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What should I do if my visa extension is denied in Cambodia and I need to enter Thailand?

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Apr 26, 2019
6 years ago
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Help! Denied Visa Extension in Pnom Penh. It was written in small handwriting on the bottom. I just noticed it in my flight to Bangkok leaves in two hours. I am traveling with my Thai fiancé. Should I fly to Bangkok anyway and hope for better results when I arrive?

UPDATE: thank you all for the advice and help. I’ve decided since my girlfriend is with me and since during my last visa extension I put proof of residence into the system, I am going to try flying to Bangkok. I don’t have 20,000 baht on me but I can show my current bank balance which thankfully is over that.

My fiancé is prepared to raise hell if need be so I have a chance. I will keep you guys updated. Thank you so much for all the help.

Final update: I made it through Bangkok immigration. They let me in but told me that I need to change my visa
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A user faced a visa extension denial in Phnom Penh shortly before flying to Bangkok. After receiving advice from the community, they decided to travel to Bangkok with their Thai fiancé. They reported they managed to get through immigration, despite the stress and complications surrounding their situation. This incident sparked discussions on visa regulations, the significance of having sufficient funds to support oneself in Thailand, and the long-term staying patterns that can affect visa approvals.
Maxim ***********
Also I suggest that everyone avoid the two BKK airport (and Phuket) when entering Thailand they are cracking down even if u have a valid tourist visa.
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Maxim ***********
Kyle Gawley Well its not a card my GF travel with me and we have been together for many years + it is the real reason why im in Thailand (still).
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@Maxim **********
 I've always been in two minds about playing this card at immigration.
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@Steven **************
 i'm always traveling with thai GF, they ask me reason sometime why i'm in Thailand and I point to thai wife the discussion always end here. It may help a lot to have a GF.
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Steven ***************
Rumours yes. . They prefer you fly home because you wont be denied entry. And most have a return flight anyway and can change the flight date.

Most people caught in this situation are broke or trying to circumvent the visa system and thats why they dont want them entering.
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Sergejs *********
@Steven **************
 ... to "elsewhere" is at full discretion of IO 😉 And recent rumours / info is that they does insist on flying back to a passport issuing country.
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Maxim ***********
@Steven **************
 Ok so if u are denied u can book a ticket to whatever county? Good to know.
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Steven ***************
The detention centre is inside the airport. It has beds and showers etc. Youre not locked into it unless you have caused trouble. If you need to obtaun a flight home or elsewhere, they escort you to the ticket desk to do whats needed to get you out of there asap. Its not even close to a prison. Its not a crime to be denied entry.
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Steven ***************
One question at a time please..
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Maxim ***********
@Steven **************
 I know I'm heading to Mukdahan atm for 2th border run this year. Looking for good option for the next 6 months after that.
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Sergejs *********
@Steven **************
 those who are rejected are put in a kind of detention facility in immigration outpost, that's true if word "prison" can be synonymous to "detention" in this context
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Maxim ***********
@Steven **************
 What are the people report of being detained overnight and deported the next day for? I read that more and more often lately.
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Steven ***************
Yes you can. But its restricted to 2 times a year by land and they can still choose to deny you entry.

They dont give a shit how you leave thailand because you are leaving.
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Maxim ***********
I have avoid BKK for more then 3 years. I'm not risking getting deported i'm freaking Canadian its 25h+ flight and I have a Thai GF long time.
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Maxim ***********
Steven de Blaquiere No i mean fly to Cambodia and enter Thailand by land in a easy border like O'Smach. The Original Visa for Cambodia u fill the paper in Cambodia before facing immigration little boot.
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Steven ***************
Maxim. You csn choose to go to Cambodia if you have a ticket and whatever visa/ exemption is required. But you cant do it by land from the airport because you need to enter thailand to do that.. youve been denied entry to be in this situation.
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Maxim ***********
I'm Canadian I have never had to show anything entering any SEA country ever. I always could do a VOA everywhere even some like Malaysia u don't need any VOA. The VOA you fill it on arrival before passing immigration.
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Steven ***************
Of course not. But most airlines wont board you if you dont have a visa/exemption/permission to enter that country. A visa is permission provided you meet all other requirements on arrival.

Example... my Thai wife cant enter Australia without a visa and return flight. Wont even let her board the plane there without one. But you can still buy the ticket because the onus is on you to have the correct visa (permission)
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Maxim ***********
Straight forward question but if they denied u entry in DMK can you choose to buy ur own ticket and go to Cambodia or wtv and enter by land? Was under the impression that they will bully you into sending you to ur home country.
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@Steven **************
 What does permission mean? A flight ticket doesnt really qualify for a permission.
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@Steven **************
 Are u talking about the 2 months in advance funds in $ for extension or what?
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Steven ***************
You mentioned not having 800k mate, not me..😂
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Steven ***************
You can choose the destination if you have permission/visa to go there.
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Maxim ***********
No I mean the thing u need in bank acc not the requirement to get one. In Savannahkhet u can get nonO based on marriage without showing any funds.
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Steven ***************
NonO visa based on marriage is 400k mate.. not 800k. Or 40k proven income a month.
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@Steven **************
 Not jail but that little detention room at airport where u can appeal or they just process you before deportion. I dont think u can choose ur destination at that point?
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@Maxim **********
 . I called him a fukn clown in a group post..😂 booted me for that.

Tod Daniels tried to reverse it but he wouldnt allow it.

He tried to say that people that get refused entry are put in jail and have their passport taken, which is totally false.
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@Steven **************
 I don't know what the right visa is I have a thai GF (long term) ive been here for long time. Right now we are in the car heading to Mukdahan for 2th border run of the year (and last). My only options after that are doing tourist visa 2 more time this year get an Ed Visa or Non-O based on marriage and border bounce every 90 days because obv I dont have 800k baht.
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Maxim ***********
Steven de Blaquiere I am probably one post away from being out of main group too. I'm challenging him everyday he think every single rejection is fair and no one with proof of funds ever got rejected. I keep telling him that officer will tell you a bogus fake law (180 days fake rule) never ask for funds (nor care if u show them) and then check-box proof of funds and at that point its too late except if u appeal and get stuck there for 4 days.
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@Steven **************
 Good news is it seem like they will modify business visa later this year. I will be so happy if they have freelance visa.
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Steven ***************
And i agree. Business visa setup is a total joke here.
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Steven ***************
Dont get me started on Robert Lagas... hes a wanker. Booted me from his group for proving him wrong on this exact topic. I agree with most of what you say .

All im trying to say is

1. Get the right visa and people wont have as many issues.

2. Compared to many other countries, its not that difficult if you follow the rules.
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@Steven **************
 The business visa is flawed as fuck we both know it. Cambodia is a total shithole but yet its so easy to run a business and get the proper visa for it.
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@Steven **************
 Plz there already one Robert Lagas :( If you are less than 50 years old there is not many options that fit ur purpose of stay.
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@Maxim **********
 .people that try bending the rules to stay in a country long term get caught eventually. We would all expect our own countries to do the same.
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@Steven **************
 Yes proof of funds is the biggest reason but ironically the second reason is having the funds but getting denied for... not having the funds! They have to check-box something.
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@Maxim **********
 . Thats correct. But the people that still get denied are the ones bouncing in and out on exemption or tourists visas too much instead of getting correct long term visa and got caught out eventually.
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@Kyle *******
 Persistence if ur best chance.
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@Brahim *****
 It doesn't matter u are denied entry. Some people have proof of funds, onward ticket, hotel booking, everything and still get denied in BKK. The onward ticket is just a criteria to make it easier but officer can still say no.
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@Maxim **********
. How do you know most of them had proof of funds? Did you ask them all? Thats the biggest reason people get denied entry on a TV.
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Steven ***************
If you have a return ticket and can't get entry , you can change the date to the next available flight home...

Only restrictions are cost and availability.
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Kyle ********
Garrett is there any steps to ensure that you can book a ticket somewhere else? I think that's the biggest problem about being denied and sent back on an overpriced 20 hour flight, rather than just heading over to Vietnam.
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@Maxim **********
 i mean in a period of time before your visa expire
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Maxim ***********
@Brahim *****
 How can you have flight ticket home for that day if u try to enter Thailand?
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Maxim ***********
Garrett Greenwald Inaccurate, you don't have final word about where you go next when you are refusing entry.
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@Maxim **********
 its interesting i mean what if one has a return ticket home? I find it quite absurd honestly
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@Brahim *****
 Its up to the airline, they can also send you back where you came from.
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@Maxim **********
 so by this you mean they deported them?
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Maxim ***********
@Brahim *****
 A rough estimate.
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@Maxim **********
 100 people?
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Maxim ***********
You have no choice 2 days ago they rejected more then 100 people at DMK most of them had proof of funds. Get in from Pattaya and take the Bus (1h?).
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Maxim ***********
Hello Robert it's Max! Told u last time at ur restaurant that PP = bullshit they denied me twice (2013-2018), the 2th time I was living in Cambodia for a year and even the agent could not do anything. PP is to avoid at all cost when it come to Tourist visa for Thailand. I believe that u still can do 2 border run this year, i'm currently heading to Mukdahan for my 2th and last border run of the year. You should either do an ED Visa and learn Thai or get married and do a Non-O run in Savannakhet they dont ask for proof of funds. After that you can either border run every 90 days on that Non-O based on marriage or have tons of money in bank acc.
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Brahim ******
Glad you made it
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Sergejs *********
...PP embassy assholes issued you this not saying a word in explanation...?
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Mint ****
Hard to speculate but apparently you have been spending too much time in Thailand on tourist visas, I think it would be best to go back to your home country and apply for a visa, IOs don't really like people hopping over to neighbouring countries for tourist long term visa
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Azharuddin **********
Denied- Long & Frequent stays in thailand with tourist visa
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Michael ********
Dont raise hell smile and be nice
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Steven ***************
That goes for both your missus and immigration too.
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Dave *******
If you have a house three business and some vehicles it’s definitely not the smartest thing putting them in her name.

You could have done things properly before it even got to this.

Better hope she actually does love you and doesn’t get you kicked out on purpose.
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@Robert *******
 excellent
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Steven ***************
Is she with you right now?
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@Rob***
 there is some hope then.!
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Derek ***********
Robert Pruitt lucky guy. Why you didn't get a business Visa?
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Chelsea *********
Border jumps are getting harder now. Especially for Americans. Sad, but true. Get a legal long term visa or consider your options elsewhere.
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@Steven **************
 Not mad about it. It's good
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@Chelsea ********
. Theyre cracking down on all foreigners. Not just Americans. Too many dodgy foreigners and agents making it harder for the legit ones.
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Chelsea *********
Garrett Greenwald The way it was explained to me here is that there are. I'm here on a long term visa and they threw the book at me during my last renewal.
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Steven ***************
Youve been using tourist visas too much and too long and its finally caught up with you is my guess.

The hand written note on your visa says exactly that.
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Steven ***************
So they are her businesses but your money . Big difference. No Business visa for you that way unless you are a legal partner. Marryng a thai will halve the capital needed and halve the thai staff required and you can legally open a business on a spouse visa with her.
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Steven ***************
Dude. If you are serious about being here long term , register your businesses properly or marry her and get the right long term visa that way.
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@Robert *******
 . You have 3 businesses here but no B visa???
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Robert *******
I read, Long and frequent stays in Thailand... I can’t read the rest
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Michael ********
I had that i work offshore so few weeks away and few weeks back. Even though i showed them visas from other countries worked in. In the end had to get marriage visa.
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Brahim ******
This looks like a revoked visa. Best is to fly now but book prior a flight back to your home country is my advice and have
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Robert Pruitt 30 days
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Brahim ******
Robert Pruitt the money is to prove you can take care of yourself while in the country. I mean its beyond stupid but that can be asked. The ticket home should be usually doing the job to enter. I often flies to thailand on my time off from work. I always have a ticket home that i show at immigration and it always did the job. Hope your situation goes well.
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Robert *******
Did they revoke your visa?
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Robert *******
Take it somewhere where they don’t read English, like Thailand. Bahah
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Sergejs *********
Garrett Greenwald it is a way how they document in your passport visa denial!
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Michael ********
@Robert ******
 looks like it but nobody signed it and you think why issue then deny
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Michael ********
You have money on you to prove you can support yourself
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Steven ***************
So is it a daily limit or withdraw limit?? Have you tried 5000x4 yet?
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Michael ********
Girlfriend no bank account ?
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Derek ***********
Robert Pruitt you don't have a Google voice number?
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Michael ********
@Robert *******
 bummer
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@Robert *******
 it will be a limit set from your bank it can be changed
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@Robert *******
 . Your only quick option from here is 30 day exemption entry as a USA citizen. Youll need to fly in, have 20k baht in cash or equivalent and a ticket paid for showing you will leave in 30 days or less.

Your chances are very slim still because your passport is flagged with a tourist visa denial. You will.probalby need an O or E visa to get back in long term.
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Steven ***************
Try drawing 5000 four times..
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@Robert *******
 . What does credit have to do with your own personal savings??
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Steven ***************
Call your bank and have the daily minumum raised. Thats normally the only reason.
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@Robert *******
 doubtful though when they did it with me they let me go through to ATM and withdraw the money.
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Robert *******
It looks like you just got a visa. Why are you trying to extend with 3 months remaining?
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