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What visa options do I have for an extended stay in Thailand given my circumstances?

Manuel ********
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I am a 49 year old man (50 in January). Married to a Thai, registered in the Netherlands and Thailand. I am going to Thailand on October 29 this year and will return to the Netherlands in April next year, this ticket has already been booked. Previously there was a “non “o” multiple entry “ visa available which I used, but this is no longer available. I do not have sufficient financial resources for a marriage visa. What kind of visa can I apply for?I understand from the visa agency that I may be refused entry by the airline and/or the immigration officer when entering Thailand airport in Bangkok because my stay is longer than the permitted 90 days. According to them, this can be solved by a so-called "pro forma ticket". I did not know this term, but this appears to be a fake ticket... I don't feel comfortable with that fake ticket at all. I don't know what my options are now. Hopefully you guys have some good advice for me, thanks.
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The user, a 49-year-old man married to a Thai citizen, seeks advice on visa options for an extended stay in Thailand from October to April. He has previously used a Non-O multiple entry visa, which is no longer available, and lacks the financial resources for a marriage visa. Community members suggest alternatives such as arriving on a visa-exempt entry, extending stay options through border runs, and considering a retirement visa once he turns 50. There are debates over the need for an onward ticket and suggestions for low-cost travel options, emphasizing the importance of complying with immigration regulations.
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Henrik *****
Henrik *****
The need for a onward ticket (Pro forma ticket ) is when the visa or visa excempt period, don’t correspond with the dates on the flight ticket.

Thailand allows you to stay 60 days, and they want you to show them, that you complies to that agreement and show intend to leave Thailand within that period.
Craig ********
Craig ********
it's not a fake ticket, it's a ticket that can be canceled and refunded.
Roel *********
Roel *********
Nu 60 dagen en daar verlengen met 30 dagen. En tsja...dan wordt het een visa run volgens mij
Nongnuch ********
Nongnuch ********
Manuel Manuel . . . You don’t need a visa at all

You can enter visa-exempt, will get stamped in for 60 days. Then on Immigration, you can extend for further 30 days, the fee is 1900.- THB

This will get you until January 28.

The only problem could be the airline, they might want to see an onward travel proof within these first 60 days (a real, cheap one-way ticket out of Thailand or a fake “onwardticket”)

Before the last 30 days expire, visit Immigration and apply for the “60-days extension based on visit family”. The fee is 1900.- THB. You need a freshly printed marriage registry document for Immigration to prove your marriage. It’s called Kor Ror 22 (not to be confused with the Kor Ror 2, which is the rose bordered marriage certificate)

These 60 days would bring you until March 28

Then just do ONE MORE border run, enter visa-exempt and get stamped in for 60 days, again. You return flight is the perfect proof of onward travel in case you do this border run by air.
Jenny ******
Jenny ******
At age 50 you can apply for a retirement visa. Consult a visa agent as soon as you land in Thailand to get everything set up before your birthday. I was able to switch from a visa waiver to the retirement visa without even leaving the country.
Nongnuch ********
Nongnuch ********
@Jenny *****
he said he cannot fulfill the financial proof for neither the application to the marriage visa (400.000.- THB) so he would also not be able to prove 800.000.- THB for an application to a retirement visa
Dennis *********
Dennis *********
why get a "fake" ticket. just book the cheapest one way real ticket to Cambodia "no checked luggage, etc" which when I did it a few years ago was around $70USD. don't assume Thai immigration can't figure out what's fake and what's not! it's not that difficult.
Damo ******
Damo ******
METV, apply in your own country before you depart, gives you upto 9 months here, you have to leave and re enter every 90 days.
Jan ******************
Jan ******************
@Damo *****
You don’t need a METV at 200 USD for just six months when you without any issues can get the same stay with free visa exemption.
Damo ******
Damo ******
@Jan *****************
Maybe his plans change and wants to stay longer, good to have options. FYI METV is 9 months.
Nongnuch ********
Nongnuch ********
@Damo *****
the costs for the METV to reach six months are high.

200.- USD visa fee, 55.- USD a 30-days extension, the expenses for a border run plus another 55.- USD for the last extension.

This sums up to 310.- USD plus the border run

The method I suggested is much cheaper, you save 165.- US Dollar:

*** Visa exempt entry (the onward travel proof for a one-way ticket from Krabi to Kuala Lumpur is 35.- USD)

*** one 30-days extension (1900.- THB) = 55.- USD

*** one 60-days extension based on family visit (1900.- THB) = 55.- USD

*** one border run, visa-exempt entry (no onward travel proof is needed as he already got a return ticket)

That sums up to 145.- USD plus one border run
Jan ******************
Jan ******************
@Damo *****
For three additional months I agree.
Robert *****
Robert *****
So you’ll need 6 months. You could arrive with just a passport and you’ll get 60 days visa exempt. Then extend it another 30 at the immigration office for 1900 baht. Then take a border trip to Lao or Cambodia and on reentry get another 60 day visa exempt plus add another 30 for 1900 baht and you’re at 6 months with no visa. In case someone asks about your return you can book a bus leaving Thailand for $12 online and if asked show the bus ticket.
Ning ******
Ning ******
just take a bus to lao and come back in. *just bring marriage cert" should be ok.
Stephen *********
Stephen *********
Immigration will be fine. The airline may ask for a return or onward ticket. Use a dummy ticket, it is a real flight code, or a cheap budget airline ticket from Bangkok to a near country.
Jan ******************
Jan ******************
Just buy a real ticket to a nearby destination at 40-50 USD. Arrive on a 60 days visa exemption, do a 30 days extension and a border run to re-enter on a 60 days visa exemption and apply for a 30 days extension. As married Thai you can also apply for additional 60 days extension visiting Thai family if your marriage is registered in Thailand.

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