The discussion revolves around whether agents can assist in obtaining the O visa with help funds. Most comments affirm that it is indeed possible to work with agents, particularly the Thai Visa Centre, but there are concerns about the rising costs associated with using these agents. Some users suggest that it is feasible to apply independently, highlighting potential savings. There is also a mention of issues related to banking requirements and the possibility of agents contributing to these complications.
Agents charge about 32k for 15 month starter pack. Then 16k or so for annual renewals. The obvious financial advantage being that you don't need 800k in the bank for an agent. 800k at 5% makes 40k annually. Pays for your 16k annual fee and leaves you 24k every year in your pocket. Up to you
although true, it's a hassle. And as you are well aware it's not like you can send it out and back into country without incurring costs that would far exceed the value. Agents make perfect sense to anyone with a tiny bit of financial savvy
except that when entering through BKK with an agent obtained Visa extension I was in no uncertain terms told, by an immigration Officer, to get my extension myself next time.
It's more likely that he does and he also understand how much interest 800k makes elsewhere. My average return on investment over the last 25 years is over 14%. You can't seriously think a decent investor is bringing 800k to thailand, losing on exchange and fees, to sit in a bank at 0.5%. Not a great option.
why does it sound like that lol? It’s beer money. But as they say, a fool and his money are easily parted. What do here with with micro amounts reflects how you handle money in general.
It sounds like you have no clue about the value of time.
I wouldn’t park mine in savings account or FD accounts. Don’t be ridiculous. They don’t even keep up with inflation especially on an after tax basis
I don't see 800k as a lot of money,maybe you do. It's a small part of what I have. You are just another person whining about parking money in a Thai bank like it's the end of the world.
Hi it's the agents causing the issues can you explain hear how that is ? What they are doing to cause the problems
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There is nothing underhand about asking an agent to help you open a bank account, putting your money in it and getting help obtaining the non o at the same time.
also, without agents, there'd be 1000s of pensioners up shit creek, Thailand would be lost without agents, I'll admit some are downright robbing twats, but most a genuine,
If the Thai government were to crack down on these visa brokers, a whole lot of people would be in trouble and a whole lot of people would be saying bye, bye to Thailand.
😂😂😂😂 if the government cracks down on themselves lol? Umm it’s a safe bet immigration won’t be ‘cracking down’ on immigration anytime soon. No good bye Thailand. No trouble. No standing in line. No 800k. All good. Enjoy them. Great service
I’ve just seen a reel from an English solicitor in Thailand. He has stated that you can no longer get a bank account on a Non O visa. I’m not sure how this can be true. To get a 12 month retirement visa you need 800k in the bank but he’s saying you can’t get a bank account unless you’ve got a 12 month visa WTF 😳
" To get a 12 month retirement visa you need 800k in the bank but he’s saying you can’t get a bank account unless you’ve got a 12 month visa WTF " . . . . this is utter bollocks. Kick the advice of the other guy into the bin . . . . You enter on a 90 days non O visa. The visa becomes invalid or "used" upon entry. You are in Thailand on a "stay permit". You get a bank account opened as soon as possible after you entered. You transfer a minimum of 800,000 THB into it. Then up from 30 days before your 90-days stay permit expires (NOT your "visa", you don't have a visa any more!!!) and that's as soon as the 800,000 THB have been sitting in your Thai bank account for 2 months, you apply on Immigration for the "12-months Extension of Temporary Stay Permit Based on Retirement" which is NOT a visa but an "extended stay permit"
Why do you listen to rubbish? And you're not applying for a 12 months retirement visa, you're applying for a 1 year extension to stay based on retirement.
I’ve heard of some people doing pay as you go for medical costs. How is this an option if it’s mandatory to have health insurance? Let me guess. This is where the agents come in 😜
One official requirement for the Non-O-A is the health insurance. The main differences between a Non-O and the Non-O-A is the fact you can only apply for the O-A back home at an Embassy/consulate and you don't need 800k baht in a Thai bank account.
you can apply for the non o in home country by showing the funds there. It gives you 90 days to open an an account in Thailand and deposit the funds there for two months before applying for 12 month extension based on being over 50, married etc. Or is that what you meant?
No, he asked if there was another option, a long term visa based on retirement instead of the 90 days Non-O and the 1 year extension at immigration. The only one is the O-A.
how true. I’m traveling to Thailand in December on a non O with the intention of getting a bank account. So I can transfer my 800,000 thb in over the next 12 to 18 months. Looks like this won’t be happening now
you can still get a bank account opened fully legal if you enter on a 90-days Non-Imm-O visa. If you happen to meet incompetent banking staff, just use an agent. Costs around 5000 THB to get a bank account opened with any of the many agent's in Pattaya. No health insurance requried on a Non-Imm-O, but it might be wise to have secured a good health insurance just for peace of mind
watching some Facebook group I’ve seen guys mentioning they transfer money in to Thailand 3 months before their renewal then once approved transfer back out of Thailand until next approval cycle.
With the continued uncertainty nobody wants to have a Thailand a store of money.
that would not work as the full amount has to stay in the bank for three months after getting the extension and not go below
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0 (for retirement) for the rest of the year. Monthly payments can be spent or sent back to home country but to swap you need to do both for the first year.
You can think that but they’ve just been caught in the crossfire like many other farangs. If you hone in on the word crossfire (and the current border issues in certain parts of Thailand) then you may well be closer to the real reason Thai banks are clamping down on foreign accounts and potential money laundering.
A clue. It’s not your typical Western guy spending his retirement funds in Thailand. They are just pawns in the game.