What steps do I need to follow to obtain a Non-O visa for retirement in Chiang Mai after arriving on a 30-day visa-exempt entry?

Nov 14, 2021
3 years ago
Stephen ************
ORIGINAL POSTER
Arrived into Chiang Mai on a visa on arrival (30days)

Any tips on getting an "O" visa then I'll transfering onto a retirement based visa.

Ie what do i need to do?
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TLDR : Answer Summary
The process for obtaining a Non-O visa based on retirement after arriving on a 30-day visa-exempt entry involves a two-step procedure. First, you will need to apply for a 90-day Non-O visa based on retirement, which requires several documents, including your passport, completed TM 87 form, proof of funds in a Thai bank, and a hand-drawn map to your residence. Once you have the Non-O visa, you can apply for a one-year extension of stay by providing further documentation, such as proof of funds and residency notification. It is recommended to visit the Chiang Mai immigration office for assistance and to have the latest information on any visa requirement changes. Additionally, you might have questions about opening a bank account and the necessity to remain in one residence during the process.
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Dean ********
In regards to the original question - a person arrives on a 30-day visa-exempt and looking to transfer this to a Non-O Retirement Visa. With this scenario, does this person require a round trip ticket or proof of onward travel to enter the country? Thank you
Tod *********
@Dean *******
that is between you and the airline you're flying in on AND the people approving your Thai Pass to get in on.

IF you manage to get a thai pass approved, check in at your airline when you arrive here you won't be asked about onward travel when you stamp in.
Geoff ********
Thank you
@Benjamin *****
for the clear process to obtain Non-O retirement in Chaing Mai. A few questions concerning this process. Is it possible to open and fund a Thai bank account within the first week on a 30-day Visa-exempt entry? The second question concerning the TM 30 do I need to remain in the same residence during this complete 120-day process? I would like to travel and try out different residences during this time period. Thank you.
Ellie *******
@Geoff *******
, You need to check CM immigration office if they require a lease contract for your address on TM30 for your Non-O visa and/or extension. In some provinces, it is in the required documents.

You need to have a long-term contract before you apply if it's the case.

I guess many members of this group would not willingly change the address (TM30) between the visa and extension applications, to avoid unnecessary trouble.
Benjamin ******
@Geoff *******
>The second question concerning the TM 30 do I need to remain in the same residence during this complete 120-day process?

No you do not. Whenever you stay at a hotel, the property owner will file a new TM30, which will replace your existing TM30. After you return to your primary residence, have the property owner submit a new TM30.
Benjamin ******
@Geoff *******
> Is it possible to open and fund a Thai bank account within the first week on a 30-day Visa-exempt entry?

Yes it is. Different banks have different requirements, and you will be verbally rejected a lot. You *WILL NEED*:

1. A residency certificate OR a letter from your embassy saying you live at the specific address

2. Your passport and a copy of:

a. Your data page

b. Your visa page

c. Your entry stamp

3. A minimum opening balance (usually about 1K THB).

However, each bank branch has their own requirements. I recommend asking that question on a local Facebook group.
Kevin ***********
@Geoff *******
I was unable to open a bank account in CM without a Certificate of Residence. It takes 7 days for immigration to mail one to you. Then, depending on how you do it, transferring
*****
0 baht from abroad can take many days. You should plan on getting an extension.
Dave ********
Go to the Chiang Mai immigration office near the airport. They are very helpful and will tell you exactly what you need to do. Also, they have the latest information on visa requirements changes.

It’s too easy when you live this close to the office.
Ken ********
I'll need to do the same thing, but in Phuket, as I need to do the Sandbox. I'm going to try and get a tourist visa online to give me more flexiblity, but not sure if I can from Ecuador.
Dave ********
@Ken *******
in 2014, I attempted to contact the Thai embassy in Quito to obtain any type of visa. They were always either closed or official was out of the office. Never answered phone calls. I ran out of time and obtained a 30 day visa exemption in BKK. Then obtained a student visa, requiring me to leave Thailand then re-enter.

I think all visas require a border run to obtain if you have a 30 day visa exemption, not sure. Others in this group are more expert.

My point, best to arrive with a visa, if that can’t happen, then there are other solutions.
Wendy ************
@Dave *******
do you have an address/ contact? or is the rule of thumb just to arrive there to get a further extension? (in my case 30 days, therefore total of 60 days)
Dave ********
@Wendy ***********
I am not the expert but, if you arrive with no visa you get a 30 day visa exemption. Get to the Chiang Mai Immigration office near the airport as quickly as you can to find out which type of visa works best for you and the process to make it happen. There are some time limitations before you apply for your resident visa, once the visa application is made you are good to stay until complete.

If you want more time flexibility, obtain a tourist visa from your home country before entering Thailand.

The Chiang Mai Immigration office is very helpful in answering your questions, when you visit.
Wendy ************
@Dave *******
thanks for the additional info, really appreciate it 🤩
Benjamin ******
You got your terms slightly mixed up.

1. You did not arrive on a "visa on arrival", you arrived on a 30 day visa exempt.

2. What you'll be doing is is purchasing a 90 day in-country Non-O visa based on retirement, and then once you acquire the visa, you'll get a one year extension of stay based on retirement. This is naturally a two-step process.

* * *

You will (probably) need the following for a Non-O Visa Based on Retirement issued in Chiang Mai:

1. Your passport and a copy of:

a. The data “picture” page.

b. The most recent visa (if applicable).

c. The most recent entry stamp or extension of stay (if applicable).

d. The departure card (“TM 6”) stapled in the passport.

2. A completed TM 87 visa change request form.

3. A copy of the submitted Notification of Residence of Foreigners form ("TM 30”).

4. A letter from a Thai bank showing that 800,000 THB was transferred into the bank account from overseas. There is no seasoning requirements.

5. A hand drawn map to the house where you live written on a special form. Go to the FILES section of the group for a copy of the form used in Chiang Mai.

6. 2x passport sized (4cm by 6cm) photos.

7. A processing fee of 2,000 THB.

You need 21 days or more remaining on your existing “admitted to” stamp. If you need more time, submit a 30 day extension of stay based on tourism (see below).

* * *

After you get the in-country Non-O visa, you can apply for a one year extension of stay based on retirement. You will need the following documents:

1. Your passport and a copy of:

a. The data “picture” page.

b. The most recent visa (if applicable).

c. The most recent entry stamp or extension of stay (if applicable).

d. The departure card (“TM 6”) that should be stapled in the passport.

2. The extension of stay application form (“TM 7”).

3. A copy of the submitted Notification of Residence of Foreigners form ("TM 30”).

4. To meet the financial requirements of either:

- 800,000 THB in a Thai bank account seasoned for 2 months along with a letter from the bank. If renewing the one year extension of stay, the 800,000 THB must be seasoned for two months before applying and three months after the last extension of stay was granted, and for the money not to have been lower then 400,000 THB throughout the calendar year, Or;

- 65,000 THB a month in income to a Thai bank transferred from overseas, Or;

- A letter from the embassy stating the applicant receives 65,000 THB a month in income from overseas.

5. A hand drawn map to the applicant’s residence.Go to the FILES section of the group for a copy of the form used in Chiang Mai.

6. 2x passport sized (4cm by 6cm) photos.

7. 1,900 THB processing fee.

I believe you can apply for this extension of stay when you have 45 days or less remaining on your existing Non-O visa.

* * *

If you need more time to open a bank account to transfer the money in for the in-country Non-O visa, you can get a 30 day extension of stay based on tourism. You will need the following documents:

1. Your passport copy of:

a. The data “picture” page.

b. The most recent visa (if applicable).

c. The most recent entry stamp or extension of stay (if applicable).

d. The departure card (“TM 6”) that should be stapled in the passport.

2. The extension of stay application form (“TM 7”).

3. A copy of the submitted Notification of Residence of Foreigners form ("TM 30”).

4. 2x passport sized (4cm by 6cm) photos.

5. 1,900 THB processing fee.
Stuart *********
@Benjamin *****
you are a genius, amazing reply 🙏
Benjamin ******
Justin Langley for CW, they want it on plain A4 paper and not a special form.
Darren *******
@Benjamin *****
would the above be available for a Non O based on marriage? Doesn’t look as though my Non O applied via the E-visa is going to get here in time for my flight. I have moved one flight already.
Benjamin ******
@Darren ******
Depends on the immigration office and how you're entering Thailand legally (i.e. Visa Exempt/ Visa on Arrival/ Bilateral agreement, etc). To prevent hijacking of this post, can you make your own post?
John *****
@Benjamin *****
what a fantastic reply.
Stephen ************
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Benjamin *****
exactly what i needed, many thanks
Chris ****************
@Reiner ********
can you tell me the difference with phuket for the same procedure please
Kevin ***********
@Benjamin *****
Chiangmai requires one photo only, glued to the form. They will take another photo of you at the counter.
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