What are the requirements and process for obtaining a Non O-X Retirement Visa in Canada for a Canadian expat and their dependent spouse?

Apr 17, 2023
2 years ago
Joseph *********
ORIGINAL POSTER
Hi kind folks.

50+ Canadian here planning to apply for Non O-X Retirement Visa in Canada.

Questions:

1) How long does the 3million bhat need to be seasoned in Thai bank

account?

2) Does the Royal Thai Consulate here in Canada issue the visa stamp/acceptance papers?

3) My spouse is not over 50, Phillipine passport and is a PR with me here in Canada, how/when does she apply for her dependent visa

Advice and actual experience much appreciated.
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TLDR : Answer Summary
A Canadian expat plans to apply for a Non O-X Retirement Visa while raising specific questions about the requirements: the duration for which 3 million baht needs to be in a Thai bank account, the role of the Royal Thai Consulate in Canada in issuing the visa, and how their spouse, who's under 50, can apply for a dependent visa. Community responses discuss the rarity of the O-X visa, suggest alternatives like the Long Term Residency visa, and emphasize the importance of checking with the local consulate for specific requirements, rather than relying solely on bank deposits.
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Tod *********
@Joseph ********
there are so few people world wide that have OX visas, and even less of them are Canuck, I can't see the benefit of leaving the topic open but as long as it's not getting trolled with bad info I can't see the harm either

I'd say for the hoops you need to jump thru to get that visa you might as well look into seeing if you qualify for the LTR <- Long Term Residency visa..

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you're out nothing by looking into it as well
Joseph *********
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@Tod ********
me and many others don't qualify for the wealthy pensioner. O-X is my only 5+5 option
James ********
The OP has asked to turn back on his post... I have turned it on.

My question ❓❓❓

What is it that you still are awaiting an answer ?

This forum is about obtaining a Thai Visa.

Your Thai Embassy or Consulate in Canada has the requirements for the OX stated on its website.

Fulfill the requirements and you will get the OX Visa for retirement.
Joseph *********
ORIGINAL POSTER
@James *******
I am hoping that someone in the forum has obtained an O-X visa. My Thai consulate in Canada has not been overly helpful in answering my questions as originally asked in my posting above.
James ********
@Joseph ********
the OX Visa is rarely obtained outside of Australia. As the Sydney Australia Thai Embassy does not ever require the 3 MILLION Thai baht be deposited into a Thai bank account in your name only.
James ********
Here's the OX VISA available in Canada.

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Joseph *********
ORIGINAL POSTER
@James *******
yes I have already messaged them in that link & the Vancouver office.
James ********
@Joseph ********
the 3 Million Thai baht needs to be on deposit in a Thai bank when you apply for the OX Visa in your home country
Joseph *********
ORIGINAL POSTER
@James *******
yes I am aware of that, see my original post. My question is how long does it have to stay in the thai bank before I can apply? I know they review & require full 3mb at the 1yr anniversary and then the next 4yrs it can drop down to 1.5mb
James ********
@Joseph ********
Applicant must have a bank deposit of no less than 3 million baht (approximately $120,000 CAD) in Thailand or a bank deposit of no less than 1.8 million baht (approximately $72,000 CAD) and annual income of no less than 1.2 million baht (approximately $48,000 CAD). Such amount must be maintained in bank deposit in full for at least one year, and no less than 1.5 million baht (approximately $60,000 CAD) thereafter.
James ********
@Joseph ********
A copy of bank statement (from Thailand financial institutions only) and a letter of guarantee from the bank with bank’s contact information, showing a deposit of the amount equal to and not less than 3 million baht. Please note that such minimum amount must be maintained at least 1 year after receiving the visa or A copy of bank statement (from financial institutions located in Thailand only) and a letter of guarantee from the bank with bank’s contact information showing a deposit of the amount equal to and not less than 1.8 million baht and proof of annual income of no less than 1.2 million baht.
James ********
@Joseph ********
and as Thai Embassy or Consulate do interpret the requirements for a Thai Visa, including the OX Visa... The experiences of others, unless they are Canadian, is mostly meaningless.

And because of the fact that the Embassy of Canada does issue the Affidavit of Income needed to obtain the Non O Visa for retirement and One year extension of stay as retired, there is NO need to deposit one Thai baht in a Thai bank account. So Canadians choose to get the Affidavit of Income vs depositing the money in Thailand
Stuart *********
OX is rare. I’ve not seen any posts from Canadians who’ve got one - but that doesn’t mean it isn’t possible- it’s just rare.

The consulate may issue a non O visa as a dependent of a long term visa holder (or they may not). No idea if Canada does that. If not when you are over here it’ll mean that that your wife will need to hop over to a nearby embassy to get a Non O trailing spouse visa. Once back in Thailand they can apply for an extension to match yours.
Ellie *******
@Stuart ********
, no non-o dependent to Non-OX. Spouse would get Non-OX for dependent or totally different visa
Stuart *********
@Ellie ******
from their website “In the case where spouse and legal child/adopted child are not eligible to apply for the Category ‘O-X’ (Long Stay) visa, he or she would apply for Category ‘O’ or “O-A”(Long stay) or “ED” (for child) visa.”
Stuart *********
@Ellie ******
ok I’ll stand corrected. Didn’t know they did a OX for dependent. It’s just a rare thing.
Brandon ************
Corrected below in comments, apparently it's only Australia:

An OX Visa obtained from your home consulate is looking for your money in your home country, not in Thailand.
Ellie *******
@Brandon ***********
that's only in Australia....
James ********
@Brandon ***********
Not TRUE.. . it's the OA visa which requires proof of your money in your home country .. not in Thailand.
Brandon ************
@James *******
I stand corrected 🙃
James ********
I debated whether or not to tackle your good question about the OX 5+5 = 10 year Thai Visa for retirement.

As you are from Canada..

May I first Ask....

WHY are you wanting to DEPOSIT 3 MILLION Thai baht in a Thai bank account in your name only ..

WHEN your Embassy of Canada in Bangkok can issue you an AFFIDAVIT of INCOME for you to give to Thai Immigration as PROOF of your MEETING the financial requirements for the Non O Visa as retiree and the One year extension of stay as retired..

WITHOUT the need for any money deposited into a Thai bank account ???
Sefton ********
@James *******
1 year v 10 years.. No brainer IMO.

Once I pass 50 I am 99% going to go this way.. The only reason not is I constantly think I should be working to citizenship and this visa cannot support the required work permit.
James ********
@Sefton *******
do whatever is BEST for your personal situation. I wish you much success.
Joseph *********
ORIGINAL POSTER
@James *******
hi James. I would keep that money in the bank anyway as a safety cushion. Also I need the security of a 5+5 visa, can't afford the Super Elite and can't meet the high requirements of the Wealthy Pensioner.
James ********
@Joseph ********
thank you for your reply. BUT why keep 3 Million Thai baht in a Thai bank account?

Consider the factors involved in getting the money in the hands of your beneficiary if you die while in Thailand and the 3 Million Thai baht is locked up in a Thai bank account.

Thailand does not have a Beneficiary on Death provision for your Thai bank account.

So your beneficiary must go to Thai Probate Court to get access to the funds.

I just did this for a dear American friend of mine who died last July 2022.

The lawyers and Thai Court probate fees were 60,000 Thai baht and took 4 months to obtain the probate court order in Pattaya to release the bank account to the beneficiary.

Normal time is said to be up to 6 months in other Thai provinces.

As this is not a Thai Visa Advice issue. I leave it for you to consider in choosing your path to retiring in Thailand.

And we wish you success and happiness in Thailand
Ellie *******
Detailed conditions vary for each embassy/consulate. You may need to contact exact embassy/consulate where you are applying at to check those detail.

They will issue eVisa on PDF and send you by email.
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