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What should I do if my US marriage certificate and daughter’s birth certificate are not accepted for my Non-O visa application in Thailand?

Oct 8, 2025
7 months ago
Ashanti ********
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Visa question, applying for a Non-O. Already in Thailand.

The Immigration in our town says they cannot accept my US marriage certificate or daughter’s birth certificate because it has not been approved by an embassy.

Documents have local and state seals. Any suggestions on what we can do next. Without leaving Thailand and applying outside.

Thanks in advance
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The user is seeking advice on how to address the refusal of Thai Immigration to accept their U.S. marriage and birth certificates due to lack of embassy approval. Suggestions from other users include getting documents authenticated by the U.S. embassy, translating them with an approved service, and obtaining legalization from the Thai Ministry of Foreign Affairs in Bangkok. It is noted that registering the marriage at an AMPHUR office is essential for processing the Non-O visa extension applications.
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Michael ********
Get it translated and certified by MFA
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Eric ********
I do not have any family
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Phirom *******
You can order certified copies via VitalChek, have them authenticated by the U.S. Department of State, then legalized by the Thai Embassy in Washington or LA. A family member in the U.S. can handle this for you, and once done, get them verified by the MFA in Thailand.
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@Phirom ******
Yes, you can order from VitalChek, but still need to get the Authentication/Legalisation from the State Level before sending to Washington, DC for Federal Level Authentication/Legalisation
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@Dca ****
That’s why you need a family member to help send the papers where they need to go. My in-law in California handles it for me — I just order the document from VitalChek and follow the steps after that.
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@Ashanti *******
So, for clarification, this is for:

Non–O Trailing Spouse and Trailing Child Visas/Extensions at the Local Thai Immigration Office and the Local Thai Immigration Office wants:

Legalised/Authenticated/"Apostille'd" copies of USA documents:

County Marriage Certificate and County Birth Certificate already Authenticated/Legalised up to U.S. State Level, but not yet up to Federal Level by the federal U.S. Department of State (U.S. State Department) in Washington, DC and subsequently by the Thai Embassy/Thai Consulate in America ???
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Ashanti ********
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@Dca ****
hi!

If there’s an additional process to my documents being authenticated in my home town in the state of Texas. No they haven’t.

These are original documents obtained at court house from marriage, and birth certificate which is just mailed from state of Texas . They have specific seals.

But that’s all
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Todd *********
I’m Aussie but had to take my originals to Bangkok Aus embassy, got my passport, marriage and birth certs certified there, then had to get them translated and MFA stamped for immigration
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@Todd ********
I am Aussie, my situation is much lighter.

Marriage in Thai 25 years ago. Translation of that document made my family gain permanent residence in Japan, no reporting no humiliation.

Our daughter born in Bangkok.

Own my own condo.

90 days non O visa, via an agency (Thai Visa Center, TVC, a great agency).

Still (12 months arranged via the TVC, other things not related to them) , it took 2 months to get Yellow Book (wife and daughther have Blue Book).
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Ashanti ********
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@Todd ********
I was given a list of countries and mine wasn’t in there . thank you again! I really appreciate all the feedback!
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Ashanti ********
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@Todd ********
apologies, they won’t authenticate my documents.
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Ashanti ********
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@Todd ********
thank you for the feedback. I’m understanding that it’s the US Embassy that won’t do these things. So I’m at a standstill. 🙃
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Todd *********
I did the embassy step myself (Aussie) but I believe they can do the whole thing for you

Hope this helps
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@Ashanti *******
There are places that will do the whole service for you (MFA and translation)

I will see if I can find the info

I only received my docs back 2 weeks ago
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Eric ********
The us embassy does not validate gov document
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of course the U.S. Embassy will certify original U.S. documents !!
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Eric ********
I thought th same thing nope
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The documents are no US documents, that is the the question here.
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@Greg **********
no they will not
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@Eric *******
can you provide more details please?
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Eric ********
@Ashanti *******
i got email us embassy will not not certify any documentsnot even ssa
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so what can he do? Any hint on what he can do to get the marriage documents officially certified ?
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Ashanti ********
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@Eric *******
Thanks, I’m seeing that that’s the issue. It appears my option is to extend my Tourist visa, and send my documents back to the US to be authenticated.
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Eric ********
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not nessary you can use an attorney
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Ally ************
If you were married overseas.. meaning not in Thailand.. then the first step is to get a copy of the original marriage certificate certified by the Embassy (or sometimes it's a service performed by the Consulate) of the country where your marriage took place.. for most people that's likely to be their home country.. so you may be able to do this before you leave for Thailand.. however, you could have had a vacation style wedding of course, which would need to involve a foreign Embassy in the process.. but if you are already in Thailand then things are slightly different.. first step, your overseas marriage certificate has to be authenticated by the relevant country Embassy in Bangkok before you can move on to the second step.. which is getting a copy of the original (now already Embassy certified) marriage certificate translated into Thai and getting the translated copy certified by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs (also in Bangkok) .. only then will you have the correct documents to be able to register your marriage at your local Amphur in Thailand.. which is necessary to obtain a Kor Ror 22 (another certificate) from them.. which is a document you will need to support your non-o married visa application at Immigration.. given the complexities and inconvenience involved in this process I'd say it's probably best to engage an agent who knows the ropes and can expedite this for you.. we are in CM and didn't want to waste our time and energy traveling to Bangkok in person.. so we found an agent that specialises in translation services that could do everything for us and produce the certified marriage documents.. this process took them around 2
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weeks from start to finish and we agreed to attend the final document collection at the International Convention Center in CM to reduce the wait by a few days.. otherwise it would have been a 3-week wait.. the fee was just over 5,000 baht in total.. and they threw in a translated copy of my passport for good measure.. which wasn't needed by the Amphur to register the marriage but i guess it might come in useful later.. be aware that your Amphur may try to retain the original certified copies instead of simply taking copies of them for their records.. which is outrageous imo since you may need to use them elsewhere in the future.. and you won't want to have to repeat this exercise and incur further unnecessary expense.. i pushed back hard and told our Amphur they could only keep them if they gave me a legal undertaking to return them if i needed them.. or alternatively, agreed to pay an agent the necessary fee to produce another set for me.. and after deliberation and consultation with superiors they backed down and simply took copies which they had us certify as genuine copies!
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@Ally ***********
hello, sorry to say! A marriage between TWO FOREIGNERS cannot be registered on a Thai Amphur ! . . the Kor Ror 22 is a marriage registry for a marriage between a foreigner and a Thai citizen . .. The OP should have mentioned it much earlier that he is talking about a marriage between two Americans
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@Greg **********
I had understood that the spouse was Thai.. my comment was clearly on that assumption!
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Greg ***********
@Ally ***********
mine too. And then at one point he mentioned "we are two Americans" 😂😂 MADE MY DAY
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Ashanti ********
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@Ally ***********
thank you for the information. Yes I’m already in Thailand. Would you happen to have that agency’s information?
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Ashanti ********
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@Ally ***********
thank you for the insight (:
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@Ashanti *******
It seems that i had mistakenly thought your spouse was a Thai national.. and the advice i gave you was based on that assumption.. if you are both American citizens then you cannot register your marriage in Thailand in the manner i suggested.. but i still think your Embassy should be the first place of enquiry in order to seek guidance.
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@Ally ***********
I’m not, I’m outside Bangkok.
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@Ashanti *******
The translation agency we used is in CM so unless you are in a position to make a personal visit with your documents it isn't going to be viable.. suggest you find one in Bangkok.. or you could begin the process yourself by contacting the U.S. Embassy to ask them to notarize your marriage certificate.. maybe they can recommend a translation service locally to get that translated and submitted to the MoFA.
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@Ashanti *******
Are you in Chiang Mai?
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Colin *******
Go to your Embassys Web Site it will tell you exactly what you need to know and do in what order
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Ashanti ********
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@Colin ******
thank you, I’ve gathered that Thanks I need to extend my Tourist visa, and send my documents back to the US to be authenticated.
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Alternatively you can get your original marriage certificates translated by an embassy accepted translation office, and then legalized by your country's embassy in Bangkok, and then "co-legalized" by the Thai Ministry of Foreign Affairs in Bangkok (or in their subsidy office in Pattaya). With these documents, you need to REGISTER your marriage inside Thailand on an AMPHUR office. So when you apply for the 1-year Extension of the Stay Permit based on being married to a Thai wife, you will need a freshly printed "Kor Ror 22" marriage registry printout from the Amphur - and this you will need every year for the next application to the extended stay permit
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Ashanti ********
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@Greg **********
thanks for the insight! The original post does say my US marriage certificate.

Not exactly sure what to do now with our tourist visa expiring soon.
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Ashanti ********
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@Greg **********
ah understood!
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@Ashanti *******
this doesn't change anything . . . . . a U.S./Thai couple can have a U.S. marriage certificate if they got married in the USA
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@Greg **********
do these documents pertain to being married in the US? We’re both American. Going to an Amphur and obtaining a Kor Ror 22
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@Ashanti *******
Slim chance getting a US Embassy to certify your docs. They quit certifying docs that the don't have direct access to (like, they can't log into the database and verify it) some time ago.
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@Ashanti *******
a marriage between two foreigners cannot get registered on a Thai Amphur office
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@Ashanti *******
in your home country for a visa application, you can use your original marriage documents. However for ANYTHING you want to apply for at Thai Immigration which is regarding your foreign marriage, you need you original marriage documents translated into Thai, and legalized by your US embassy in Bangkok, and co-legalized by the Thai Ministry of Foreign Affairs. . . . 😎 you should have mentioned EARLIER that both of you are American. Because a marriage between two foreigners cannot get registered on a Thai Amphur office
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@Ashanti *******
The Kor Ror 22 is a document confirming that an overseas marriage is registered in Thailand.
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@Doug ********
hello, sorry to say! A marriage between TWO FOREIGNERS cannot be registered on a Thai Amphur ! . . the Kor Ror 22 is a marriage registry for a marriage between a foreigner and a Thai citizen . .. The OP should have mentioned it much earlier that he is talking about a marriage between two Americans
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Your documents have to be authenticated by the Thai embassy in your home country and then verified by the MFA in Thailand. You'll have to get an agent to do it for you if you don't want to go back to do it yourself.
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@Brandon ***********
would I find an agency in America or a Thai agency that can get my documents verified in America.
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