Is a trailing spouse visa possible for my husband who will be under 50 years old when we arrive in Thailand?

Apr 28, 2022
3 years ago
Sarah **********
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I am looking for information about the so-called trailing spouse visa option. I meet the criteria for the Non O-A. The embassy and consulate websites in the USA all indicate that to apply for any category of Non O visa, the person must be 50 years of age on the date of submitting the visa application. Hubby will turn 50 a couple of months after we intend to arrive in Thailand. Is a trailing spouse visa possible for hubby? Is a trailing spouse visa a Non O? If hubby applies for a Non O, will his age/DOB be an issue?
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The trailing spouse visa is indeed a viable option for your husband, despite his age. It falls under the Non O category and does not require the spouse to be 50 years old. You'll need to apply for this visa based on the main applicant's long-term visa application. However, remember that the trailing spouse visa cannot be obtained while already in Thailand; it must be applied for at a consulate before your arrival.
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Terary **********
I have a friend who uses retirement visa. He tells me there is difference in insurance requirements for retirement visa attained abroad vs those attained locally. You may want to come here to get your retirement visa... But I don't have first hand information. I know the more I deal with immigration the more I like using agents.
Bobby ********
@Sarah *********
From September this year the insurance criteria is changing and the ridiculous "outpatient" component is being removed, although the amount of coverage is rising to three million baht. However, most travel insurance policies are unlimited for medical costs, so even a credit card insurance will pull it up (Previously I used an AMEX platinum 12-month insurance provided by Covermore which cost me nothing). There is also an option to use value of assets in your home country to cover health insurance, if for any reason you are denied insurance (age, pre-existing condition etc). It seems I'm in a minority group who actually believes in being insured, whereas many expats in Thailand go out of their way to avoid having it - their logic defeats me. Perhaps they will rely on GoFundMe when a motorcyclist takes them out!
Dave *********
@Bobby *******
I hear you Bobby. For my mind having healthcare insurance in place for the unthinkable is a no brainer. But then those that don't have a larger wedge in their back pocket. You pays your money/you take your chances.
Terary **********
@Bobby *******
"whereas many expats in Thailand go out of their way to avoid having it - their logic defeats me...."

I dont know. Requiring every type of insurance is kinda ridiculous. I have all the insurance from credit cards, I have medical insurance from my home country, I have insurance from one bank card, and now I required to buy insurance to open another bank account.

When I do need to go see a doctor, suddenly all my insurance is useless. It seems more like a scam to me.
Bobby ********
@Terary *********
If you require insurance to open a bank account, you're being scammed. I've opened five accounts over the years, never once needed insurance, although it's been offered!
Terary **********
@Bobby *******
Its not a matter of 'if I am getting scammed' its a matter of 'how much'.

When I started the journey, 8,000 seems way too much. Two days latter several trips to various offices and needing to go to Bangkok US Embassy, 8,000 seemed quite reasonable.
Sarah **********
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@Bobby *******
Right now the embassy website is saying I need 3 million baht or US$100,000 annual coverage. So far in the US I pay all my medical and dental out of my own pocket, so I consider it worthwhile having insurance for accidents and major medical, but I don’t intend to file a claim for every little clinic visit or dentist appointment, other than for meeting my deductible. I closed my AmEx accounts but I’m wondering whether it would be worth applying for a new card. Have you ever filed a claim?
Bobby ********
@Sarah *********
Sorry yes, for visa applications outside of Thailand you already do need the three million insurance. It's for the in-country extensions that the new requirements commence in September. My insurance has a $100 (Aus) deductible, so small amounts are not covered. I've made two claims in the last 2-3 years. One was not health related, it was for a rental car excess payment (there was no deduction on that, I got the full amount), and the other was actually an outpatient job for a trapped nerve in my lower back, which required scans, physio as well as pain killers etc. The total was around $500 Aus, which I got back $400. I had to pay upfront of course, scanned and emailed the receipts and was paid within a week.
Sarah **********
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@Bobby *******
Very helpful, thanks!
Brandon ************
@Terary *********
most people that do Non-OA do so because they can show the money in an account in their home country rather than open an account in Thailand and let the money sit there doing nothing and losing value with the exchange rates dropping. But the downside is that it has an insurance requirement.
Terary **********
@Brandon ***********
I was wondering about that, if they get the visa in their home country, it's 3 months visa that has to be extend 1 year? Do they not have to show funds when the extend, as they would if the got the visa locally?
Brandon ************
@Terary *********
the 90 day visa is just regular non-O. Yes they need to show the money in their home country to get that, but then if they want to extend it in Thailand they have to have the 800,000₿ here but this doesn't require insurance.

Non-OA is a 1 year multi-entry visa but does require insurance. Each time you enter you get stamped in for 1 year or for as long as your insurance is good for. So what most people do is get the OA, come to Thailand, then near the end of the that year they get a new year of insurance, leave Thailand and come back in and get another full year stamped in their passport. This basically gives them a 2nd year for free.

Then after year 2 they can either transfer the money to Thailand to extend inside country but still must have insurance, or they can go back home and apply for a new Non-OA visa with their money back home and start it over again.
Bobby ********
@Brandon ***********
Pre-covid the OA was by far the best option. No need to transfer unnecessary funds into a Thai bank account, can use your home country insurance, and with a well-timed border bounce get two years stay without having to apply for any extension. Return to Australia for a visit, get a new visa, repeat the process. So easy. And the bonus was I lived for six years in Thailand and never visited an immigration office once. It was brilliant! I yearn for a return to those days!
Sarah **********
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@Bobby *******
That was what we were planning to do, except with extensions after the first 1-2 years. Has something changed so it is not possible anymore?
Brandon ************
@Sarah *********
I would suggest do the OA thing for 2 years. Get that "free" second year by leaving and re-entering right before your visa expires. If after that time you decide you do want to stay in Thailand long term, leave and go to your home country and get a non-O. Or leave and return as a tourist and then convert to non-O in the country. This way you can do your extensions without the insurance requirement after you've had 2 years to decide you love Thailand.
Sarah **********
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Thanks,
@Bra****
, I really appreciate that suggestion!
Brandon ************
@Sarah *********
it was almost impossible to leave and enter Thailand during Covid. But not anymore. Most people don't want to do extensions on the Non-OA because it has a high insurance requirement where the Non-O does not.
Stuart *********
A non O can be issued for a variety of reasons, not just age. A trailing spouse (Non O - Dependant) doesn’t have to be over 50. The main applicant applies for a long term visa (O,OA,X, etc) and the spouse can apply for a Non O off the back of that.

You cannot apply for a trailing spouse visa in country. So if you’re already in Thailand you’d need to visit a nearby consulate to apply.
Sarah **********
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@Stuart ********
Thank you! And do you know whether both applications should be submitted via thaievisa at the same time or is it better if I apply for the O-A first and then hubby applies for the O after I get my O-A?
Pom ********
Pom ********
@Sarah *********
I’m a dependent to my husband. I apply after he received his Visa since they asked for his passport and Visa number.
Sarah **********
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Pom *******
Thanks, that makes sense. Did you apply using thaievisa or were your applications by mail?
Pom ********
@Sarah *********
Thaievisa. Took two weeks to approve my husband application which included one week off for Songkran. I just applied mine this Monday. I created logon ID and checked what they required for documents. They allowed maximum 15 days to upload and submit documents.
Sarah **********
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Thanks for the info,
@P**
!
Pom ********
@Sarah *********
you are welcome
Sarah **********
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@Pom *******
I just went on the thaievisa website to go through the motions of starting the visa applications. For "Purpose of visit", did you select "Visiting or staying with applicant's family resided in Thailand (more than 60 days)"?
Pom ********
@Sarah *********
I just received my visa this morning….only one week.
Sarah **********
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@Pom *******
That's great! Which embassy/consulate did you select? DC?
Pom ********
@Sarah *********
Yes, that’s what I selected.
Stuart *********
@Sarah *********
Sorry that would sort of be specific to where you’re applying from. I’d say apply for both at the same time and see what transpires.
Sarah **********
ORIGINAL POSTER
Ok, will do. Thank you,
@Stu***
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