What are the best strategies for successfully passing through Thai immigration while on a TR visa?

Feb 3, 2023
2 years ago
Dmitrii *******
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Hello ๐Ÿ‘‹

I have been living in Thailand since August 2019 using TR visas and covid extensions. This country is my home now. I'm trying hard to get a new LTR visa while struggling with other temporal solutions like border runs and visa runs. I'm really afraid to find myself in the situation where the immigration officer rejected my entry. So, I have a few questions if answered will help me to lift anxiety:

1. Is this true that if you travel with Thai partner you can go together in the same line to pass the immigration control at the airport?

2. Does having TR visa re-entry positively affect passing immigration officer? In my understanding the officer shouldn't reconsider the approval for border crossing if you show re-entry.

3. What should I do in the even of being rejected? As soon as possible fly to another country and try to come back some time after?

Any advice on how to increase the success rate of passing immigration counters is welcome and highly appreciated ๐Ÿ™Œ
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An expat living in Thailand since August 2019 is seeking advice on navigating Thai immigration, particularly when traveling on a TR visa and looking to secure an LTR visa. Key questions include whether traveling with a Thai partner allows couples to pass through immigration together, the impact of a re-entry permit on immigration approval, and actions to take in case of entry rejection. Community members discuss their experiences, suggest long-term visa options like the Elite Visa or marriage, and provide tips for improving chances at immigration, including potential strategies to minimize risks during border runs.
LONG TERM RESIDENT (LTR) VISA RESOURCES / SERVICES
Paul ********
Just get a Proper Visa
Andre ******
@Dmitrii ******
Good Luck to you too!
Dmitrii *******
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Paul *******
well, I'm in the process sir. Waiting for my second LTR application being processed. It takes time, so I have to prepare for my next visa run. Hopefully it's gonna be the last one ๐Ÿคž
Andre ******
@Dmitrii ******
Clear . Thank you
Andre ******
@Dmitrii ******
Also wonder did they check your passport for VISA history? I had a volunteer visa in 2020, a bit worry !
Andre ******
@Dmitrii ******
Do u mean your first application was rejected , you need start all over again to submit a new request ? I guess you can update the new document to follow up whatever new document they need , my request in onging now with many new documents updated already
Dmitrii *******
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@Andre *****
during the application process you might be requested to provide additional documents and fix those previously provided. Once everything is settled they make a decision. My first attempt has failed (was initiated in September 2022) due to invalid tax statement for year 2020. Recently I reapplied providing tax statement for year 2021 and 2022. I think they have to check our legal stay history in terms of violation of the immigration law. I don't think BOI really cares about volunteer visa history, but once you approved there is a stage when your application will be considered by the immigration office - they might have questions. Good luck ๐Ÿคž
Paul ********
@Dmitrii ******
2 per year
Terary **********
Pre-covid you would see people in this group getting denied entry at both land and air immigration checkpoints. Both were rare (in the group, in life I have no idea). If you cross at land border you can go back and find a new land border and try again.

If you're rejected flying you could be sent back you your home country, a country of your choice, or back to the country you came from (I think). I believe you have some influence but not all. When I was doing risky border runs I would cross by land. Another option maybe is to use a smaller airport. I had a volunteer visa. A lot of people were having issues getting through BKK, with volunteer visas. I flew into Phuket no problems. From what I understand Phuket is known to be friendly.

I did tourist visas for few years. Twice I was questioned when coming back. Both times the immigration officer would say 'next time you come back', they knew I was doing a long term stay one tourist visa at a time. One of those officers suggested to me, its best to stay away for a couple weeks at a time, maybe get married, avoid ED visa (because of my age 40+). After that I would travel a few weeks get a new tourist visa, return..

Australia was providing Multiple Entry Tourist Visa to US citizens, maybe others. So I would go to Australia a couple of weeks, pull a METV, return, do border bounces every 90 days (9 months), then repeat.

Post Covid, I am not sure if Australia is still providing METVs or if they are even available anywhere.

What you are doing is risky. Not too risky but there is a risk. Highly recommend you have a plan B.

Make some Thai friends with some influence. I had a friend that clerked for a judge and her father was a police man. She never got me out of trouble with immigration but she did make things easier whenever I had legal issues. I would always tell her when I planned to come back into Thailand so she would wait for my call, if I got in trouble or not.

Eventually I did the wife thing. So far its been ok. If you want to know more about that PM me.
Paul *******
Yes correct, it really depends.
Brandon ************
@Terary *********
it's up to the immigration agent where they let you fly back. The worst option they can inflict is requiring you to return to your passport country. But if they're in a good mood they might let you return to where you came from or another country of your choice. Probably depends on how much you argue and how much of a pain in the ass you're being.

Also Phuket used to be recommended but they're not so friendly anymore. ChiangMai is now the go-to if you're doing a risky entry, and I've heard good things about Krabi but not many flights or accounts for that airport.
Paul *******
@Terary *********
I think Australia is still doing METVs but you have to meet their financial requirements.
Terary **********
@Paul ******
Different Embassy had different rules. I pulled from Melbourne and Sydney (I think). Some are more tough than others.
John-Paul ******
This site's admin are agents... good reliable agents with good reviews... why not actually ask them. They will have the answer as well as the ability to actually help you rather than those who say "They think" or " They used to...". Just talk to the administrators of this site...simple.
Robert ********
Your long-term options are an Elite Visa or Marriage. The Bangkok airport in particular is going to get REALLY on you. I was able to do like you for about a year (before covid, I've been here 5-years now) before I got an ultimatum from the Bangkok airport immigration. I almost had to get sent back to Malaysia where I was doing my visa run.

So really, at your age either cough up $10K to get your first few years of elite visa. Or, head up to Chiang Mai or BKK to get married brother. No one cares if you think this is your home, there is no mercy. :)
Paul *******
@Robert *******
No country can be considered "your home country" or "my country of residence" if you're on a tourist visa anyway.
John-Paul ******
@Robert *******
10 k US? Sure about that? Cost is a great deal more. If anyone says otherwise... they full of it. Besides there are other ways of doing it such as a non-o based on retirement Elite visa and retirement both do not allow you to work. The admins of this site are very reputable agents you might wish to give them a call and ask they can handle both the LTR and a regular Nono retirement marriage or whatever and we'll probably even help you with the elite so it's up to you it's your choice but at least the admins of this site will be able to give you straight answers rather than people saying they think or it used to be or I'm not sure but
Robert ********
@John-Paul *****
It's 300,000 baht to get you you started. I don't have it, I don't need it. You wouldn't believe the deal I have on my immigration even if I showed you. But I have lived here 5-years and I have seen the gold elite card of the person who paid 300,000 baht or as I say $10K to get started. You have to call them, go and talk to them and there are options. If you have been here any length of time this shouldn't shock you.
John-Paul ******
@Robert *******
i have lived here for 12 years actually full time. Thai elite ain't 300k. To start with as a down payment that I have heard... but then there is the final payment. Nothing shocks me here.
Dmitrii *******
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Robert *******
thank you for sharing your experience. My first attempt of getting LTR was failed due to one invalid document. Now I'm leaning towards getting elite visa. Why did you mention $10K if the cheapest membership is 600,000 THB which is equivalent of $18K?
Robert ********
@Dmitrii ******
they have different kinds of payment options. Best thing is to call them. Because itโ€™s such big money, they will actually answer the phone and talk to you and try to help you figure out a way to do it. A woman who does massage for me has a husband that just did that and thatโ€™s the only reason I know. I guess heโ€™s not legally divorced in the United States and thatโ€™s why he hast to do it this way. ๏ฟผ
Phil ********
Have you actually applied for a LTR visa? Where did you apply?

What's your age and citizenship?

I think you need to return to your home country for a long while... and apply from there.

In the eyes of immigration, I think they'll view your situation with suspicion that you're not a real "tourist"

YMMV

TIT
Dmitrii *******
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Phil *******
yeah, I'm definitely not a tourist and I'm really trying hard to change my status without using dodgy options like Ed-visa. The perfect option for me would be LTR Visa, but my first attempt has failed (Bangkok) and now I have to mess around obtaining required document which is time consuming. I'm a citizen of Russia, 32 years old.
Gordon ************
@Phil *******
But this country is his home now ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚
Braulio *********
@Gordon ***********
LOL, in his eyes
Steve ********
Why is the LTR visa delayed?
Dmitrii *******
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Steve *******
it took 3 months for BOI to process my application and it was rejected due to one invalid document. They suggested to reapply this year once I obtain requested document.
Jo **********
@Dmitrii ******
i had also the same difficulty but managed get through - may I ask what document it was.
Dmitrii *******
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@Jo *********
it was tax statement for year 2020. I have already reapplied adding tax statement for 2022. Hope it'll work this time ๐Ÿคž
Jo **********
@Dmitrii ******
yes i had similar issue my tax document was not translated officially but then resubmitted and got it right away after calling them
Hiro ******
@Dmitrii ******
may I ask what document was invalid my friend? Thank you
Dmitrii *******
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Hiro *****
sure, it was tax statement for year 2020
Hiro ******
@Dmitrii ******
what exactly was wrong with that document? Not in English?
Dmitrii *******
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Hiro *****
the document wasn't in English but I attached the partial translation for the most important part. The main reason of their rejection is that I didn't meet the minimum amount required, despite the fact that I earned more than I paid taxes for (I did provide a prove of it). All this confusion happened because at that year I switched from one taxation system to another.
Hiro ******
@Dmitrii ******
I understand. Hope itโ€™s going well for you now my friend! I also applied for the LTR visa ๐Ÿ™‚
Dmitrii *******
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Hiro *****
wish you good luck ๐Ÿคž
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