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What should I do after my Thai visa application was rejected for unemployment status and lack of an employment certificate?
Thai visa applicationvisa rejectionMuay Thai training visaincome source verificationexpat adviceThai Embassy MunichUnemployed vs. Retired statusfinancial security for visaapplication processrental income proof
Jun 6, 2025
a year ago
Steph *****
ORIGINAL POSTERHi
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i got my application rejected from Thai Embassy in Munich. I applied MuayThai and put a cross in the box unemployed, as i live from rental income. After a week they wanted to see a certificate of employment, which i don´t have of course. So i sent them a copy of my tax return form to show them my yearly income. Some days later i got the rejection without any further comment. Unfortunately i cannot reach anyone on the phone or via e-mail to find out what the problem was. Does anyone know if it makes sense to apply again and fill in maybe different or what is best to do? Thank you for some advice.
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i got my application rejected from Thai Embassy in Munich. I applied MuayThai and put a cross in the box unemployed, as i live from rental income. After a week they wanted to see a certificate of employment, which i don´t have of course. So i sent them a copy of my tax return form to show them my yearly income. Some days later i got the rejection without any further comment. Unfortunately i cannot reach anyone on the phone or via e-mail to find out what the problem was. Does anyone know if it makes sense to apply again and fill in maybe different or what is best to do? Thank you for some advice.
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TLDR : Answer Summary
A user shared their experience of having their Thai visa application rejected by the embassy in Munich after declaring themselves unemployed but providing proof of rental income. They expressed confusion about the reasons for rejection and sought advice on reapplying and whether to change their application details. Comments provided insights on selecting the appropriate status, suggesting that identifying as "retired" or specifying landlord might improve chances, and emphasizing the importance of clearly illustrating financial stability. Multiple users suggested contacting nearby embassies and considering alternative application approaches to avoid repeating past mistakes.
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Christian *******
Vous avez mal rempli les cases. Vous dites chômeur et vous êtes rentier. Donc c'est suspicieux. Restez logique dans votre raisonnement cela les rassurera.
Wannikea *********
Which Muay Thai training center did you use, and how long was the course?
Henrik *****
Most Embassies websites very explicitly tells, that you wont get any answers about why a visa is being rejected.
READ THE EMBASSY WEBSITE THOROUGHLY.
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Anonymous ******************
As others said, apply in neibouring country to thailand AND go soft power route. Landlords don't exactly fit into workcation path (unless they set up company to own the property and pay themselves via that) so have very mixed results
Ja***
Maybe they thought the income shown in your tax return was not enough to live in Thailand for 5 years. Or maybe they were confused about the source of income and didn't understand that you will still receive your rental income while you are in Thailand. If you try again maybe upload a cover letter explaining that your rental business is a sole proprietorship and more details about your expected income from it over the next 5 years.
Wannikea *********
Apply in Southeast Asia. Be prepared to show you are financially secure and independent.
James ********
@Wannikea ********
wise advice ✅Reply to
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Elías ********
When my retired mother applies for visas, I (I do the application for her) never chose Unemployed. Always "retired", and if there's no such option, then Other and write retired, if possible. I think unemployed comes with a negative stigma, and also, both my mother and you get a pension, so saying retired is not lying.
Frank *********
@Elías *******
how does he get a pension? He lives from rental income, that’s clearly not a pension. Also, for pensionaries there is NON O and NON OA based on retirement.Elías ********
@Frank ********
good point, I didn't read it properly. The point is to avoid choosing unemployed if one has any source of income.Reply to
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John **********
They do often ask to see how you will support yourself in Thailand. So showing your income from your property and correlating that with your bank account might help. But without them providing a reason it's just a guess
Pete *******
You should not have put unemployed, instead you should have put landlord and provided proof of your rental income.
Steph *****
ORIGINAL POSTERMaybe this would have been better, but the proof i gave them anyway.
Andr *****
@Steph ****
also get bank statements validated by your bank for the last 3-6 months showing your rental income.Andr *****
@Steph ****
still... sounds to me like a formal mistake that you can fix easy by selecting the correct boxReply to
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Christopher ***********
Sounds like incompetent staff.
Anonymous ******************
Do you have enough in your bank account when you showed them?
Steph *****
ORIGINAL POSTERAnonymer Teilnehmer 568 Yeah, i had more than the
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0 Baht and also the MuayThai contract was obviously okay, as they only wanted to see a employment certificate.Rex ******
@Steph ****
Do u need employment cert when apply with softpower?Steph *****
ORIGINAL POSTER@Rex *****
I never heard about that, but from me they wanted it. Weird.Luit *****************
@Steph ****
The thing they might want to know is how you plan to pay for your living while being in Thailand during your Muay Thai training.There is no income requirement, but they might see your source of income unreliable or unrealistic low.
Rex ******
@Steph ****
bcos by the rule employ cery = course certReply to
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Steph *****
ORIGINAL POSTERTim De Vries The problem is, that i cannot get in contact with the embassy. Nobody answers the phone and no reaction on my e-mail.
Christopher ***********
@Steph ****
They don’t want to talk to you. Or anyone else. Unable to justify their actions. If they were a business they would go out of business. There is something you could do. Ask your bank/credit card company for a chargeback. They will contact Thai Embassy in Munich and ask for an explanation. If no response within 30 days you should get your money back. However, there is the possibility that doing so may count against you if/when reapplying.Luit *****************
@Christopher **********
The advice to ask credit card company for a charge back is an advice to commit fraud, which is against group rules.The Embassy did deliver what he paid for, even if he might not like the outcome.
You don't pay for the visa, but you pay for the application process.
Apart from it being fraud, it would most likely also mean a permanent ban to ever enter the country again.
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Greg ********
Try another embassy in a country close to Thailand.
Jordan *****
Unless you find out why it was rejected in the first place, applying again would just be a waste of time and money
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