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What visa options are available if my TR visa was rejected due to my visa history?
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Jun 1, 2023
3 years ago
Richard ********
ORIGINAL POSTERI've just been rejected for a TR visa in Phnom Penh .. Apparently because i have too many Thai visas in my passport over the past 2 years ...
Does anyone have any ideas what visa I can get to get back home to my wife and kid in BKK ?
Does anyone have any ideas what visa I can get to get back home to my wife and kid in BKK ?
TLDR : Answer Summary
A user recently faced rejection for a TR visa in Phnom Penh, reportedly due to having too many Thai visas in the past two years. They seek advice on alternative visa options to return to Thailand to be with their wife and child. Community members suggest several routes including entering Thailand on a 30-day visa exemption, applying for a marriage visa (if eligible), or considering retirement and long-term visa options based on age or marriage. There are discussions regarding the implications of multiple visa entries and advice on specific procedures to secure longer-term residency.
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Andrew *********
What is a TR? Sorry if it's a silly question.
Richard ********
ORIGINAL POSTER@Andrew ********
A 3-month Tourist VisaAndrew *********
@Ric****
. Thank you.Reply to
Andrew *********
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Falcon *******
laos Vientiane
Joe **********
PP is notorious for this, Vientiane or Savannakhet always better choices but I believe they became much stricter with checking wether or not you have the right visa for your stay in TH
Kevin *********
Cheap How much you for retirement visa 60 yrs old
John **********
@Kevin ********
a retirement visa costs 2000 baht and an annual extension 1900 bahtJudy *******
@Kevin ********
'Retirement Visa' is from aged 50Reply to
Judy *******
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Wayne *******
my thai wife does retirement visas cheap, we are in hua hin if interested, not far from bkk
Marc ********
@Wayne ******
How much is cheap? I wouldn't mind going to Hua HinWayne *******
@Marc *******
have sent a message to youReply to
Wayne *******
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Howard *******
They really need to add marriage to the ltr visa this is a joke to have to do this
Matthew *********
You may not get a 60 day TR but your automatically entitled to 30 day I’m assuming your uk or Aus
Graham ******
@Matthew ********
there is no automatic entitlement for anyone with a long tourist entry historyReply to
Graham ******
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Jeremy ********
You could always fly in get the 30 day visa waiver free stamp then extend it for 30 days for ฿1,900 at your local immigration office…or you could do a land border crossing get the same 30 day visa waiver stamp then extend it for 30 days at your local immigration office for ฿1,900….these will give you time to figure out a long term solution …good luck
Marc ********
@Jeremy *******
No guarantee they will not deny him at border either.Jeremy ********
@Marc *******
there is no official limit on the number of Air arrivals one can do, however you are correct he could get that one overzealous I/O that says otherwise….Marc ********
@Jeremy *******
Correct but you should know IO will deny you entrance in the kingdom if they think you came too often on visa exemptionJeremy ********
Marc Widmer once again there is no official limit on fly ins…so you’re fear mongering is not warranted…could it happen by an I/O then overruled by the I/O’s supervisor it’s happened many times…nothing is certain and nobody knows
Marc ********
@Jeremy *******
And you really think if an IO wants to deny entrance for me I can just call for his supervisor?😅And you claim the supervisor would over rule the decision of the first IO?
Happened many times? Hahahahah
You are hilarious
Jeremy ********
@Marc *******
they send you to a room where a supervisor talks to you before they make the decision, at that time you can plead your “case” in a very persuasive manner…i take it you have never experienced this beforeMarc ********
@Jeremy *******
No I have never. And I don't intend to have the experience.Regardless of what I strongly doubt the supervisor will change the decision of first IO
And if he does my passport is red flagged for next time
Jeremy ********
@Marc *******
you will be surprised how many are overturned by the supervisor…Thailand is a very easy countryMarc ********
@Jeremy *******
It's your word against many posts I have seen here in the group.And I have obviously not been to the same Thailand as you did
Jeremy ********
@Marc *******
I see I’m dealing with a triggered person who has no real world experience at all…have a great dayMarc ********
@Jeremy *******
Sorry but I am allergic to BS and lies that's allJeremy ********
@Marc *******
o you’re totally triggered with zero real world experience which means you’re a rookie to the world of immigrationMarc ********
@Jeremy *******
Probably I have travelled more than you.I was fortunate never having bad experience with IO in Thailand.
But I do believe the admins and other "experts" of the group rather than you.
You are just ignoring facts. Up 2 u
Cathal ************
@Marc *******
stop. You are so wrong and being schooled by Jeremy. You need to do a hide hoo and admit you're wrong and know nothing about anything.Marc ********
@Cathal ***********
You both are hilarious only relying on theory.In theory you guys are right.
But in reality immigration operates different.
I have seen many posts. So don't tell me BS in my ears please and thanks
Cathal ************
@Marc *******
lesson 1, stop being a prat. Lesson 2, if you don't know about entries stop telling people who do they don't because its embarrassing for yourself 🤥Jeremy ********
@Marc *******
it yet you with zero real world experiences go off of posts on FB made by people clout chasingMarc ********
@Jeremy *******
Good for you knowing my travel history 🤡You
I would bet my money on I have more world experience than you
Cathal ************
@Marc *******
ill bet my stuffed Teddy has seen more travel and others than you.Jeremy ********
@Cathal ***********
not according to @Marc *******
whose right now going into the Interpol databases to see who has traveled the mostMarc ********
@Jeremy *******
No I will ask Prayut to make sure they deny you entrance next time😅Cathal ************
@Marc *******
ask him then. Send an email saying how bad men on the Internet made you look like a t00ser. Threatening with him is hilariousMarc ********
Cathal ************
@Marc *******
you are new to Asia. I'll bet you ig you're daily breakfast and wai lampostsJeremy ********
@Marc *******
buy yet you know my travel history 🤣🤣Marc ********
@Jeremy *******
neither you know mine but throw big words around.Fact is if you do "too many" visa exemptions within a certain period of time they will deny entrance. Period
Ask any admin here in the group
If you want to ignore actual facts up2u
Jeremy ********
@Marc *******
the admins know as much as the rest of us know…they are not the SME’a you put on a pedestalMarc ********
@Jeremy *******
That's why you can afford ignoring facts. Because would not affect you anyway hahahhaJeremy ********
@Marc *******
I’m taking from real life experiences that you, who have already stated you have never dealt with….Marc ********
@Jeremy *******
I have not as I am trying to avoid "abusing" visa exemption system.You don't need to believe me but I know as a fact immigration does care.
They will stopp you. Period
Jeremy ********
@Ma**
please enlighten me with your real life experience of being stopped my immigrationMarc ********
@Jeremy *******
As I said I have not but a friend of mine travelling with me at the same time.Marc ********
@Jeremy *******
I just told you. But you rather want to send GIF's🤡Jeremy ********
@Marc *******
you know nothing but yet you keep going down the rabbit hole into the abysssMarc ********
@Jeremy *******
I know for a fact. My friend got taken to the room.So not sure why you insist and argue pointlessJeremy ********
@Marc *******
now you have a friend 🤣🤣🤣🤣 how convenient for you in this conversationMarc ********
@Jeremy *******
Yes I have a friend. They treathening him not to let him in. That he is abusing the system. Intimidating him.You think if they do this to a legit tourist they wouldn't deny some "suspicious" dudes?
Jeremy ********
@Marc *******
threats are not the same as a denial of entry…he needs to get creative with his persuasive plea of his caseMarc ********
@Jeremy *******
Still dosn't change the fact they might deny him entrance if they think he is spending too much time in the kindom without "the legal" visa.It happened already. Period
Jeremy ********
@Marc *******
then he will need to fly into an different port of entry…it’s that simpleMarc ********
Jeremy ********
@Marc *******
lol lol lol 😂Marc ********
Jeremy ********
@Marc *******
super 🤣🤣🤣🤣Jeremy ********
@Marc *******
just have your “friend” fly out then fly back inMarc ********
@Jeremy *******
ok before I keep having this pointless "conversation" with you...Let me summarize.
You claim one can do as many visa exemptions as one want.
And will guarateed never been stopped and deny entrance by immigration?
And even if so you just fly to another port of entry?
Everything easy peasy right?
Do you confirm?
Jeremy ********
@Marc *******
there is no official number on how many times one can fly Out/In to Thailand…that’s the official answerMarc ********
@Jeremy *******
So this voids your "suggestion" he can "always" fly in if he wantsJeremy ********
@Marc *******
there is no official number on how many times one can fly Out/In to Thailand…that’s the official answerMarc ********
@Jeremy *******
Correct. Still dosn't change the fact IO can and will and does deny entrance.Based of visa exemption and tourist visa.
Jeremy ********
@Marc *******
there is no official number on how many times one can fly Out/In to Thailand…that’s the official answerMarc ********
@Jeremy *******
Because he cannot always. Once a point is exeeded passport will be flagged and will always have problems im future.If you would have paid attention in the group and not only talk and talk then you would know
Jeremy ********
@Marc *******
there is no official number on how many times one can fly Out/In to Thailand…that’s the official answerMarc ********
Jeremy ********
@Marc *******
there is no official number on how many times one can fly Out/In to Thailand…that’s the official answerMarc ********
@Jeremy *******
what? Did you actually read anything I wrote?Marc ********
@Jeremy *******
You are probably an old man with retirement visa not having to worry anything that's why you don't need to care and can speak big wordsJeremy ********
@Marc *******
once again you know absolutely nothing about me..but yet you keep telling me what I am…amazingCathal ************
@Marc *******
you are wrong just accept it. You can border hop or pay an agent to say you volunteer hundreds of miles away in a bird sanctuary. Do you know anything or just in a mood. There are people to talk to with that mood. 300 barfine.Cathal ************
@Marc *******
Cathal O Connell You both are hilarious only relying on theory.In theory you guys are right. So....
Jeremy ********
@Cathal ***********
he’s a triggered Boy Scout talking about things he has zero knowledge on….Jeremy ********
@Marc *******
a person with zero real life experience with the IO’s is telling md that I have not experienced this many times…you’re a Boy Scout and I truly doubt you have traveled more than me….Marc ********
@Jeremy *******
I know there is no "fly in limit"I.have seen many posts of someone being denied.
And it is a fact immigration is getting very strict even making up their own rules.
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Marc ********
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Steve *******
Non Imm O based on marriage
Lindsey **********
@Steve ******
cannot with a Myanmar wifeSteve *******
@Lindsey *********
Obviously! It's a THAI visaLindsey **********
@Steve ******
so why did you suggest non o ?Steve *******
@Lindsey *********
Because I'm not a mind reader and at no point in his post does he say his wife is a citizen of Myanmar. He's asking about a Thai visa to visit his wife in Thailand in a Thai visa advice group. It would seem logical to think his wife was Thai and therefore he could obtain a Non Imm O based on marriage. OBVIOUSLY he cant aquire that visa based on marriage but if he's aged 50 or over he could still obtain the Non Imm O visa.Lindsey **********
@Steve ******
yes I agree with you BUT he mentions several times she is Myanmar so I wondered why you suggested it
Sorry If I offended you
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Lindsey **********
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Jan **********
his wife might not be a thai national but retirement is n option as others have pointed out
Richard ******
Jan Glorieux That would be 15k in Pattaya of no funds in the bank.
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Richard ******
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Ben *******
sent you a PM
John **********
If I were you I'd try and get a Non-O visa before returning to Thailand, either for having a Thai wife or being over 50. You surely run a huge risk of being denied entry to Thailand if you try and come back either on a tourist visa or visa exempt. You simply can't live inside Thailand on tourist visas now.
Richard ********
ORIGINAL POSTERJohn Stanners ... Valuable advice ... With a visa with VOID stamped in my passport, i am worried that they will let me in on a visa exempt
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Richard ******
Don't want to sound like I'm lecturing but if you're married you really should have a marriage visa. If you don't have funds in the bank then you should go to Pattaya and pay a visa agent. Expect to pay between 30-35k .
Rc *******
@Richard *****
his whole family are not Thai citizens so marriage visa is out of the question.Richard ********
ORIGINAL POSTER@Richard *****
....my wife is Myanmar ..and she gets the Non-immigrant visa connected to the school .. from the advice from others in the group, the retirement visa appears the one i need ...John **********
@Richard *******
yes if your wife is not Thai then you can't get marriage visa so retirement visa is the one you wantRichard ******
@Richard *******
A friend of mine got one in Pattaya although living in a different province. Cost him 15k. Good luck!Jack ****************
Phnom Penh is the land border to Cambodia office?
Jack ****************
@Richard *****
he got a 15k retirement visa? It's the first I've heard of funny business with that one and I've just been waiting...Richard ******
@Jack ***************
That's correctReply to
Richard ******
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John **********
@Richard *****
or Laos and get a multi entry marriage visa which doesn't require proof of fundsRichard ******
@John *********
seems like a decent option for those without the funds.Richard ******
@John *********
I was unaware of that option. How long do they last? Might be of use for him.John **********
@Richard *****
they last for one year but you have to bounce out and back every 90 daysReply to
John **********
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Christina ****
How many visas have you gotten so far?
Richard ********
ORIGINAL POSTER@Christina ***
For the first year i was on COVID extension visas ... They stop last September and since then i've left every 3 months for a bit and then returned on a TR. The Embassy in PP started making problems because they gave me a TR 8 months ago .. they kindly made some phone calls but tell me that they are limiting how many times a year a TR can be issuedGraham ******
@Richard *******
So 8 months ago you were warned but you still went backRichard ********
ORIGINAL POSTER@Graham *****
No ... They issued me a visa in the normal way for a visa run .. no hint this was going to happenGraham ******
@Richard *******
"The Embassy in PP started making problems because they gave me a TR 8 months ago .. they kindly made some phone calls but tell me that they are limiting how many times a year a TR can be issued" - sounds like more than a hint to meSacha ****
@Richard *******
cant stay forever on tourist visas, there is a reason there is multiple visa options for different purposes. This was always going to happen to you at some point.Reply to
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Rosfield ********
@Christina ***
I'd also like to know. I have two visa exempt entries from late last year and currently on a 60 tourist (plus extension). Might need to do exempt if my business visa doesn't come through on time.Reply to
Rosfield ********
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Jeff *******
Use thai visa service advertised on here for fast track entry at immigration, saves you problems again there! come in visa exempt and use your time to get a longer term visa, plenty of options!
Will ************
Enter 30 day visa exempt, extend for 30 days. Apply for 90 day Non-o based on marriage, immediately open bank account and deposit 400k baht . Extend for 1 yr after money has been in for 2 months on day of applying for extension. Repeat extension yearly
Braulio *********
Good advice from Garrett and Wayne. Multiple Visas , wife and child, doesn't seem like a tourist
Richard ********
ORIGINAL POSTERMother and daughter have non-immigrant visas as my kid is at school ...but they only give this visa to one parent ... Hence I was previously on TR leaving every 3 months
James ***************
@Richard *******
- any update ?Richard ********
ORIGINAL POSTER@James **************
... Trying to cross the border today with visa exempt .. will update if successfulJames ***************
@Richard *******
- good luck 👍Richard ********
ORIGINAL POSTER@James **************
... It was remarkably trouble free ...James ***************
@Richard *******
- well done! Stress over until next time......Reply to
James ***************
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Graham ******
@Richard *******
So your wife and child is not Thai which means you need a Non-O over 50 (retirement)Richard ********
ORIGINAL POSTER@Graham *****
... Thanks for this ... From others in the group, this looks the best option ..Reply to
Richard ********
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Todd *********
At over 50 and married to a Thai, you certainly have many realistic visa options available to you. Set yourself up for the long term visa of your choice. Marriage, Retirement, O-X, LTR, Elite.
Richard ********
ORIGINAL POSTERNon-immigrant ... As my kid (UK) goes to school in BKK, my wife (Myanmar) gets the visa connected to the school... For some weird reason only one parent gets the Non-immigrant visa ..
Maxim ***********
@Richard *******
Enter by LAND only, do not fly in to BKK airport on visa exempt entry u have a high chance of getting denied entry. Avoid Poipet. Enter from Chong Chom (O'Smach). It's a very chill border.Richard ********
ORIGINAL POSTERStories from PP today corroborate the 'denied entry' problem .. i'll look into the O'Smach option
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Todd *********
@Richard *******
have a friend in similar situation with Laos spouse and kid in school here. He used agent (TVC) for easy transition. But you definitely have options. Out of interest, how many Tourist visas have you had? And always from Phnom Penh? Or others… always interesting. I need to do similar with my non-Thai partner but under 50. It’s not always easyMaxim ***********
@Todd ********
Phnom Penh are ruthless regarding this. I got denied twice, second time in 2017, never went there again. Laos, never a problem.Richard ********
ORIGINAL POSTER@Todd ********
i was on covid extensions for a year .. then last September i did a visa run to Cambodia .. three months later went to Nepal for a month and came back on a visa on arrival ... Did a visa run to Myanmar in Feb ... And now this run to PPTodd *********
@Richard *******
very interesting. Have similar issues and have been here since before Covid 😂. Thx for sharingReply to
Todd *********
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Richard ********
ORIGINAL POSTERCheers .. looks like a retirement visa as my wife isn't Thai
Todd *********
@Richard *******
what visa is she using?Reply to
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Vernon *********
@Todd ********
Never assume, makes an ass out of u and me.Todd *********
@Vernon ********
you will never have all the information in life. Critical thinking skills leave the people living by useless idioms in the dust. Sometimes ya win, sometimes lose, but you keep moving forwardReply to
Todd *********
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Vernon *********
@Todd ********
He does not mention he has a Thai wife!Todd *********
@Vernon ********
he mentions he has a wife and kid in BKK. I’m happy to run with the assumption she is Thai. And if not, he has the other possibilities in my answer. 👍Reply to
Todd *********
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Wayne *********
Had to happen, eventually it becomes obvious your not a tourist. That's why I got the OX 5 year visa to avoid this happening to me.
As Garrett advises now go for exempt then the marriage visa.
As Garrett advises now go for exempt then the marriage visa.
Garrett ***********
Enter on a visa exemption for 30 days. Apply for a marriage visa in country.
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