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Do I need health insurance to extend my Non-O Retirement Visa in Thailand?

May 12, 2025
3 days ago
Gabriele ********
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I entered Thailand on an O Retirement Visa and now need to extend it. For the visa itself, I did not need to provide proof of health insurance, but I’ve read that such proof is required for the extension. If this ist right, does anyone have experience with the combination of German Beihilfe and private insurance, and how this can be documented in a way that is accepted by the immigration office? Could somebody give me advice?

Thank You!
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The original poster is seeking clarification on whether health insurance is required for extending their Non-O Retirement Visa after entering Thailand. Community responses clarify that no proof of health insurance is needed for extending a Non-O Retirement Visa, as this requirement only applies to the Non-OA visa. Instead, the focus should be on meeting financial requirements for the extension.
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Graham *****
How many times can you keep getting a 90 day visa in a

Given 12 months
Greg ***********
@Graham ****
good question. A 90-days single entry Non-Imm-O visaclass actually is supposed to be used to receive a longstay permit. It is not meant to use for repeated 90-days holidays. . . . So I guess at some point, the embassy or Immigration will refuse to issue or accept it
Graham *****
@Greg **********
cheers for advice
Greg ***********
@Gabriele *******
YES, visit your Immigration and ask for their handout list of requirements for the "1-year extension of the temporary stay permit based on retirement". It might differ a little bit from what I am advising you in the following comment . . . . . . . . . . . . . . How to get from the “single entry 90-days Non-Imm-O retirement visa” to the 1-year extension of the stay permit, which most people refer to as being the “retirement visa” (which actually is not a visa but a stay permit)

You apply to the “90 days single entry Non-Imm-O retirement visa” by the E-Visa online system of the Thai embassy /consulate in your home country. You will need to fulfill the requirements that are listed for this visa

The visa will be mailed to you as a .pdf document, which you need to print out, in order to show it to the Immigration officer when entering Thailand

When you enter Thailand with a 90-day non-Imm-O retirement visa, you will receive a stamp that says “admitted stay until” and a date given in blue ink. This stamp is a 90-days stay permit.

Since November 1, 2023, the financial proof for applying for a visa in the online e-visa system in most countries must either be evidence of a balance of the equivalent of 800,000 THB (approx. 21,500 USD or Euro) in your bank account,

OR

a proof of income at least the equivalent of 65,000 THB (approx. 1840 Euros).

For the application to the initial 90-days Non-O retirement visa, it doesn’t matter where the account is located. The most important is that the documents you upload to the application show that the account is in your sole name

You enter with the 90-day single entry Non-Imm-O retirement visa, and will receive a 90-days stay permit

As soon as 30 days (45 days in Bangkok and Chiang Mai) are left from the initial 90-days stay permit, you can apply for the “1-year extension of the stay permit based on retirement” (EOS)

Most people call the EOS a “retirement visa” and Immigration calls it a “visa extension”, although they do not extend any visa but just extend a stay permit. It can be a bit confusing regarding this technically wrong terminology

You will need to prove finances for this application on Immigration. The way to prove it on Immigration, differs a bit from what you needed to prove in the E-visa system in your home country

In case you seek to provide proof of finances for the application for the “1-year extension of stay” with a balance of at least THB 800.000.- THB, you must open a Thai bank account in your sole name ASAP after you have entered the country on a Non-Imm-O visa

If you use a monthly income of at least 65,000 THB as financial proof, then you must have your income “legalized”, i.e. been issued an “affidavit of income” from your embassy in Bangkok or from one of the honorary consuls

NOTE: British, Australian and American embassies don’t issue this income affidavit any more, thus citizens of these countries will need to go by the 800.000.- THB deposit method (at least in the first year)

You are free to use an agency for opening a Thai bank account for you, without much hassle. An agent can also assist you with your further application. Of course, you can also do this entirely on your own.

To apply for the 1-year extension of stay permit at immigration inside Thailand out of a Non-Imm-O retirement/over 50-visa, you do NOT need to provide proof of health insurance.

However, it is recommended, in your own interest, to have a health insurance for the duration of your stay in Thailand.

The documents required to apply for the “1-year extension of stay permit based on retirement/over 50 years old” from a Non-Imm-O visa are:

(The exact documents may vary depending on the immigration office you are dealing with. Most immigration offices have a handout with a list of the documents you need to bring with you. You need to visit them and ask for the handout before you apply)

Proof of meeting the financial requirements

EITHER

with the “deposit method”:

a certificate from the bank that you got a balance of a minimum of 800.000 THB.- that have been in the account for at least 2 months on the day of application.

This must be proven with a same day (some immigrations accept up to 7 days) "bank letter of guarantee" (in Thai: "rab roong thanakan") as well as an updated bank book and a receipt for a withdrawal from the ATM on the same day.

The 800.000.- THB must remain in the account for a further 3 months after the one-year Extension of Stay Permit has been issued, and an amount of 400.000.- THB must not be less than 400,000 THB for the rest of the year. Then 2 months before the new application for the next “1-year extension”, a minimum of 800.000.- THB must be deposited again.

OR

with the “Income method”:

an income certificate (affidavit of income) from the embassy or a honorary consul of the country which’s passport you hold, of a monthly income of at minimum of 65,000 THB

and the following documents:

***Copies of the relevant pages in your passport:

***the pages with personal details.

***The page with the entry stamp.

***A rental agreement (if available), the blue house book and the Thai ID card of the owner of the place that you are staying

On some Immigration offices you can also provide proof of finances using a THIRD method: the combination method

A mixture of income and deposit.

NOTE: Most Immigration offices require a minimum deposit of 400,000 THB deposited.

Combined with the monthly proof of income, the total must be ABOVE the required 800,000 THB per year.

You have to be careful with the income part, as a sudden change in the exchange rate can ruin the calculation - if you fall below the income level, you would immediately be in "overstay". So you need a "buffer"

For example, a deposit of 420,000 THB and a monthly income of 1000.- Euros (35,440 THB) is sufficient for the combination method.

35,440 THB x 12 = 425.280.- THB

plus 420,000 THB

would be 845.280 THB

The 45.280.- THB are the exchange rate buffer. The higher the buffer, the safer you are.

If you are planning to use the combination method, you will need to visit your Immigration and ask whether they will allow you to use the combination method in the first year how much they require for the deposit

For the registration of a foreigner at a place in Thailand, you should visit immigration together with the landlord, because a landlord is required to register you by TM30 within 24 hours of your arrival at the place of accommodation.

The landlord can also TM30 you online, in case he already has registered the accommodation in the TM30 system.

NOTE: without a TM30 residence registration, you will most probably not get serviced on Immigration!

***A completed TM7 application form for extension of the stay permit (the form is available at immigration, but you can also download it from the internet)

***a handful of passport photos (most immigration offices now take the photos digitally, but it doesn't hurt to have a few current passport photos on hand)

*** all copies of the documents must be signed by you in blue ink (!)

The 1-year extension itself costs a 1900 Baht fee

As soon as you got issued the 1-year extension of stay permit, you should buy a “re-entry permit”, because in the event that you suddenly have to leave the country or if you generally want to leave the country for a holiday elsewhere, the “re -entry permit” keeps the “1-year extended stay permit” alive.

A single re-entry permit is 1000.- THB, and a multi re-entry permit is 3800.- THB

Safe travels any time!
Gabriele ********
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Greg **********
Many heartfelt thanks for this detailed and excellent explanation.

I’m very glad to be able to access such knowledge here!

It helps me and takes away the last uncertainties.

I have all the necessary documents, I also have a health insureance.

So, nothing should go wrong now.

THANK YOU🙏🏼
Philippe *********
@Greg **********
thankyou very much for this very clear explanation...may be you could tell me if I could have a second non-imm-o retirement visa if I got one in Malaysia and then go out in Malaysia again to have a second one?
Greg ***********
@Philippe ********
you will not be issued another visa if you are still on an existing and valid visa or on a still existing and valid stay permit. Your personal details are in the database and the processing staff will see it. If you wish to keep a still valid stay permit alive, you need to buy a re-entry permit for it before you exit Thailand
Philippe *********
@Greg **********
I mean, I will go out after the first 90 days is over...and then apply for a new visa... I don't want to open a thai account or have a lease etc...because last time I came in they say tourist visa is not accurate for me
Greg ***********
@Philippe ********
if the Royal Thai Embassy in Malaysia is willing to issue another 90-days Non-Imm-O visa, this is upon their discretion . . I cannot guarantee it. . . . . . the 90-days Non-Imm-O visa is not meant to be used for an extended holiday. If you wish to spend 180 days in Thailand, apply for the multi entry 6-months tourist visa in your home country. Out of this visa, properly used, you can get an almost 8-months stay in Thailand
Philippe *********
@Greg **********
I won't be in my home country (Canada) until I return to Thailand in November... I'm currently in Indonesia for the next 6 months.

Perhaps a solution would be to apply for a non-immigrant visa in Malaysia in November, go out to Laos after 90 days and apply there for a single-entry tourist visa?
Greg ***********
@Philippe ********
you definitely can go this route. You will need to stay in the country where you apply, until the visa is issued. In Laos, you will apply by the e-visa online systemm, however you will need to pay the visa fee in cash, by visiting the Vientiane Embassy
Philippe *********
@Greg **********
thank you very much for very precise informations!
Greg ***********
@Gabriele *******
you will not "extend my visa". The 90-days single entry Non-Imm-O Visa became invalid for use upon entry. You are now inside Thailand on a 90-days stay permit based on the Non-Imm-O visaclass. When you apply for the 1-year Extension, Immigration will extend this stay permit for one year. You don't need to show any health insurcance. Are you already prepared to show the financial requirements for the application to the Extension ?
Gabriele ********
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Greg **********
yes, I got the certificate from the German Embassy for my monthly income.
Greg ***********
@Gabriele *******
Okay! . . . .well, you MIGHT be asked by Immigration to show that you have opened a Thai bank account, onto which you transfer income or pension every month. You will know as soon as you get hold of their list of requirements
Gabriele ********
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Greg **********
is having a bank account a mandatory precondition to get a one year stay permit?

And do I have to ask them for this list of requirements in advance? The official list of requirements doesn’t mention a bank account.
Greg ***********
@Gabriele *******
No, officially it's not mandatory, but some Immigration offices make their own rules. That's why you should ask them for the handout list as far in advance as possible
Greg ***********
there is no mandatory health insurance requirement for a "1-year extension of the stay permit based on retirement" that you started out of a 90-days Non-Imm-O Retirement Visa.
Brandon ************
It's not correct. The ONLY time you would need insurance for an extension is if you got a non-OA visa. Since you didn't need insurance to get your initial retirement visa, that means you got the non-O visa, not the non-OA. So you will not need insurance for your extensions either.
Ken ***********
@Brandon ***********
could you recommend an insurance company, also approx price
Brandon ************
@Ken **********
I'm not an insurance agent. The have no idea about insurance
Ken ***********
Gabriele ********
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Brandon ***********
thank You very much🙏🏼, this was initially exactly what I had been told when starting my application.

But while doing my research now about the needed documents for the extension, I stumbled over different informations.

I will go to the immigration office and try my best with my collection of documents.
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