What are the current rules and recommendations for border bouncing by land in Thailand for visa extensions?

Oct 22, 2022
2 years ago
Tod *********
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ATTENTION MEMBERS

BORDER BOUNCING BY LAND

With more and more people coming to the end of their covid extensions and needing to get on to a new entry stamp we are seeing a LOT of posts asking about border bouncing by land to get a new stamp.

Most we decline because thailand is almost 200 thousand square miles in size :O and where you are in thailand depends on what border you can easily bounce out and back at by land AND your stamp/stay history has a LOT to do with it too.

Keep in mind (no matter what you're being told) ALL land borders with Burma (Myanmar) are CLOSED and foreigners can't get out and back in at those crossings to get a new stamp. (that goes for the boat run down in Ranong with the Andaman Club)

Your success at bouncing out and back on your own totally depends on how many covid extensions you have in your passport, whether you have an ED or Volunteer visa/extension AND whether you took that 7 day get out of dodge "extension denied" week stamp to leave the country. Each one of those things CAN cause you a problem trying to stamp out and back in.

While we don't recommend border bounce/visa run services by name on the group we URGE people (who have a passport full of covid stamps) to post on a f/b group related to where you live in thailand and use a service that serves your area to bounce you out and back. They "pre-grease" the wheel at the border so you don't have issues, that's why they cost what they cost.

Please believe me when I say, this is NOT the time to be stepping over dollars to pick up dimes :O . We get post requests every day of people who did a bounce on their own, picked the WRONG border, had too many of the wrong stamps and now can't stamp back IN to thailand as they were told to go to an airport and fly back.

Malaysia;

We have very little info on bouncing out and back with the southern border crossings with Malaysia. There were problems at the southern borders before covid shut them down about people having to pay an 'entrance fee' to get IN to thailand (and we can't tell if that resumed or not)

Cambodia;

The info we have on the border crossings with Cambodia are AVOID <-(read that as DO NOT GO) to the Aranyaprathet / Poipet border. It is problematic. Ban Laem / Duang and Ban Phak Kad / Phsar Prum are workable borders but bouncing on your own you will be asked for "fees" to get back in. Ban Hat Lek / Cham Yeam in Trat can be finicky, Chong Chom / O Smach in Surin isn't too bad.

They CAN hard line you and say you have to spend a night in cambodia if they want to at ANY of the border crossings before you can stamp back in to thailand.

Lao

There is zero <- as in no issue at all bouncing out and back with any of the borders with Lao, they don't care how many covid stamps you have, if you have uncancelled ED/Volunteer visas or the 7 day stamp, they'll let you out and let you back in

Again, if you're one of the demographics I outlined as far as your stay history and stamp history think LONG and HARD before you decide to bounce out and back on your own

AND

go prepared just in case you're denied entry to thailand and have to make your way to either another border crossing to try again or to the airport and fly back (which has it's own set of risks depending on stay/entry history)

Good Luck people, (y)
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TLDR : Answer Summary
This post provides a comprehensive guide on the current state of border bouncing by land in Thailand as many expats are nearing the end of their COVID-19 extensions. It outlines the status of various border crossings with Myanmar, Malaysia, Cambodia, and Laos. Critical points include the closure of land borders with Myanmar, warnings about specific crossings with Cambodia, and the ease of bouncing back through Laos. The post emphasizes the importance of knowing one's visa stamp history and suggests using reputable services to avoid complications at border crossings.
Maciej *********
Hey if i got my 45days stamp border bouncing in Chiang Khong. Is it the same like 60days tourist visa? I can extend it for another month?
Tod *********
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@Maciej ********
they are two different types of entry entirely BUT both are allowed to get the one 30 day extension for 1900baht
Maciej *********
Polish Citizen (EU)
Eva *********
@Tod ********
Do I understand it right that I would get 45 days visa exempt when entering Thailand by land from Laos? I will come to Thailand next week from Germany, staying 45 days and then traveling over to Laos. After a few weeks in Laos I am going back to Thailand. I always thought you'd only get 15 days entering Thailand via a land boarder.

Cheers Eva
Tod *********
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Eva ********
you are mistaken ๐Ÿ˜• That rule of 15 day entry by land was rescinded back in Jan 1, 2017 ๐Ÿ˜ฎ it's now the same entry time whether you enter by land or air BUT you're limited to TWO land entries visa exempt in a calendar year
James ********
Moderator Ellie prepared this graphic for the BORDER BOUNCE or VISA RUNS...
Tod *********
ORIGINAL POSTER
๐—›๐—˜๐—”๐——๐—ญ ๐—จ๐—ฃ ๐—ฃ๐—˜๐—ข๐—ฃ๐—Ÿ๐—˜

๐—ก๐—ผ๐˜๐—ถ๐—ฐ๐—ฒ ๐—ถ๐—ป ๐˜๐—ต๐—ถ๐˜€ ๐˜๐—ต๐—ฟ๐—ฒ๐—ฎ๐—ฑ ๐—œ ๐˜€๐—ฎ๐—ถ๐—ฑ ๐˜๐—ผ ๐—ด๐—ฒ๐˜ ๐—ฟ๐—ฒ๐—ฐ๐—ผ๐—บ๐—บ๐—ฒ๐—ป๐—ฑ๐—ฎ๐˜๐—ถ๐—ผ๐—ป๐˜€ ๐—ผ๐—ป ๐˜„๐—ต๐—ถ๐—ฐ๐—ต ๐—ฐ๐—ผ๐—บ๐—ฝ๐—ฎ๐—ป๐˜† ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜€๐—ฒ๐—ฟ๐˜ƒ๐—ถ๐—ฐ๐—ฒ ๐˜๐—ผ ๐—ฏ๐—ผ๐˜‚๐—ป๐—ฐ๐—ฒ ๐˜„๐—ถ๐˜๐—ต ๐—ฝ๐—ผ๐˜€๐˜ ๐—ถ๐—ป ๐—ฎ ๐—ด๐—ฟ๐—ผ๐˜‚๐—ฝ ๐—ฟ๐—ฒ๐—น๐—ฎ๐˜๐—ฒ๐—ฑ ๐˜๐—ผ ๐˜„๐—ต๐—ฒ๐—ฟ๐—ฒ ๐˜†๐—ผ๐˜‚ ๐˜€๐˜๐—ฎ๐˜†/๐—น๐—ถ๐˜ƒ๐—ฒ ๐—ถ๐—ป ๐˜๐—ต๐—ฎ๐—ถ๐—น๐—ฎ๐—ป๐—ฑ??

๐—ช๐—ฒ ๐——๐—ข ๐—ก๐—ข๐—ง ๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น๐—ผ๐˜„ ๐˜€๐—ฒ๐—ฟ๐˜ƒ๐—ถ๐—ฐ๐—ฒ ๐—ฝ๐—ฟ๐—ผ๐˜ƒ๐—ถ๐—ฑ๐—ฒ๐—ฟ๐˜€ ๐˜๐—ผ ๐—ฏ๐—ฒ ๐—บ๐—ฒ๐—ป๐˜๐—ถ๐—ผ๐—ป๐—ฒ๐—ฑ ๐—ฏ๐˜† ๐—ป๐—ฎ๐—บ๐—ฒ ๐—ผ๐—ป ๐˜๐—ต๐—ฒ ๐—ด๐—ฟ๐—ผ๐˜‚๐—ฝ

๐—ง๐—ต๐—ฒ๐—ฟ๐—ฒ ๐—ถ๐˜€ ๐—ฎ ๐—ญ๐—˜๐—ฅ๐—ข ๐˜๐—ผ๐—น๐—ฒ๐—ฟ๐—ฎ๐—ป๐—ฐ๐—ฒ ๐—ณ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐—ถ๐˜ ๐Ÿ˜ฎ
Mathieu **********
Just did it in Sadao with a 1 year Non O.

While filling the arr/dep card; a random guy came to ask if I slept one night in Malaysia...

Then no issue until stamping back in Thailand. They took my passport to the office of the boss there I guess; a short interview then I was allowed to come back the same day.

If I didn't have already a visa; they would have sent me back to Malaysia, I guess...
Tod *********
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Mathieu *********
The Southern Borders have been "problematic" long before the covid pandemic closed them 2+ years ago. It's no surprise they went right back to "business as usual" when they re-opened..
Keven ****
Excellent and immensely helpful post. ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿป
Larry *******
Very informative as usual.Thanks Todd.
Mark *********
Great post!!!
Ni**
Recently made a Malaysia border bounce with a visa agency, after 2.5 years of COVID amnesty + 12 COVID extensions.

The wheels were likely pre-greased, because all went swimmingly. ๐ŸŸ

Tuna sandwiches were provided. Back home the same evening!
Tod *********
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Ni**
that's how services that bounce you out and in are supposed to work and that's why you use them (y)
Chris *********
Thank you, really useful post ๐Ÿ™
Steve ********
Perhaps also wise to mention having the "three proofs"
Peter ****************
Yep. Other group:

Poipet problem with not having 20kเธฟ/equivalent money in cash. ๐Ÿ™…โ€โ™‚๏ธ (By the way, it was visa exempt she tried, no visa, so border bounce Poipet, where they want you to stay one night as
@ ************
s already mentiond)
Steve ********
@Peter ***************
Yes that was wrongly reported as a visa run, but was actually a border bounce, so there was some confusion over why the OP was refused
Tod *********
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Steve *******
brings up an excellent point

Remember people ANYTIME you're stamping in to the country on a visa exempt/waiver/tourist visa entry you can be asked for the 3 proofs (AND that you have never been asked doesn't mean there isn't a rule about it on the books)

Those are

proof of funds 20K baht or the equivalent in CASH

proof of onward travel in the number of days you'll be stamped in for

proof of lodging (usually for a couple days BUT can be for the whole time)

Using a service to bounce out and back you won't need to worry about those things (unless you're told to by them) but going it alone you could be asked AND could be denied entry IF you are asked you don't have one of those 3 things
Louise ******
Much appreciated, thanks
@Tod ********
Ian ********
Great informative post. Thanks Tod. ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ
Dannie ***************
Good information, which canโ€™t account for all variables, but it gives realistic choices.
Dannie ***************
@Tod ********
Yes, and that is what is neededโ€ฆtimely information.
Tod *********
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Dannie **************
there's just way too many variables to cover all the bases, just wanted to give an overview of how things are border wise right now

The southern border is the black hole right now with very few posts about people bouncing out and right back at it
Tod *********
ORIGINAL POSTER
Sorry that was long, perhaps people will find it of value
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