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What are the new visa regulations for multiple entry Non-Immigrant B visas at the Penang Consulate?

Marco *********
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Last news from Penang Consulate,

with immediate effect:

Multiple Entry Non Immigrant B Visa will only be issued to company directors.

All shareholders can only apply for single entries visa.
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The Penang Consulate has announced that the Multiple Entry Non-Immigrant B Visa will now only be issued to company directors, while all shareholders are restricted to applying for single entry visas. This change raises concerns about work permit requirements, specifically the need for the permit to reflect a managing director title for eligibility. There is confusion about whether all types of directors, not just managing directors, are eligible for the multiple entry visa.
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Julia ************
Julia ************
So according to
@Jim **************
the work permit now has to say managing director as well. I’m director in the company papers and shareholder but my current work permit says food&drinks manager because the agency that provides my paperwork once again fucked shit up. Current non-B multiple is good until January but I guess I will need even another brand new work permit now. Already stressing out about this.
Julia ************
Julia ************
In my case, I hold the full 49%.
Joe ***********
Joe ***********
This issue likely come as a way to prevent B Visas being granted to those people holding a small number of company shares who somehow got a Director title - thinking that getting a Mananging Director title would be more difficult
Julia ************
Julia ************
My current job description that’s in the paperwork I hand in with the visa application says “food & drinks manager”. Would need to check again what exactly the wp says, but it has (01) on it.
Joe ***********
Joe ***********
I will have my,Business Assistant (Employee) query the Labor Ministry tomorrow
Julia ************
Julia ************
@Joe **********
I can only say that this is what I had before. For 2 years. Issued in 2015.
Joe ***********
Joe ***********
@Julia ***********
- The Work Permit should not have any title that does not apoear as an allowable title in the Company Certificate. One can bestow title of Master Director I suppose but that does not make it real
Marco *********
Marco *********
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Joe you are quite right: on work permit, along with the word Director, appears a number that can be 01 or 02.

01 is the so-called managing director, who is the only now allowed to apply for a Multiple Entry Non B Visa at Penang Consulate
Julia ************
Julia ************
@Joe **********
I am talking about the work permit. My first work permit after I opened my company said “managing director”.
Joe ***********
Joe ***********
I have a tough time believing this as Mananging is not a word title available in the Company Certificate - where titles begin
Julia ************
Julia ************
@Joe **********
Yes, in the company papers I am director. But according to Jim, to get a 1-year non-B, the work permit has to say “managing director”. Which my old one did. Just the current one doesn’t.
Joe ***********
Joe ***********
There is nothing in any Company Certificate about "Managing" Director. The only title is Director meaning a shareholder with decision making authority I will have it researched however
Robert *******
Robert *******
No need to, even the 1 year Non Immigrant Visa that gives you 90 days of Admitted to Stay on an entry, is valid to apply for an Extension of Stay of that Admitted to Stay based on working.
Julia ************
Julia ************
Sure. Just did not know that. I thought the 1-year multiple is not extendable at all. My tax accountant just prepares all the documents for me whenever I need a new visa and I have been on non-B multiple for 3 years now, so went to Penang once a year to get a new one.
Robert *******
Robert *******
It is possible but you and your employer need to meet all the requirements.
Julia ************
Julia ************
So it is possible to get an extension of stay for a 1-year multiple non-B that I’m currently on? I thought only for the 3-month single.
Robert *******
Robert *******
You visit the Immigration Office on Koh Samui for an Extension of Stay, not agencies/tax accountants on Koh Phangan. And that your visa is expired does not matter, you can apply from 30 days before till the last day of your Admitted to Stay date stamped in your passport.
Julia ************
Julia ************
@Robert ******
Yeah, so probably best to get a 3 month single non-B when my current multiple is expired and then do that. I don’t really trust these agencies/tax accountants here on Koh Phangan. They never really seem to know what is required and what might have changed. All they ever say is “no problem” and then I’m in Penang and “big problem”.
Robert *******
Robert *******
You do NOT need a brand new work permit, you can apply at the local Immigration Office for an 1 year Extension of Stay.
Markus **********
Markus **********
Why why why?
Markus **********
Markus **********
@Tod ********
I agree on that. Instead people will go to other country with there money. Well nothing to discuss. I am just fed up with their bs and I have been here for 2 years only.
Robert *******
Robert *******
@Mar***
, Thailand has none, or a very basis Social Security system. Those who do not work have no money. It is a simple protection of their own people. I find it a very good rule. It is not difficult, you must have 4 Thai Employees to get a Work Permit and if you have the Non Immigrant B, you still must have those 4 Thai employees and paid salary, taxes and SSO, to apply for an Extension of Stay. No rule changes in the last 15 years as far as I know. Only change is that consulates and embassies getting more and more applicants because the company does not meet the requirements of Immigration Office.
Tod *********
Tod *********
@Mar***
It appears the thai gov't wants people doing business here to employ the requisite number of thaiz (at least on paper), to capitalize the business the appropriate amount and to get a yearly extension at the immigration office. :/
Markus **********
Markus **********
@Robert ******
well Thaigovernment who makes it difficult for people who want to do business in Thailand, embassys who have different rules and so on
Robert *******
Robert *******
@Mar***
, not sure to who you refer of being stupid.
Markus **********
Markus **********
@Robert ******
only if you have thai staff if i'm not wrong. My question was more of a "why are they so stupid" kind of thing....
Robert *******
Robert *******
Because you can apply for an 1 year Extension of Stay at your local Immigration Office based on working in Thailand.
Joe ***********
Joe ***********
As far as I know Directors are just Directors - a Managing Director is not an official designation in a Company Certificate
Ellie *******
Ellie *******
Please allow me to ask... Is this already effective today? I know someone who is just a shareholder got Non-B Multiple on yesterday...

Another point is, you said directors, that means all directors, not only MD. Is it right?
Andre **********************
Andre **********************
Joe’s correct. Directors are recognized on DBD. “Managing” “Executive” Directors are titled given and does not show on any DBD.
Ellie *******
Ellie *******
I understand... I would like to know and to be sure if ALL directors can get Non-B multi or not..
Robert *******
Robert *******
Difference in visa. You can get even as employee the 3 months Single Entry Non Immigrant B visa. But as mentioned only company directors can apply for the 1 year Multiple Entry Non Immigrant B visa.
IIlkcan ********
IIlkcan ********
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Tod *********
Tod *********
WOW, that was fast :/

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