What are the steps to transition from a tourist visa to a Non-O retirement visa in Thailand?

Jun 28, 2024
6 months ago
Tod *********
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Chris Ryman

I pulled your comments from the other post as your questions were side tracking what was being asked

๐—œโ€™๐—น๐—น ๐—ฏ๐—ฒ ๐—ด๐—ผ๐—ถ๐—ป๐—ด ๐˜๐—ต๐—ฟ๐—ผ๐˜‚๐—ด๐—ต ๐˜๐—ต๐—ถ๐˜€ ๐—ฝ๐—ฟ๐—ผ๐—ฐ๐—ฒ๐˜€๐˜€ ๐˜€๐˜๐—ฎ๐—ฟ๐˜๐—ถ๐—ป๐—ด ๐—บ๐—ถ๐—ฑ ๐—ฆ๐—ฒ๐—ฝ๐˜๐—ฒ๐—บ๐—ฏ๐—ฒ๐—ฟ. ๐—œ ๐˜๐—ต๐—ผ๐˜‚๐—ด๐—ต๐˜ ๐—œ ๐˜„๐—ผ๐˜‚๐—น๐—ฑ ๐—ฏ๐—ฒ ๐—ผ๐—ป ๐—ฎ ๐˜๐—ผ๐˜‚๐—ฟ๐—ถ๐˜€๐˜ ๐˜ƒ๐—ถ๐˜€๐—ฎ (๐—ฎ๐—ป๐—ฑ ๐˜๐—ผ๐˜‚๐—ฟ๐—ถ๐˜€๐˜ ๐˜ƒ๐—ถ๐˜€๐—ฎ ๐—ฒ๐˜…๐˜๐—ฒ๐—ป๐˜€๐—ถ๐—ผ๐—ป) ๐˜„๐—ต๐—ถ๐—น๐—ฒ ๐—ฎ๐—ฝ๐—ฝ๐—น๐˜†๐—ถ๐—ป๐—ด ๐—ณ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐—บ๐˜† ๐—ก๐—ผ๐—ป-๐—ข ๐—ฟ๐—ฒ๐˜๐—ถ๐—ฟ๐—ฒ๐—บ๐—ฒ๐—ป๐˜ ๐˜ƒ๐—ถ๐˜€๐—ฎ (๐˜„๐—ถ๐˜๐—ต ๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น ๐—ฟ๐—ฒ๐—พ๐˜‚๐—ถ๐—ฟ๐—ฒ๐—บ๐—ฒ๐—ป๐˜๐˜€ ๐˜€๐˜‚๐—ฐ๐—ต ๐—ฎ๐˜€ ๐—ฏ๐—ฎ๐—ป๐—ธ ๐—ฑ๐—ฒ๐—ฝ๐—ผ๐˜€๐—ถ๐˜).

๐—ก๐—ผ๐˜„ ๐—œโ€™๐—บ ๐—ฐ๐—ผ๐—ป๐—ณ๐˜‚๐˜€๐—ฒ๐—ฑ ๐—ฎ๐—ฏ๐—ผ๐˜‚๐˜ ๐˜๐—ต๐—ถ๐˜€ ๐—ถ๐—ป๐—ถ๐˜๐—ถ๐—ฎ๐—น ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฌ ๐—ฑ๐—ฎ๐˜† ๐—ก๐—ผ๐—ป-๐—ข ๐˜ƒ๐—ถ๐˜€๐—ฎ ๐—ฎ๐—ป๐—ฑ ๐—น๐—ฎ๐˜๐—ฒ๐—ฟ ๐—ฎ๐—ฝ๐—ฝ๐—น๐˜†๐—ถ๐—ป๐—ด ๐—ณ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ต๐—ฒ ๐Ÿญ ๐˜†๐—ฒ๐—ฎ๐—ฟ ๐—ฒ๐˜…๐˜๐—ฒ๐—ป๐˜€๐—ถ๐—ผ๐—ป ๐˜„๐—ถ๐˜๐—ต โ€œ๐—บ๐—ฒ๐—ฒ๐˜๐—ถ๐—ป๐—ด ๐˜๐—ต๐—ฒ ๐—ฟ๐—ฒ๐—พ๐˜‚๐—ถ๐—ฟ๐—ฒ๐—บ๐—ฒ๐—ป๐˜๐˜€โ€.

๐—–๐—ฎ๐—ป ๐˜†๐—ผ๐˜‚ ๐—ฝ๐—น๐—ฒ๐—ฎ๐˜€๐—ฒ ๐—ฐ๐—น๐—ฎ๐—ฟ๐—ถ๐—ณ๐˜† ๐˜„๐—ต๐˜† ๐—œ ๐˜„๐—ผ๐˜‚๐—น๐—ฑ ๐—ป๐—ผ๐˜ ๐—ฏ๐—ฒ ๐—ฎ๐—ฝ๐—ฝ๐—น๐˜†๐—ถ๐—ป๐—ด ๐—ณ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ต๐—ฒ ๐—ก๐—ผ๐—ป-๐—ข ๐—ฟ๐—ฒ๐˜๐—ถ๐—ฟ๐—ฒ๐—บ๐—ฒ๐—ป๐˜ (๐Ÿญ ๐˜†๐—ฒ๐—ฎ๐—ฟ) ๐˜ƒ๐—ถ๐˜€๐—ฎ ๐˜๐—ต๐—ฒ ๐—ณ๐—ถ๐—ฟ๐˜€๐˜ ๐˜๐—ถ๐—บ๐—ฒ ๐—œ ๐—ด๐—ผ ๐˜๐—ผ ๐—ถ๐—บ๐—บ๐—ถ๐—ด๐—ฟ๐—ฎ๐˜๐—ถ๐—ผ๐—ป ๐—ผ๐—ณ๐—ณ๐—ถ๐—ฐ๐—ฒ ๐˜„๐—ถ๐˜๐—ต ๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น ๐—ฟ๐—ฒ๐—พ๐˜‚๐—ถ๐—ฟ๐—ฒ๐—บ๐—ฒ๐—ป๐˜๐˜€ ๐—บ๐—ฒ๐˜?

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TLDR : Answer Summary
The user is preparing to apply for a Non-O retirement visa in Thailand starting in mid-September. They are confused about the process of applying for the initial 90-day Non-O visa and the subsequent one-year extension. The initial visa is granted for 90 days upon meeting specific criteria, and they must wait until 30 days before that expires to apply for the extension. Clarifications on bank deposit requirements and the need for a lease before application are sought.
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Tod *********
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@Chris ******
posted

Tod Daniels ok. Thank you.

Iโ€™m 59. No issue there. Do I need the 800,000 baht deposit for the initial 90 day Non-O? And do you recommend I have my 1 year condo lease (BKK address) before applying for initial Non-O.

My only concern now is getting a bank account opened BEFORE applying so I can make that deposit.

Was planning to do things in this order.

1. Enter Thailand September 11 on a tourist visa (from USA). Hopefully 60 day.

2. Lease a condo before end of September.

3. Open a Thai bank account with BKK address. Deposit funds.

4. Let funds mature in bank account for 2 months.

5. Apply for Non-O retirement visa.

While all of that is happening Iโ€™ll get tourist visa extensions and/or leave the country for a few days and return.

Please let me know your thoughts.
Chris *******
@Tod ********
THANK YOU!
Tod *********
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Chris ******
not a problem at all, I wanted to answer your questions and give you the chance to ask more so split this out of the other post

Ask away about any of the process sir,
Chris *******
@Tod ********
As background, Iโ€™ve visited Thailand from north to south 6 times (2 or 3 weeks each time) over the last 10 years.

Iโ€™ve tried to do all of my due diligence. And Iโ€™m absolutely looking forward to retirement in Thailand. Will initially live in bkk and continue traveling around Thailand and other SE Asia countries! Thanks again for your input.
Tod *********
ORIGINAL POSTER
. ๐—Ÿ๐—ฒ๐˜ ๐—ณ๐˜‚๐—ป๐—ฑ๐˜€ ๐—บ๐—ฎ๐˜๐˜‚๐—ฟ๐—ฒ ๐—ถ๐—ป ๐—ฏ๐—ฎ๐—ป๐—ธ ๐—ฎ๐—ฐ๐—ฐ๐—ผ๐˜‚๐—ป๐˜ ๐—ณ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐Ÿฎ ๐—บ๐—ผ๐—ป๐˜๐—ต๐˜€.

In Bangkok you will not need to season the funds for 2 months to apply for the initial 90 day Non-O

The funds have to be in the account on the day you apply

The 2 month seasoning comes into play when you apply for the year extension,
Tod *********
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๐— ๐˜† ๐—ผ๐—ป๐—น๐˜† ๐—ฐ๐—ผ๐—ป๐—ฐ๐—ฒ๐—ฟ๐—ป ๐—ป๐—ผ๐˜„ ๐—ถ๐˜€ ๐—ด๐—ฒ๐˜๐˜๐—ถ๐—ป๐—ด ๐—ฎ ๐—ฏ๐—ฎ๐—ป๐—ธ ๐—ฎ๐—ฐ๐—ฐ๐—ผ๐˜‚๐—ป๐˜ ๐—ผ๐—ฝ๐—ฒ๐—ป๐—ฒ๐—ฑ ๐—•๐—˜๐—™๐—ข๐—ฅ๐—˜ ๐—ฎ๐—ฝ๐—ฝ๐—น๐˜†๐—ถ๐—ป๐—ด ๐˜€๐—ผ ๐—œ ๐—ฐ๐—ฎ๐—ป ๐—บ๐—ฎ๐—ธ๐—ฒ ๐˜๐—ต๐—ฎ๐˜ ๐—ฑ๐—ฒ๐—ฝ๐—ผ๐˜€๐—ถ๐˜.

Yep that can and will be the issue for you. You're just gonna hafta get after it and do the best you can.
Mo *******
@Tod ********
How is one supposed to open a Thai bank account BEFORE applying (initial non O)?
Tod *********
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Mo ******
you get out there and hit bank after bank until you find one that will do it

BUT

This is a visa advice group, NOT a "how can I open a bank account" one,

SO post on a group related to where you live in thailand and ask for recommendations
Tod *********
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๐——๐—ผ ๐—œ ๐—ป๐—ฒ๐—ฒ๐—ฑ ๐˜๐—ต๐—ฒ ๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ,๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ ๐—ฏ๐—ฎ๐—ต๐˜ ๐—ฑ๐—ฒ๐—ฝ๐—ผ๐˜€๐—ถ๐˜ ๐—ณ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ต๐—ฒ ๐—ถ๐—ป๐—ถ๐˜๐—ถ๐—ฎ๐—น ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฌ ๐—ฑ๐—ฎ๐˜† ๐—ก๐—ผ๐—ป-๐—ข?

Yes, the 800k baht needs to be in a thai bank account in your name only when you apply for the 90 day Non-O visa, and in bangkok you have to show that it comes from abroad as well

๐—”๐—ป๐—ฑ ๐—ฑ๐—ผ ๐˜†๐—ผ๐˜‚ ๐—ฟ๐—ฒ๐—ฐ๐—ผ๐—บ๐—บ๐—ฒ๐—ป๐—ฑ ๐—œ ๐—ต๐—ฎ๐˜ƒ๐—ฒ ๐—บ๐˜† ๐Ÿญ ๐˜†๐—ฒ๐—ฎ๐—ฟ ๐—ฐ๐—ผ๐—ป๐—ฑ๐—ผ ๐—น๐—ฒ๐—ฎ๐˜€๐—ฒ (๐—•๐—ž๐—ž ๐—ฎ๐—ฑ๐—ฑ๐—ฟ๐—ฒ๐˜€๐˜€) ๐—ฏ๐—ฒ๐—ณ๐—ผ๐—ฟ๐—ฒ ๐—ฎ๐—ฝ๐—ฝ๐—น๐˜†๐—ถ๐—ป๐—ด ๐—ณ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐—ถ๐—ป๐—ถ๐˜๐—ถ๐—ฎ๐—น ๐—ก๐—ผ๐—ป-๐—ข.

I recommend you have at least a 6 month lease as Bangkok wants you to show you'll be in the city thru the process.
Tod *********
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Chris ******
there is no such thing as a year Non-O visa inside the country.

You have to FIRST get a Non-O visa based on being over 50 (retirement) and that is good for only 90 days,

then you wait until you have 30 days left on that and you apply for the year extension
Gerald ********
@Tod ********
I've just done this as Tod has said, the lady did say to me and the wife to try and add money (100Bht) to your account weekly or 1 time a month, but I don't think this is a requirement just advice from her.
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