What visa do I need to stay in Thailand as an expatriate marrying my Thai boyfriend, and how do I install my baby on my visa?

@Emily *******

The baby WILL be thai whether you're married or not :/ As long as one parent is thai the baby (no matter where it's born) is also thai by birth.

The procedure is different registering the birth of a thai national abroad and you do that AND get a thai passport from the thai embassy in your country BEFORE you come here with the child.

Yeah.. just re-read it again, if the baby is going to be born in England then your going to have to jump through every hoop to register in Thailand although I’m not saying that it’s impossible.. Automatic parental rights are granted upon marriage for male foreigners marrying a Thai woman so if this is the same for the OP then it would seem the most straight forward way. However, get married because you want to and for the sake of your child, if that means that you get a life partner and a happy and well supported child then go for it. Best of luck.

@Bettina **********

it may fall down to where the baby is born then. If the baby was born in Thailand with a Thai father then regardless of marital status the baby would be Thai? Conversely if the mother is Thai and names a foreigner as the father, immigration won’t accept the fathers name on the birth certificate as enough for a visa as the mother can put anyone’s name in it. The father has to go through family court to gain parental rights OR marry the Thai woman. He then is entitled to go down the non o/yearly extension of stay route. But if it’s the mother (and obviously the parent ) then would she avoid this?

That's right, assuming she applies for Thai citizenship for the baby and meets the financial requirements. Not sure how easy / difficult it is to get Thai citizenship for the baby, as she isn't married to her Thai partner yet.

@Marco ********

you mean Bangrak, right? Many foreigners get married there.

The friendliest Consulate for Non O is Savannakhet (Laos), you can check their website.

Be aware your marriage must be officially registered, and looks like being registered in a specific Municipality in Bangkok makes the Visa process smoother

In some Consulates if a foreign woman is married with a thai man, in order to apply for a Non O visa she doesn't need to show any financial proof.

The Non B is only based on Working, The Non O could be based on marriage.

@Emily *******

But since u want to get married, go get a non-O based on marriage (not sure of the name), u'll be able to stay pretty much forever with one extension per year if u meet some financial (400k baht locked in bank account 2 months prior to making the non-O and 2 months prior to extension every year). And i'm not even sure that the financial requirement apply if u are married to ur thai bf, depending on the embassy-consulate.

Then it's a matter of if it's worth it to get a work permit... for a big bank loan on a house, car, etc, they want to see some money coming in and out of ur thai bank acc every month, but the job need to be register so online work not gonna work to be available for a loan.

Another option is to ask a family member on ur BF side to be *guarantee*, so ur BF alone will be able to get a decent loan cause the bank will be protected if u guys run away. + the fact that u are foreigner from (UK?) u get positive discrimination. This is what we did... we have a new car and my GF mother is the *guarantee*. We dealt directly with mitsubishi, they then fill some paper with a few lies about the situation and their finance got us the monthly payment the next day. They visited my GF mother restaurant, mother said that daughter work with her (half-true), and that she make 30k baht per month (lie). This is how things are done here, there no point in not trying to embelish reality and be a *moral warrior*.

I'm telling u about loan and finance because for me because my GF make only like 10k per month selling drink (we live in Issan), I would have to pay house, car, etc, cash, bank won't allow her big loan for that on her salary alone. This is where her family come to play, or u getting a work permit to have 2 salary, anything that will make the bank trust u.

@Emily *******

I got asked the question one time during a Laos border run *why are u border run u been Thailand long time!* or wtv, can't remember exactly. I just said that I have a *thai GF, she is right there! (pointing)*, and officer reply *wife, oh!*, with a big smile!

If for some reason that answer doesn't work, just say that u have *invested money years ago and it work out very well!*. Don't go more into details, doesn't matter if it's stock market, Bitcoin or wtv, stay vague. I've been ask one time in 5 years...

I even make a new passport in BKK canadian embassy recently, last one only lasted 2.5 years before running out of pages. I didn't know what to write under job in the document, I didn't put that I have invested money, I put *unemployed*. Lady then review document with me, I said *unemployed*, she didn't ask any further question. So even if i've been in Thailand for long time she didn't doubt my answer, they can't.

Everybody financial are different, someone could have a rich family, won the lotto, made good investment, work illegally, or have a thai BF-GF that pay for everything. It's nobody business and if officer ask which is very rare there is plenty of answer that will be fine. No need to talk about investment, or gray area, go with the *I have a thai BF and a baby*, 99% of the time there will be no further question.

Emily Hasson 99% of foreigner *working* online don't have work visa and nobody care, it's very hard for them to prove that u are working or to even care, police have more important thing (aka: target) to do. It's even easier if u have thai-bf or gf, they will be asking even less question, if ever.

I have yet to see anyone in trouble for *working online* in Thailand, those who are under suspicions are almost always from africa, middle-east and-or muslim countries, they don't bother european or north-american. This of course is assuming that u don't do anything that could raise suspicion, so whatever u are doing online just keep it mostly to yourself and other foreigner u trust, few thai friends and ur bf.

@Robert ******

'after 1 year you do this again, NO financial requirements needed'... Does this also apply to a foreign male married to a Thai female? Thanks

@Robert ******

pm was about something different, but I agree could be useful to share here too.

Sorry

@Jessica ******************

thought you were admin of the Thai partner group. But I think Carissa Sirikit is?

As you can see, we have female members. And we love to share information, not by taking them to other pages or in PM. So thanks for asking and sharing your information.

@Robert ******

as with everything in Thailand... It depends on the official. It is the list for foreign woman married to Thai men specifically (so not really useful for foreign men married to Thai women), but if there is an interest, I'll ask

@Jessica ******************

to share here?

@Bettina **********

It would be nice to share this up to date list. I assume that this list is valid to all the Immigration Offices inside Thailand?

@Emily *******

sent you an PM :)

@Emily *******

if you get married + non O based on Thai husband it is quite easy. There is an up to date list in the Expat Women with Thai Partners group.

Step by Step, get back in the land of smiles, have a nice wedding, arrange your visa and after that I advice the dual nationality for the baby, That will take time, but it is much easier for the baby if she/he decide to stay and live in Thailand.

Best part is the Immigration Office has a hand out with the requirements, Just pick it up, it is in English and Thai. Tick the boxes and get all the papers together. First time it seems to be a lot of hassle but after a few years you know the list by head and get the needed papers in a few hours,

perhaps 'Smart Visa' option??? no need to have work permits, can stay for 4 yrs.. pay tax as per foreign company., only report per 90 days.. etc.. don't have all the details myself..

OK, you can come into Thailand on a Tourist Visa, get married, than apply for the Non Immigrant O visa based on Marriage with Thai National at your local Immigration office, you will get after some weeks consideration time this visa and 90 days of stay. After 60 days you can apply for the 1 year Extension of Stay at the same Immigration Office with the same documents. Again 1 month under consideration and than you pick up the remaining 11 months. After 1 year you do this again, NO financial reguirements needed from you or your than husband. The baby could piggy back on your visa if you like with a Non Immigrant O visa as dependent but children till 15 years are free for overstay fines.

If it is your boyfriend yes, not if it is your husband. For the Extension of Stay based on marriage there are no financiel requirement for ladies.

You work inside Thailand, so you need the work permit, there is nothing in the rules about company is outside Thailand or work must have something to do with Thailand.

@Bi**

, the group is for people to ask questions and get answers. IF you are unable to respond to a topic by all means pass it by, don't just parrot out "google".

Thanx (y)

@Robert ******

Don't get your grass skirt in a mess. Didn't say that I all. I read this site every day. In my humble opinion, I just wonder why people that are planning on traveling halfway around the world would not get their information from official sites. Nothing wrong with trying to get clarification from this site, . I apologize if I offended you.

Well if you think the advice given here is incorrect, than use the leave this group button. I wish you happy times in Thailand. Goodbye.

@Robert ******

Yes, understand that. But the most unto date I formation comes right from the horse mouth.

@Bill ***********

Because she is member of this page with the purpose to help people with the knowledge and experience of all members.

@Anna ************

I believe that is totally incorrect and as long as one parent is thai the child is thai by birth..

@Emily *******

Yes as long as father in birth certificate.

I was not married have a dependants visa to look after my daughter who was born in Australia.

@Emily *******

have you asked in the Expat woman with Thai partners group about whether your baby can get Thai citizenship without getting married? My guess is, you would need more proof or documentats from the fathers side. Personally I would probably get married before the baby is born because it will probably make your family life much easier.

O Gorman Trevor wrong if the dad isnt thai and the mom is then yes no need to get marry but if the dad is thai and the mom isnt then no. The kid isnt thai unless they get marry

They have to get marry because the Thai one is the Dad not Mom

Emily your marrying will not get you Thai Citizenship not never wont happen. It will allow you to apply for a visa to remain in Thailand based on Marriage. If your baby has a Thai Birth certificate with your Thai Bf's name on it you can apply for a visa as you are looking after a Thai citizen. He is your dependant. As to the babies English Citizenship the UK allow dual citizenship Thailand doesnt but they dont check. It is a Non O visa just the same as if you are married except rather than to visit spouse it is to visit children as in yours.

Getting Married does not mean you get Thai Citizenship. However if the Father is Thai and is on the Birth Certificate then the baby is Thai. I believe the visa you are looking for is a depandance visa. This has more or less the same requirements as a marriage visa.

My bad. Sorry. I just asked a friend. If the dad is thai then u need to be married to get citizenship.

You can. No need to get marry.