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Do I need a new re-entry permit for my trips after receiving an 'Under Consideration' (UC) stamp for my Non-Immigrant O visa?

Non-Immigrant O Visa Re-entry Permit Under Consideration Stamp Visa Extension Process Travel Restrictions in Thailand Expat Immigration Issues

Toby **********

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I just received my 'Under Consideration' (UC) stamp in anticipation of receiving my 1-year extension on my Non-Immigrant O (spousal) visa.

My previous 90-day visa expires on the 17th April. I have a multiple re-entry permit already for this visa. My UC stamp asks me to return to (hopefully) get the extension on the 2nd May.

I need to travel out of Thailand twice in the next 30 days. Once from the 4th to the 6th April and again from the 14th to the 22nd April (these trips are essential).

Do I need a new re-entry permit for these two trips or does my existing re-entry permit cover me for the first? Does it even cover me for the second?

UPDATE: I went to Bluetree today for a fourth opinion. I went to great lengths to explain my question clearly but the short version is the Immigration Agent I spoke to told me I would not need a new re-entry permit until the date on my old one expired, then I should get a single re-entry permit for my second trip.   

As I was about to leave the boss of the office shouted out 'Mai dai'. He then dived in and explained  the first immigration agent was wrong, and as soon as I get the UC stamp my previous visa and its re-entry permit is cancelled so I need two new single re-entry permits or one multiple re-entry permit to travel during the UC period.

My conclusion is that no one, including immigration has a crystal clear picture of what I should do, but the safest option is to treat the UC stamp as a separate visa and get new re-entry stamps as required. Better too many than too few.  Hope this helps people.

Thanks for those who provided useful input.

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The user has received an 'Under Consideration' (UC) stamp for a Non-Immigrant O visa extension and is seeking clarity on the need for new re-entry permits for upcoming travel. Conflicting advice from immigration agents led to the conclusion that they need new permits for travel during the UC period, as the existing re-entry permit is considered cancelled upon receiving the UC stamp. The user suggests that it may be safer to obtain new re-entry permits to avoid issues.

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Tod *********

Tod *********

Sorry, you're telling me while you were sitting in front of that immigration officer waiting for them to stamp your under consideration stamp in to your passport it never occurred to you to ask them about it 😕

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Robert *******

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You just recieved a stamp at Immigration but they told you shut up or we will shoot you. Questions about stamp and travel are asked on Facebook, not at Immigration office.

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Toby **********

Toby **********

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if there is one thing I have learnt in life it's that if you need guidance on something administratively precise then pose the question to a number of sources and cross reference the responses. I absolutely asked the immigration officer, I also asked the Immigration Volunteer. I am also asking on here so as to improve my chances of getting it right. So far two sources agree and ironically the immigration officer's is looking the most unreliable (original re-entry stamp covers the whole UC period).

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Bob **********

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@Toby *********

good time to ask if you need a new re entry

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John **********

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one thing to bear in mind that it is normal for the immigration office to want to visit you at home between now and the 2nd of May with both you and your wife present. Did you discuss this with them when getting the under consideration stamp?

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Tod *********

Tod *********

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did you make it to the immigration office today and find out anything? Just curious 🙂

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Toby **********

Toby **********

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will do Tod. Thanks for your help.

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Tod *********

Tod *********

@Toby *********

report back if you can so we can all know how that works

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Toby **********

Toby **********

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Although I have now got two opinions from Immigration (albeit different ones) and your opinion, I am still inclined to go for a fourth check and pop by BlueTree Immigration tomorrow. Good advice and agree it can only improve my chances of success.

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Tod *********

Tod *********

@Toby *********

ASK THEM tomorrow about the proposed travel with a re-entry permit that runs out on the 17 but coming in on it before it expires and getting stamped in for the duration of your under consideration stamp AND about the second trip you have planned.

Worst case go by NEW re-entry permits that are sync'd with your new stamp

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Toby **********

Toby **********

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@John *********

Excellent point and, yes, I did. They said it's very unlikely to be until the week before my collection date so given I will be home from the 22nd it should be fine. However, we have a video call with the immigration agent tomorrow to kind of look round the house and so I think the chances of them doing it in person is quite low. Thank you for highlighting though.

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Tod *********

Tod *********

so you came in or bought in country a single entry 90 day non-O visa and then BOUGHT a multiple re-entry permit knowing it'd be good only for those 90 days ??

It should run out when your current 90 day stamp runs out which would be the 17th of April too

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Toby **********

Toby **********

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To be honest I wasn't really worried about the first trip. My main question is can I get a further re-entry permit for the second trip where I come back on the 22nd April or is there some rule that while the UC period is still in effect and the previous visa has expired that I can't apply for a further re-entry permit?

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Tod *********

Tod *********

@Toby *********

I think you will have no issue buying a re-entry permit during the under consideration period at all and it will be valid just for that period of time you got the under consideration stamp

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Toby **********

Toby **********

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great. That's what I needed to know. Thanks Tod.

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Toby **********

Toby **********

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Yes. I got the 90 day in Singapore then bought my multiple re-entry permit at Blue Tree in Phuket.

So that means my current re-entry permit covers me until the 17th April?

Can I get another re-entry permit for the period between the 17th April 2nd May?

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Tod *********

Tod *********

@Toby *********

how about you LOOK on the re-entry permit in your passport, it should run out the same date as your 90 day stamp

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Tod *********

Tod *********

you can use the re-entry permit for the trip BEFORE that 'drop dead' date <- when the current 90 day stamp/re-entry permit runs out,

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you obviously can't use it for the trip where you return on the 22nd because that is AFTER the re-entry permit would expire (if in fact it has the same expiration date as your current stamp Apr 17th)

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