenent visa. It is a clear fact that both these visa are checked each year at moment of extension, and therefore useless to do extra checks. DTV does not have these mandatory checks, so the argument that DTV will have no checks because marriage and retirements are not checked at reentry in the country is just an invalud argument. And for now indeed there are only incidentally checks on DTVDany ********
@Luit ****************
1. i do not talk about the future. i talk about the factual present. you are the one who is speculating about what will or might happen. 2. you need to understand the difference between a visa and an extension of stay. two complete different things.Luit *****************
@Dany *******
I perfectly know the difference, and that difference makes it possible for DTV holders to prevent visiting an immigration office for visa related things and checks. And exactly that difference also makes your argument there will be no checks on entry for DTV because they also not implemented for marriage and retirement invalid. I am not speculating, I say it might change or might not.Dany ********
@Luit ****************
again, i dont talk about what WILL or MIGHT happen. only about the factual present. you are speculating, not me. i didnt say there WILL be no checks. i say there ARE no checks.Luit *****************
@Dany *******
What is speculating when I say I DO NOT KNOW what happens in the future.And with your remark there ARE no checks you are not speculating but just WRONG, maybe incidentally, but there are certainly checks.
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@Dany *******
in regards to marriage and retirement visas, they go through the checks at foreign embassy’s when people apply for it as they need to supply the required bank statements. Thai immigration do their yearly checks when it’s extension time. So correct, there’s zilch checking at the border for those visa holders.Dany ********
@Shaughn **********
and so its the same as DTV where embassy checks your finances and then immigration on the extension. same same.Shaughn ***********
@Dany *******
only difference with DTV is people are mostly existing and re-entering to extend their stay each time, so potentially no further checks on their financials unless border security decide to start checking in the future.Dany ********
@Shaughn **********
they would surely announce that as nobody keeps 500k in their savings + printed and stamped proof of that in your bag. + a freshly dated and signed employment letter. you cannot just fabricate those proofs and its not required (yet). or for freelancer a whole documents folder with invoices or whatever you used to get the visa. people that claim that you need to show all of this on entry are just delusional.Reply to
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@Dany *******
I'm not specifically talking about proof of finances. But thanks for your comment. People on marriage and retirement face yearly scrutinity when renewing their visa with bank balance to be maintained for months plus random visits from immigration; that's definitely stricter than the DTV.Dany ********
Anonymer Teilnehmer 376 well you are cherry picking if you are not also looking at those visa and the applied checks ;) didnt you say that we should look at other visa how they are handled? lol
and this is about entry into the country and not the extension. the visa extension for the DTV is super similar to extension of stay for a retirement visa. so they can be compared very good ;) how do i
know? all my neighbors and also
many friends extend their retirement visa every year. and i also extended my DTV, so i can very well compare both ;)
and this is about entry into the country and not the extension. the visa extension for the DTV is super similar to extension of stay for a retirement visa. so they can be compared very good ;) how do i
know? all my neighbors and also
many friends extend their retirement visa every year. and i also extended my DTV, so i can very well compare both ;)
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@Dany *******
Well, congrats on renewing your DTV, but 99% of applicants don’t, because they can’t meet the relevant immigration requirements. Do Non-immigrant have the choice to not show documents to renew their visa?! No, they don't. How can you guarantee these visas won’t be subject to checks then? You’re focusing on two non-immigrant visas that are barely checked at the border, while others such as ED visas are scrutinized much more closely. Mine was Non-B and I got checked as well. You need to consider the bigger picture, not just the examples that support your argument. These are different visas with different requirements, and understanding them gives you a broader idea of what you can expect from immigration that’s my point.
If you read me carefully, I’m not confirming anything; I’m simply advising caution.
Dany ********
Anonymer Teilnehmer 376 but you are the one who is cherry picking 🤣🤣 while non-o/oa is probably the most used longterm visa. i bet LTR and Elite arent checked either.
i had multiple ED, not a single issue. same anecdotal evidence as your non-b story ;)
plus the fact that no DTV holder is requested to proof finances on entry so far. nor to show a workcation employment proof from the company. only anonymous anecdotes.
so i think the bigger picture is pretty clear actually.
i had multiple ED, not a single issue. same anecdotal evidence as your non-b story ;)
plus the fact that no DTV holder is requested to proof finances on entry so far. nor to show a workcation employment proof from the company. only anonymous anecdotes.
so i think the bigger picture is pretty clear actually.
Anonymous ******************
You clearly didn’t read my initial comment. I’m not affirming anything. I’m simply suggesting caution. You’re the one claiming there is, and will be, no check for people. Non-immigrants visa are renewed yearly with immigration but some are still subject to checks. Betting on a zero check for the DTV is a dangerous one; mostly when some are going to use it for 5 years without visiting immigration at all. That’s no different from those who confidently said opening/maintaining a bank account would be easy for DTV holders, as if they were holding a crystal ball. "Your ED with no issue" is indeed very anecdotal when reading recent news.
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There is a sign at the laos FB4 border stating dtv holders should have the paperwork with them, so it might start happening soon. I wasnt asked anything tho (3 days ago) Im workcation not soft power, but the picture posted here was true. Altho, the paper I saw, was white A4 next to the window where they stamp you. It also said onward ticket, which doesnt make any sense... but then again this is thailand 😅
Sefton ********
Thailand leaves everything grey and uncertain.. Its been this way for decades.
The expectation of clear consistent rules and messaging, then applied cleanly in all places to all people is simply not going to happen.
The expectation of clear consistent rules and messaging, then applied cleanly in all places to all people is simply not going to happen.
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ORIGINAL POSTERPoint is there is no official policy
Sefton ********
Anonymous participant It doesnt exist in the way it (somewhat) exists in developed countries.. With published rules and consistent applications..
You can howl about it, but it wont change.. Its accept it or move on.
You can howl about it, but it wont change.. Its accept it or move on.
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@Sefton *******
Every country is the same in that not everything is black and white. I have had a couple of talks with a British Consular Officer over this over a drink and football (before visa processing outsourced). I wanted to take my Thai friend to a wedding in London so was asking (This was not Thailand) for info. They leave much to discretion for a reason. PS: in the end we did not apply. The father of the bride was a British Ambassador but we thought too much hassle to apply.Anonymous *************
ORIGINAL POSTER@Greg *******
yup. I’ve given up on the idea it’s all too vagueGreg ********
Anonymous participant It is just a case of dealing with the situation as it is and realising it is fluid like many things here.
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but I can’t commit to renting if I could be turned awayGreg ********
Anonymous participant I very much doubt anyone on DTV is going to be turned away as it currently stands. There is no evidence of this.
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meanwhile 75% of comments on here suggest exactly that. Hard to know who to trustGreg ********
Anonymous participant There is too much speculation on here. Of course anyone entering the country can be asked questions. I was asked on a BOI Executive Visa which has a high requirement level. As for the DTV, as it stands today, you will get 180 days per entry and they do not ask for proof of money or ongoing activity. You can only deal with how things stand today.
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ORIGINAL POSTER@Greg *******
but how do you know that? There are reports of people being questioned about whether their course is ongoingGreg ********
Anonymous participant Where are these "Credible" sources. Show me one credible source where someone has been denied entry due to no booed or ongoing activity. Just one first hand credible source please.
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ORIGINAL POSTER@Greg *******
what’s considered credible? Someone posts about being questioned on here and everyone says oh it’s probably your fault, you’re probably Indian or you only have 11 fb friends you must be trolling. How to determine who’s “credible”?Greg ********
Anonymous participant A first hand identifiable account. Just one. Even if you can identify just one it is not a policy or a pattern is it?
Greg ********
Anonymous participant So he was asked questions - not stopped from entering. One case at one entry point being asked questions. No matter what anyone tells you on here will change your mind about anything. I worked in Project Management for 30+ years and thought I was "Risk-averse" - you take the the crown. Are you this risk averse in your life generally?
Sefton ********
Anonymous participant questioned is not an issue (just people freak out) who has actually been denied while holding a visa ??
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