What consequences can arise from inadvertently overstaying a retirement visa in Thailand?

@Jorge ***

I do find the phone works best of all the options though. Everyone needs their own method; I agree. We do what we can, but mistakes can still happen. All the judgement is not necessary.

@Ruth ******

"The unexamined life is not worth living"-Socrates. Judgements are a daily necessity. We hope to have all the facts and the clarity of mind to make them. We do not want to rush to a premature judgement. We still have to judge. Am well aware that notes become part of the environment. Myself have been taking notes for decades, the result of technical work, yet seldom go back to them, and as you said, become part of the environment. Still better than "I will remember, it's on my head". Calendars on phones are fine till we lose the phone, calendars on the wall are fine till we throw them after new year's, post-it notes are fine till 10 min after we see them. Still, one has a personal duty to recognize one's own failings and inabilities and take proper measures. Get an admin assistant, a valet, a reminder company, but for goodness sake, do not let immigration remind you. I still think it is horrible to be *forced* to the airport departure lounge, without one's luggage. The IO does not care about one mental's state either. As far as they are concerned, "good riddance". Peace.

@Jorge ***

Socrates did not mean random strangers on the internet 🤣🤣🤣

@Ruth ******

I regret if I sounded like it was ok to judge others, specially random strangers on the internet, but I do state that is is a brutal necessity to judge ourselves, as separate individuals, responsible for ourselves, and take proactive action to prevent tragedy, the result of our own defiance. I personally make it the business of my life to avoid a situation where IO comes to my home to tell me am on overstay. I assume 110% responsibility on that.

@Jorge ***

Of course one needs to be responsible. The OP was simply warning people of what happens.

@Jorge ***

my problem is that I find that when I post notes, they simply become part of my environment. The same is even true of phone notifications. I set the reminder. I’m reminded, but then 10 minutes later I still forget. Young people don’t understand. Someday, they will if they’re lucky(?).

In your entire life you haven't made a mistake as serious as getting a simple deadline wrong? Maybe you're an AI?

@Oliver *********

correct 😂

@Oliver *********

😁☺️😅😜😆

@Dan *******

what’s your point here?

@Dan *******

Don't drink or do drugs idiot!!!!!!!

@Wayne ****

like I say, thank the buddha you aren't cursed by the mental illnesses of addictions. Your naive and dismissive response suggest you have not even experienced addiction in others. You are probably the type to tell a manic depressive to 'snap out of it'.

@Dan *******

you sure make a lot of assumptions.

@Dan *******

so your defending the fact that this person could not input a date 90 days in advance because he was drunk the entire 90 days…. That’s your defense here? Your not making any sense. What addiction are you currently battling?

@David ********

did you remember to check your fridge? Seriously! When I put any signs up to remind me of things, I just get accustomed to the signs. I need to make a conscious effort to check them, which kind of defeats the point, lol.

@Ruth ******

yes. I get that. but I dont need to do reporting any more.

@David *******

It's not learning that is the issue. It's lack of desire/interest, especially when the old ways like diarising (meaning hard copy in a pleasant desk diary work perfectly well). No turning on. That is the key - and not a technological one. So no exposure to unwanted calls, messages and advertising. My dislike of digital routes has nothing to do with technology and everything to do with intrusion. Fascinating revelation though that in this discussion people have jumped to technology fear without at least considering technology dislike. Perhaps I will conduct some research on that, using my multiple Macs and pcs - whilst mostly having my smartphone resolutely turned off. That preserves an atmosphere that is conducive to the levels of thought required. Go out and I reluctantly turn the smartphone on. Worth reading Tchaikovsky (I think the nephew) on Tchaikovsky the composer - loss of concentration so loss of thought trains and possible great work through minor interruptions that were totally unnecessary. With age I think he had the reputation of rather an irascible old man. But I, for one, perfectly take his point. I don't think I've ever totally lost work but losing half a day to a whole day is pretty easy. For what - someone screaming at me in a foreign language I don't understand to buy something I don't want. Yet if I turn off the tones why have the thing on, because I sure as hell am not going to look at it. Always remember that with age we have the great privilege of not having to be on-trend, don't have to do as the next guy, but do as closely as possible exactly what we want. OMG! I still wear deck shoes!!! I like them. I'm not trying to fit with a youthful set, not trying to form relationships, etc.

@Nontiya **********

Indeed. And that is why I 1. Recognise choices. 2. Make decisions without hesitation. 3. And decisions made will always protect my freedom from intrusion as best possible.

@Shayne *********

ha,ha,ha, love it 😆

@Shayne *********

You are so far in the space of not being aged there is absolutely no point talking with you eg "now where is the pencil - I remember having a pencil"................... "Oh bugger, I put it in the fridge". I doubt you've even the slightest grasp of any of that. And likewise the young person in the mobile shop, so a total inability to understand what might be of use to an older person and so explain those features. That includes can they see the phone (bright red is good), can they see what is on the screen properly? Unlikely, but a tip is that dark background works best. Would they know there is a choice of backgrounds, would they be able to change, would they be told by that salesperson - resoundingly NO.