What should I do after being denied a 30-day extension on my tourist visa due to lack of space for a stamp?

Jan 6, 2018
7 years ago
Phil *******
ORIGINAL POSTER
I was denied my 30 day extension for tourist visa yesterday on last day of my visa due to 'lack of space for sticker on my passport. I had 2 spots available but they said it can't even touch another visa stamp. Anyone had trouble with this before or proposed solutions. Now that my visa expired, can I go back and try again Monday (and just pay late fines if asked)? I'd like to avoid a costly last minute visa run. Any suggestions?
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The user experienced a denial of a 30-day extension for their tourist visa due to insufficient space for a stamp in their passport. They wonder about options to resolve this issue and other users suggest various solutions including applying for a new passport, considering border runs to countries like Burma, Malaysia, or Hong Kong, and paying any overstay fines. There is also caution against passport tampering and discussion around the policies of Thai immigration.
Tod *********
like people suggested you could border bounce at a border with burma or malaysia (those only gets 4 stamps; exit to thailand, entry/exit to burma and entry to thailand). It'd by you 30 days.

Right after that I'd go apply for a new passport.
Michael ********
Why let your passport get to this late stage and then blame the IO for being unfair. Take responsibility for your own actions and when you are down to the last 2 pages or page, order a new passport. Asking them to squeeze stamps in between other ones is not a reasonable request.
Richard *********
Let us all know what happens please. This is first class ignorance... We would all love to know what happens to you! Good and bad please. I hope it all works out for you but please tell, haha!
Ivan ************
Do a border run to a country that just stamps and doesn't require a full page visa- i.e. Myanmar or Malaysia, or if you can take a flight Hong Kong doesn't even stamp you at all so won't waste any space at all. Cambodia may also be an option if you get the e-Visa, I have done Cambodia with an e-Visa before simply as I was running out of pages and didn't have room for the normal visa. There is one more extra stamp for the Cambodian e-Visa though, but it's smaller than a visa.

If it's COMPLETELY jam packed, go to Hong Kong. One stamp out of Thailand, one stamp back in, no stamps from HK.

That will fix your immediate overstay issue. I don't have your passport in front of me but you should almost certainly be able to come back as border stamps are a lot smaller than the extension stamp and so they will fit those in if you had nearly enough room for the extensions. In my experience the border immigration are also less picky on this, they will squeeze them in. Then when you get back, apply for a new passport.
Jason ******
I learned the hard way after being denied at Laos border when I thought I had 3 blank pages in my US Passport. The IO told me it says "Endorsements" on it and they will not place a Visa sticker on that page at the border. I got this sorted out by getting a new US Passport at the embassy now with 52 pages for $110.
Joe ***********
Despite what others may say... I have know of people who used steam or some other method and removed old Laos Stickers (these Lao stickers always have companion small stamps - so no chronological data is totally missing). But up to you.
Jules **********
@JD ******
555 JD excellent, love it, nice to know your not all sweetness and light, great info
Robert ********
JD, I'm sure you mean well as you have given great advise here, but steaming off a visa sticker to make room in your passport is misrepresenting yourself and considered fraud, as you surely know. Getting caught would be some serious consequences, if or when the person is caught. Just because it has been suggested in other visa groups does not make it a recommended course of action, as I'm sure you would agree.
Joe ***********
I put the remove the old Loa stickers idea out there for those who wish to consider the pros and cons - totally a personal decision. Plausible denial - 'I have no idea how or why the page is open. My passport gets damp from sweat and humidity'... Totally up to the individual to weigh the level of costs and lost time and lost visas or extensions. This idea is all over the various visa sites including Thai Visa. com
Ivan ************
@Ph**
@J*
I considered this a few years ago when I had a really full passport, and researching it I heard some bad stories. It will be fine of course if no-one notices, and most of the time they probably won't, but if someone does notice, you could be in for a REALLY bad time (like detained or deported bad time). I would not risk this.
Robert ********
I would never advise tampering with a passport or the visas within.
Phil *******
ORIGINAL POSTER
Some useful advice. :) Thanks man!
Jeremy ********
New passport is needed...they all say 14 days but in reality you will get it around 10 days ...
Richard *********
Your only option from what you have said is to apply for a new passport. You will then have to pay an overstay fine. If what you are saying is correct you do not even have room for an exit stamp let alone an entry stamp to another country or any room for a TR visa. Pretty sure this is your only course of action. (Would love to know what airline allowed you to travel here in the first place?)
Robert *******
You started the question with: Extension is denied due to lack of space. Did you blank out some stamps in your passport to make space? I hope you did not. If there is no place for the stamps, even when you go back later there will be no space for stamps. If you apply for Extension after expiration of the Visa, Immigration may give you the Extension starting from your last Admitted to Stay date plus overstay fines for the days you are to late.
Ivan ************
Robert they aren't all that strict. I have stamps that are definitely slightly overlapping other stamps, and they are there because I specifically asked them to do it and they did. They won't stamp right on top of another stamp but "touching" for sure, I have overlaps and Thai Immigration put them there with a slight overlap at my request rather than stamping the 2 completely blank pages I had at the end but wanted to keep in case I needed a visa. YMMV naturally but because one immigration was like this doesn't necessarily mean they all will be, some will be more helpful/pragmatic if the stamp will basically fit.
Robert *******
It would touch some other stamps a bit means: There is no room for the stamp. The Immigration was not unnecessarily strict, but I wish you good luck. Please report what the decision is of next visit.
Robert *******
I hope you realize an extra stamp in your passport is needed now. Stamp is for overstay and paid the fine of 500 Thb a day.
Phil *******
ORIGINAL POSTER
Thanks for info. There is room for the stamp, just it would touch some other stamps a bit. So I think they were being unnecessarily strict. I think I just got the wrong guy maybe. I'd like to try again before I commit to a border run.
Phil *******
ORIGINAL POSTER
So what happens if you apply for a 30 day extension a few days after your Visa has expired?
Ivan ************
You pay the 500B overstay for the days you are over and then they will do the extension as normal. I think it still runs from your stamp expiry though. If the office was closed (i.e. your stamp ran out Sunday or a holiday) they will do the extension the next working day and will not charge the overstay.
Robert *******
a Full passport. Only option is to apply at your Embassy for a new passport and that will take about 2 weeks. a Border run will be cheaper than the overstay fines.
Ivan ************
The borders are less picky about this in my experience, I have got them to REALLY squeeze stamps in, into very small spaces. I have a load of pages in an old passport completely filled with 8 stamps per page, mostly from Mae Sai / Tachileik. Also a border run stamp is typically much smaller than a visa extension stamp.
Robert ********
If you have a USA Passport where the last pages are marked "Endorsements", then you have no choice but to apply for a new passport. Immigration will only stamp on pages marked "Visas"...
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