What Should I Know About Border Bouncing at Mae Sai with Visa Exempt Entries?

Dec 10, 2019
5 years ago
Tod *********
ORIGINAL POSTER
ATTENTION MEMBERS UP NORTH (CHIANG MAI WAY)

IF you are going to bounce out and back in at the Mae Sai - Tachiliek border with Myanmar and you don't have two 30 day visa exempt entries by land yet this year, AND you're one of the nationalities that CAN bounce out and back there, make SURE you stand your ground if you're told you can't bounce.

I just had someone this week who had one 30 day visa exempt entry by land AND they had also entered at the Nong Khai land border entering on a single entry tourist visa.

The immigration officers at passport control at Mae Sai counted that tourist visa entry as one of the two entries allowed by land in a year BUT that was incorrect.

Thankfully the person called me, sent me photos of their entry stamps and let me talk to the officer at passport control where I pointed out that the one entry they were counting was really a 60 day tourist visa entry by land and didn't count against the two 30 day visa exempt entries by land in a year limit.

At the end the person WAS allowed to bounce out and back to get their second 30 day visa exempt entry and the officer did apologize for not catching it was a tourist visa entry.

SO my advice, know what stamps are in your passport, and if you are in the right hold your ground.

Sorry this was only an FYI post because I just read of another instance of someone being denied bouncing out and back at that border. It's usually an easy, soft touch place to bounce if you're a nationality that is allowed to bounce there.

Also remember it is TWO 30 day visa exempt entries in a calendar year (Jan 1 - Dec 31) so come Jan 1st 2020 the "clock resets" and people will get another two 30 day visa exempt entries by land.
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TLDR : Answer Summary
This post provides important clarifications for expats considering border bounces between Thailand and Myanmar at Mae Sai. It emphasizes the need for awareness regarding visa stamps and entries to avoid issues, particularly for those eligible for 30-day visa-exempt entries. The author details a recent situation where an immigration officer mistakenly counted a tourist visa entry against the limit of two visa-exempt entries allowed per year. Additional commentary answers questions about entry rules for various nationalities and the reset of entry allowances each year.
Michael **********
Nice story with a happy ending.

I'll be doing the border bounce in a couple of weeks to kill my OA and start the Non-O process in Chiang Mai.

Want to confirm the requirements at the border are the same. Anyone having done this in the past month or two. Thanks

$10 USD. No money needed (as in showing 10 or 20k baht)?
Tod *********
ORIGINAL POSTER
that 10 US bill needs to be in pristine condition or they'll just tell you 500baht.

No proof of funds, no onward travel no nothing.
Aaron ********
Thanks for the FYI Tod. I’ll be doing that this next year.
Cess *********
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Justin **********
To be fair, I've found the officers up there to be relaxed and polite, so it sounds like innocent mistake. It's nice to hear he apologized and corrected his mistake. It's never nice to face as the consequences can be quite severe for the foreigners. However, statistically, there will always be a few unfortunate souls who will suffer at some point. He was smart to get in touch with someone who knows his stuff. I know it wouldn't have helped this guy but it's for these kind of reasons why it's always important to check what's in your passport and make sure everything is as it should be.....
Hay ***********
Is there a list of nationalities that can do the border run there? Do you know if South Africans are included in this?
Tod *********
ORIGINAL POSTER
I do know that S/A passport holders CAN bounce out and back at both Mae Sai and Mae Sot. BUT they cannot bounce out and back at Phu Nam Ron in Kanchanaburi province.
Tod *********
ORIGINAL POSTER
This is the list of countries that CAN get two 30 day visa exempt entries by land in a calendar year, BUT I don't know if all of them can bounce out and back in at that border.

Andorra, Australia, Austria, Bahrain, Belgium, Brunei, Canada, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Iceland, Indonesia, Ireland, Israel, Italy, Japan, Kuwait, Latvia, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malaysia, Maldives, Mauritius, Monaco, Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, Oman, Philippines, Poland, Portugal, Qatar, San Marino, Singapore, Slovakia, Slovenia, South Africa, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, Turkey, Ukraine, United Arab Emirates, United Kingdom & United States
Tyler ******
Thank you for this
Brian **********
I think we all need Tod Daniel’s Tel# on speed dial.
Brandon *****
Thanks, Tod. Totally appreciate the work you do for this page (and, beyond) 🙏...
Rory *********
And I assume that with an METV you can cross to Tachilek multiple times within the validity of the visa?
Tod *********
ORIGINAL POSTER
correct because those are entries with a valid VISA and have nothing to do with a visa exempt entry <- entering the country without a valid visa in your passport.
เดวิด *******
Thanks for the info and your support to help other people
Daniel *******
U da man, Tod! ✊🏼
Robert *******
This is the announcement of two times a calendar year
Nick ****
Are you sure the clock resets January 1 for two visa exempt entries per year? Also, does it apply to land entries, airport entries or all entries combined?
Steven *********
2 borders bounces in a calendar year Jan-Dec.

Unlimited exemptions when flying in.

They are not combined.
Benjamin ******
1. Yes, it rests at January 1 for two visa exempts.

2. This only applies to land and ferry entries.

3. Airport entries are "unlimited" with no reset, with "unlimited" as defined by the immigration officer on duty.
Campbell **********
Nice info.
Allan **********
Correct coming in by land to activate your visa doesn't count as land crossing .
Steven *********
Not when activating a visa!
Steven *********
Doesn't count as a border bounce.
Irina *********
Wow, thank you a lot for the info!
Phil *****
Is it still unlimited entries by air for 30 day visa exempts?
Tod *********
ORIGINAL POSTER
in theory yes, in practicality NO.
Ken ***********
Very helpful
Reiner *********
Thanx for this information
Michael ********
Tod Daniels - Great service, I do hope that members of this group appreciate your work on their behalf
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