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Do I need to submit the TM30 certificate each time I enter Thailand if I own a condo but visit only occasionally?
TM30 online registration question:
I own a Condo but still only travel with 60day exempt stamp to Thailand for vacation.
Most of those trips do include border crossings and trips to other SEA countries like Cambodia, Lao and Vietnam.
Now I have registered an account and got my condo address approved from the TM30 website but reading instructions I am a bit confused as it mentions I have to provide the TM30 certificate export to an immigration officer: [members only]
I am wondering how many TM30, each entry into Thailand???, I have to get done and really need to provide the certificate to the immigration office?
How are you handling this with real property in Thailand but not living there?
I own a Condo but still only travel with 60day exempt stamp to Thailand for vacation.
Most of those trips do include border crossings and trips to other SEA countries like Cambodia, Lao and Vietnam.
Now I have registered an account and got my condo address approved from the TM30 website but reading instructions I am a bit confused as it mentions I have to provide the TM30 certificate export to an immigration officer: [members only]
I am wondering how many TM30, each entry into Thailand???, I have to get done and really need to provide the certificate to the immigration office?
How are you handling this with real property in Thailand but not living there?
Answer summary
The TM30 registration is a legal requirement in Thailand for foreigners who own property and stay in the country, even if they only visit temporarily. You do not need to print the TM30 certificate unless you are directly interacting with immigration services, such as when applying for extensions or residence certificates. For normal visits, it's enough to file the TM30 online, and there is no need to provide the certificate unless requested by immigration.
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Julian *******
I print mine just in case
Pete *******
Unless you actually need to interact with Immigration during your stays you can ignore the TM30 requirements.
Jeremy *****
@Jim *******
okie dokie let's see how that works out 🤦♂️Just ignore the laws screw it makes sense 🙄
You're one of the reasons rules get changed and those who follow them end up having to face more hurdles later on bravo genius 🙄
Roberto *********
@Jeremy ****
I was in Thailand for four years on successive OA visas. Never filed a TM30 or a 90-day report. Never visited immigration. Never finedJeremy *****
@Pete ******
well seeing how you have to do a 90 day report and a tm30 has to be filed for that your advice once again is not good 🤦♂️🤷♂️Pete *******
@Jeremy ****
as I stated IF you are going to interact with Immigration during your stay you will be required to complete a TM30 and do your 90 reports or face being fined. You can ignore both and just bounce in and out every 180 days without any consequences IF you have no interaction with Immigration during your stay. Departing the country Immigration have no interest in TM30s 90 reports or your tax filing status….Jeremy *****
@Pete ******
yes break the rules don't do a 90 day fuck the system you're a genius I get it 🙄🤦♂️And another one of the reasons rules get changed and shit gets stricter 🙄
Go pay your hired wife her weekly allowance and hopefully one day you're one who is denied entry and banned seeing how you can't bother to do such a simple task as a 90 day report and think you're above the law 🤮🤘😂
Jim ********
@Jeremy ****
Only if people are going to do 90-day reports.Jim ********
@Pete ******
Correct. People on DTV who bounce within every 180 days are never going to need a TM30.
John **********
@Jim *******
they need to have filed a TM30 to do a 90 day report. So only those that bounce within every 90 days won't need one.Jim ********
@Gregor *********
Insurance is a different issue to LAWJim ********
@Gregor *********
Key word "maybe". You need to show me Thai LAW, not some random internet siteGregor **********
@Jim *******
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@Jim *******
this takes your total score to TWO wrong claims 🙂Gregor **********
@Jim *******
sorry, but you are WRONG, on the next issue, too 😃 . . . . While your foreign license plus the IDP is valid for up to one year after arrival, many car insurance policies become void if you're still driving on a foreign license after three months *************************************************************************************
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@Gregor *********
Unlikely they'd need that. There's actually no 90-day law in Thailand for IDP. But if they did want that, then yes they could do one 90-day report, and then forget about the rest for the next five years! 😆Gregor **********
@Jim *******
well if a DTV holder needs any service from Immigration, like a "certificate of residence" in order to apply for a driver's license after having stayed in Thailand longer than three months, which would make their IDP obsolete, they will get fined 2000.- THB if not having complied with the 90-days report rule (they could still do it in person on Immigration up to 7 days after due date)Jim ********
@John *********
Correct. When I was on OA visa with second "free" year, I went almost four years without filing a single TM30 or 90-day report. Yep, I was "illegal" but realistically no-one gives a hoot! And worse case scenario - 2000 baht fine. Compare that to the money and time I saved not traipsing to an immigration office? ✅John **********
@Jim *******
other than it being a legal requirement you mean?Jim ********
@John *********
A DTV holder who bounces within 180 days also doesn't need to do a 90-day report. Immigration at airports and land borders have zero interest in 90-dayers!Jeremy *****
@John *********
exactly!
Graham ******
@Jim *******
but the lack of 90 day reports for the occasions that they stay over 90 days will result in a fine when they come to use Immigration servicesJim ********
@Graham *****
I was on OA with second "free" year twice in a row. I lived in Thailand for four consecutive years. Never once visited an immigration office, never filed a TM30 or a 90-day report. Never got fined.Graham ******
@Jim *******
Yes but, like your Non-OA example above, when the do come to use Immigration for whatever reason they'd likely get the fineJim ********
@Graham *****
People in DTV who bounce within 180 days won't need to use "immigration service" - that's the point I'm making
Brandon ************
@Jim *******
Unless they want a drivers license. Then they'll need a certificate of residence.Brandon ************
The ONLY time you'll ever actually need to print the PDF from the TM30 system, is if you are seeking a service from your immigration office. Otherwise it's still a legal requirement to file a TM30, but no one will ask for it. If you go to immigration to get an extension, or a residence certificate, or something else, then you'll need a copy of it.
Kim *********
@Brandon ***********
why is it necessary in (at?) SOME immi offices to show a copy since it is registered in the system?Brandon ************
@Kim ********
why is every immigration office different? Who knows. This is Thailand. That's just how things are done. The leadership of each location sets the rules for that location. Same goes for bank branches and DLT offices and pretty much everything else.Munich *****
OP@Brandon ***********
thanks Mate(s)
Jack ********
@Brandon ***********
printout not needed at Prachuap immigration as they can see it in the computer.Activity
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