Heads up, Vientiane are refusing to grant visas of any type (including tourist) without street addresses in Thailand.
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Currently, the Thai consulate in Vientiane is refusing to issue any visas, including tourist visas, unless applicants can provide a verifiable street address in Thailand. This is part of stricter immigration controls and address verification processes, where immigration authorities may follow up with known addresses. The conversation reveals concerns about the lack of data-sharing between consulates and immigration offices, ongoing checks on foreigner addresses, and the consequences of providing false information on visa applications.
Ron *******
It also doesn't stop them verifying any address if they have a mind too 😊
Ron *******
And I would say the exact opposite that in these days of hightend security a percentage would be. Of course we will never know what occurs when your documents are left BUT I can 100% state here where I live certain departments have been in contact on a number of occasions to ascertain if somebody lived here or not.
Everybody must be aware by now of the information collected from Facebook alone and people prosecuted. It's beyond me why some choose to post the suggestions they do. People assume who are on these groups and open pages. Nobody really knows who the majority are.
Tod *********
On that you are correct, BUT the operative word in your statement is "IF". And if I was a betting man I'd say the paper pushing, passport stamping people at the thai consulates are NOT gonna track down every address given them to see if it's real or not ;)
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Tod *********
As has been pointed out; at the current time the Thai consulates (under the Ministry of Foreign Affairs) and the Thai Immigration offices (under the Royal Thai Police) don't share ANY database or information. Some day they might, but it ain't today that's for sure.
It is also a fact that every entry point into thailand FINALLY got thai'd :O err tied together and share a common data base. That's why when people change passports to get around the warning stamp a consulate gives you ONLY works in the consulate, NOT at the border. That data base shows every entry and exit into the country.
Robert *******
Amazing Thailand. They can use computers, databases and link every entry point. Who would have thought about that.
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Ron *******
Absolutely correct Robert. I've seen my whole history of entry's and exits, hotel reports etc with my own eyes. They showed me going back 10 years and asked if I wanted to see back further regarding a dispute I had with immigration.
Anybody fasifying a visa application imo, needs to be very careful as I would imagine a fraudulent application would get a denial stamp for the foreseeable future if your caught out. A passport change won't help you in that case.
Robert *******
Let's try to explain. Consulate and Embassy are part of Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Immigration is part of Police so other Ministry. That's the reason you still get a Visa if you f.e. black listed, no sharing of information. I'm in Thailand now 14 years, my first extension of stay was paperworks, later a girl was sitting behind a screen with keyboad and a black box on the floor, called a computer and scanning all the papers. Now, when I walk in at Immigration, a swipe of the passport gives all my details on the screen. Those computer systems seems to work. Immigration is ordered to collect the address of all foreigners inside Thailand, your hotel/guesthouse makes the report or the landlord/house owner within 24 hours of arrival. Hotels/guesthouses can do this online. So there is a database filled with your information, date of entry/exit, visa type, passport number, address etc etc. As soon as this information is being shared with Ministry of Foreign affairs and possible access from Consulates/Embassy it will be needed to fill in correct details. This all sounds strange for you guys and girls, but even in Thailand there is progress and knowledge about how to use a computer otherwise than Facebook. Big brother is also going to watch you here.
Robert *******
You're always allowed back, but it could be back to your home country.
Shayne **********
It's onscreen at every border. Just because you use fake addresses on every form you fill in and think you are funny. You may be detained at said border and not allowed back. That would be fun wouldn't it?
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Andrey ********
I also heard that police comes to homes of people staying on ED visa.
Ron *******
Yes. Jomtien immigration when people applying for visa extensions needing to lodge a TM30 thought it was a good idea to write out there own rental agreements. Hence now the need for a copy of there landlords ID and in a lot of cases the landlord needing to attend themselves.
Immigration and these consulates and Embassys are not stupid and know what people are doing. Hence the ever tightening of procedures.
Andrey ********
Any known cases when they really check if person on tourist visa lives at address he filled in the immigration form/arrival card? Otherwise can write any address and forget about it.
Moonjanda ********
Good
Anne *********
True that.
Marvin ********
So now Thai government finds solis in taking fake addresses in order to grant visas, so be it. All in the name of the illusion of security. Hahahaha.
Jan **********
They cross check your input from your side with input from your lodging's side
Robert *******
Finding out that you put false information on your Visa Application could lead to fines, jail and deportation. It is called fraud.
Ron *******
Maybe the answer is to send you back to your country of passport issuing in order to get another visa? How funny would that be?
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Marie *******
They've always been asking that since I started to go there (2 years now ). Nothing new
Robert *******
Before you all came to Thailand, it was normal to inform your local Government your address when moved to other address. Now Thailand Immigration want to know the address of all foreigners and that is a big problem. What and Why do you have to hide?
Julinhio *********
Wasn't it always like that? And don't you have an address anyway??
Jordan ********
Yes been that way for 1 month
David ************
Why wouldn't you have an address unless you live in the street.
Jan **********
You're right Ron, verifiable input not only comes from applicant but also from hotel, GH, landlord.
Ian ***************
So what? Just give any address. Mango Guesthouse 123 Durian Street. Are they going to fact-check it?
David ************
Why would you not have a verifiable address. Are these people living in trash cans and dumpsters
Amadou *****
Hahaha
Ron *******
I wouldn't rely on just putting any address that isn't verifiable of you living there. This is why Jomtien immigration now insist on copys of a landlords ID and in past cases the landlord actually having to attend. A few people were caught out after immigration checked the addresses people were supplying when submitting the TM30 in order to get a visa extension. That scam is now over. Remember they have 24hrs mostly to do a proper check on you and your application. I believe a false declaration in order to obtain a visa is reason for a ban from entering Thailand.
Jonathan *********************
jajajaja durian street that was funny jajajaja
Ian ***************
OK then give a verifiable address, look up some actual guesthouse or hotel.
Ellis ******************************
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You should write that down and report back with results.
There have been reports of immigration officers actually checking the residences you are registered to. I would imagine it all ties in with the new rule of informing immigration every time you move or change residence within 24 hours.
Robert ********
With google, it is not difficult to verify.
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