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How can I fill out the Non-O Visa application if I only have hotel accommodation for 7 days?

Yaoyu ***********
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Hi, I'm applying for Non-O Visa and would like to know how to fill out the online application properly ! My goal is to apply for Non OX Visa ; yet me without a bank account in Thailand, the Thai embassy in France suggests me to enter with Non-O, get a rental, open a bank account, and then switch to Non-OX in Thailand.

I intend to stay in Thailand for 90 days to make sure I can receive Non-OX. Before finding a rental, I plan to stay at a hotel for the first 7 days of my stay........

Is it alright if I only answer 7 days for the hotel accommodation in my Non-O application, without answering where to stay for the rest of 83 days ?? ๐Ÿค”

if not, what is your advice ?? ๐Ÿค”

Again, I will find a rental in Thailand as soon as I arrive ; but at this moment I just have no idea where it will be........Million thanks ! ๐Ÿ™๐Ÿ™
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The user is seeking guidance on filling out their Non-O Visa application, specifically regarding accommodation for their first 90 days in Thailand. They plan to stay in a hotel for the first 7 days and are unsure if they can list only this duration on their application. Comments suggest that it's acceptable to only mention the hotel for the first 7 days, and recommend booking a refundable hotel for peace of mind. Additionally, there is advice against applying for the Non-OX Visa due to its requirements, with alternatives suggested.
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Max *************
Max *************
Do NOT apply for the O-X. If you MUST go for a long stay visa, the O-A is a bit better,but it's imo a no-no because of the mandatory health insurance.
Yaoyu ***********
Yaoyu ***********
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@Max ************
Max, I took your advice, I applied for Non-O ! ๐Ÿ˜ƒ Do you also have insight to the following :

May I change my flight for arrival ?? ๐Ÿค” Because the online application asks me to provide the flight number as well.

Should I enter 7 days (actual hotel booking before finding a rental), or 30 days (total days intended to stay) ?? ๐Ÿค”
Yaoyu ***********
Yaoyu ***********
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@Max ************
Thank you ! ๐Ÿ™ But Non-OA is only good for 1 year.

Other than Non-OX and I am over 50, what other visa would you recommend me ?? ๐Ÿค”

Also, what does imo stand for ?? ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

I don't mind buying health insurance since expats can join their public health care Only with work visa.
Max *************
Max *************
@Yaoyu **********
Start with a 90 days Non-O based on retirement,open a bank account in Thailand,deposit 800k baht and then extend the stay 1 year at the local immigration office.You can then do this annually for 1,900 baht/year. Imo stands for in my opinion. You can always get a health insurance when you're in Thailand. No need for a mandatory one.
Graham ******
Graham ******
@Jay ******
so your agent required no paperwork from you?
Yaoyu ***********
Yaoyu ***********
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@Max ************
You got it right ! ๐Ÿคฃ Check my latest response to Graham and share your thought, please ! ๐Ÿ™
Yaoyu ***********
Yaoyu ***********
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@Jay ******
Thank you for sharing your experience ! ๐Ÿ™ That's what I was guessing, it could be easier than the website or embassy suggests. I can find no one in my life circle with this experience and hence I got all my info from the embassy. ๐Ÿ˜…
Jay *******
Jay *******
@Max ************
because I don't want to waste my time doing paperwork. I didn't work the same job for 40 years to retire and do paperwork. You do what works for you and I do what works for me, it's all good. If you cant afford an agent to do it for you, that's ok. Do what works for you. There is more than one option.
Max *************
Max *************
@Graham *****
He'll return with more questions.
Max *************
Max *************
@Jay ******
If it was was easier than you thought, why use an agent in the first place? If you met the requirements, you just wasted money.
Jay *******
Jay *******
@Yaoyu **********
you can pay for multiple entry when you apply for the one year extension for the non O. I don't think there is a limit on the number of years that you can do the yearly extension. Just received my 1st year extension of my non O. I used an agent but banked my own funds. It was much easier than I thought it would be and much quicker.
Graham ******
Graham ******
@Yaoyu **********
at last, you understand
Max *************
Max *************
@Yaoyu **********
You can extend the stay year after year.If you want to leave for some reason, you just get a single (เธฟ1,000) or multi re-entry (เธฟ3,800) permit at immigration or at the airport. Dead easy. Then you must return before the 1 year extension expires. Otherwise you need to start all over again.
Yaoyu ***********
Yaoyu ***********
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@Max ************
You can extend the stay 1 year with Non-O ?? ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

Up to how many years, can you do so with Non-O ?? ๐Ÿค”

Can you have multiple entries with Non-O, during the year ?? ๐Ÿค”

Wow, this is totally New to me, no wonder everyone says Non-OX is not necessary !

Non-OA is probably not necessary either....
Stuart *********
Stuart *********
The Non OX is only available from your home country (I know it says it can be got in Thailand but Iโ€™ve never heard of a single instance where thatโ€™s happened).

Almost no one applies for it because of the stipulation of 3m baht in a Thai bank account.

The consulate in Sydney is the only one in the world that would issue one with local funds rather than in a Thai bank so I would guess that 99.99% of holders of one got theirs from Sydney.

The first few days of accommodation should be fine. If they ask for more book a refundable hotel and cancel when you have the Non O.
Yaoyu ***********
Yaoyu ***********
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@Stuart ********
Thank you ! ๐Ÿ™

(1) Thai embassy in France suggests as long as I, as American citizen, have the resident permit in France, I may apply for Non-O, -OA or -OX from France.

But other than Non-OX and I am over 50, what other visa would you recommend me ?? ๐Ÿค”

(2) I can enter Australia with visa exempt ; but will I be able to apply for Thai Non-OA or -OX from Australia, again with visa exempt ?? ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

(3) That is a good idea ! ๐Ÿ˜ƒ
Stuart *********
Stuart *********
@Yaoyu **********
Yes if you have legal residence in a country itโ€™s equivalent of being your home country.

The Non O is usually the easiest path. It gets you 90 days on entry, then you have a month to set up a Thai bank account and deposit 800k in it for your year extension- funds need to be in 2 months prior to applying for the extension.
Yaoyu ***********
Yaoyu ***********
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@Stuart ********
Wow Stuart, million thanks ! You are for sure an expert about Thai visas ! ๐Ÿซก
Stuart *********
Stuart *********
@Yaoyu **********
Two main factors in choosing one over the other. 1. Where your money is (or where you want to keep it) , 2. Medical Insurance.

With a Non OA you use local funds (not in a Thai bank - although they could be). Some donโ€™t want to move 800k to a Thai bank where they will gain little to no interest. They keep the money and can use to invest in higher earnings. The visa is valid for one year, but with the right timing can be used for nearly two years. Each entry gives you 365 days, as long as your insurance covers that length.

The downside is the need for insurance. For those approaching or over 70 that can be very expensive or even unobtainable depending on medical history.

With a Non O visa you get 90 days on entry, no insurance required, but within 30 days you need to have opened a Thai bank account and move 800k into it. 30 days prior to your stamp expiring (some offices allow 45 days) you apply for the year extension and re-entry permit if needed.

Once you have a visa itโ€™s irrelevant what flight day you put on the application. You can travel on any date within the validity of the visa. Obviously with a Non OA the clock starts ticking as soon as itโ€™s issued so to get the nearly 2 years out of it you want to travel just after itโ€™s issued. With a Non O visa itโ€™s valid for 90 days so even if you enter 89 days after itโ€™s issued youโ€™ll be given a stamp for 90 days.
Yaoyu ***********
Yaoyu ***********
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@Stuart ********
Then, what is the major difference between Nn-O vs. OA !?

Stuart, do you have insight to the following :

May I change my flight for arrival ?? ๐Ÿค” Because the online application asks me to provide the flight number as well.

Should I enter 7 days (actual hotel booking before finding a rental), or 30 days (total days intended to stay) ?? ๐Ÿค”
Yaoyu ***********
Yaoyu ***********
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@Stuart ********
Yes Stuart, I just happened to hear on a YT vidรฉo, expats over 80 can find no coverage there. ๐Ÿฅฒ
Stuart *********
Stuart *********
@Yaoyu **********
A year extension is available for a Non O or a Non OA providing you meet the financial requirements (800k for two months prior). The difference is that the OA would also require a year of health insurance that meets the requirements (basically a Thai company nominated by immigration). The Non O does not need this requirement.

Those approaching 70+ find it very expensive or impossible to get coverage for that age.
Yaoyu ***********
Yaoyu ***********
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@Stuart ********
and deposit 800k in it for your year extension......."year extension" is Only available for Non-OA, right ?? ๐Ÿค”

Because the Thai embassy in France says with Non-O, once I leave Thailand, it will be no good.

Also, that is 800k in Baht, right ?? ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

Thank you again !
Graham ******
Graham ******
@Yaoyu **********
Get a Non-O followed by a 12 month extension every year, a much easier solution
Yaoyu ***********
Yaoyu ***********
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@Graham *****
Graham, Help~ and I will teach you investing ! ๐Ÿ™๐Ÿ˜…

May I change my flight for arrival ?? ๐Ÿค” Because the online application asks me to provide the flight number as well.

Should I enter 7 days (actual hotel booking before finding a rental), or 30 days (total days intended to stay) ?? ๐Ÿค”
Graham ******
Graham ******
@Yaoyu **********
no, read my reply again
Yaoyu ***********
Yaoyu ***********
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@Graham *****
Non-O is good Only for 90 days, while Non-OA for 1 year........

So, did you mean I should apply for Non-OA, over Non-OX ?? ๐Ÿค”

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