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Do DTV visa holders have to pay taxes in Thailand?
Thailand tax lawsDTV visatax residencytax obligations for expatsdouble tax treatiesThai income taxvisa and tax implications
Oct 9, 2024
2 years ago
Mayu *****
ORIGINAL POSTERHey:)
I heard that DTV holders need to pay taxes as well.
Does anyone knows if its correct? š
I heard that DTV holders need to pay taxes as well.
Does anyone knows if its correct? š
TLDR : Answer Summary
Yes, holders of a DTV visa may need to pay taxes if they are in Thailand for 180 days or more. This makes them tax residents subject to Thai income tax laws. The taxation status is not dependent on the type of visa held but rather on the duration of stay in Thailand. If the income is subject to tax already in their home country and there is a double tax treaty in place, expats may be exempt from additional taxes in Thailand. Consulting a tax specialist is advisable for personalized advice.
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Michael ********
Anyone spending more than 180 days in Thailand is expected to pay Tax, unless if your'e already paying tax elsewhere. double tax agreement (DTA)
Thailand can only track "remittance" they have no system currently in place to chase individuals up for tax & ask you apply for a Tax ID & file yourself.
Thailand can only track "remittance" they have no system currently in place to chase individuals up for tax & ask you apply for a Tax ID & file yourself.
Tore *********
What made you think we didnāt? 180+ days make you tax resident regardless of visa.
However IF the money you bring into Thailand is already taxes in your home country AND there is a double tax treaty; you donāt pay pay additional tax.
Still have to file tax returns and be able to document it was already taxed
However IF the money you bring into Thailand is already taxes in your home country AND there is a double tax treaty; you donāt pay pay additional tax.
Still have to file tax returns and be able to document it was already taxed
Charles ********
@Tore ********
to clarify, just because you payed tax abroad, doesn't mean you won't pay tax in Thailand. Typically, most treaties only give you a credit for tax paid against taxes owed. Both countries get to tax 100% offset by credits. Thailand tax system is more progressive than many countries, particularly the US, which means tax will still be do.Tore *********
@Charles *******
no, thatās not how most double tax treaties work. For US I would not have a clue, but ive read multiple agreements with EU countries. For my Dutch income that is taxed locally, I would pay zero taxes in Thailand on that income.
That said, each country have their own individual agreements negotiated separately.
But most tax treaties that have double tax agreements, means exactly that. (Prevent dual
Taxation) You only pay taxes in one country, not both.
Charles ********
@Tore ********
you might be looking at exclusive right to tax clauses, some countries treaties do have those if you fall into those requirements, that means your income would only be taxed by one country. A lot of people get that wrong though, thinking their home country gets the exclusive right to tax, but if you are a full time thai resident, Thailand would typically get the exclusive right to tax. Double tax treaties are not anti-double tax treaties. Thier purpose is to tell you how you will be taxed by both countries. Most treaties and most income classes are fully assessable in both countries offset by credits.
Reviewing the Netherlands treaty, which is an old one, which is quite beneficial compared to most. There are income types that are taxable by countries like dividends and most passive income, articles 9 to 12.
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Michael ********
I have been advised by a Thai solicitor to do nothing until legislation is passed into law, I and my wife, are both retired and on O visa and import pensions money only from the UK.
Charles ********
@Michael *******
what legislation... the change last year is done and finalize. It was not legislative change, it was a re-interpretation of existing legislation. It was published in gazette almost a year ago, which makes it official. Not all professionals are competent, I would double check with a few others.If you talking about worldwide taxation purposed legislation, that may or may not pass, maybe years away. Taxation on remittance still stands though.
Your advice might have been specific to your situation, particularly if you are just bring in government pensions, there is probably no concern. People with active income should absolutely be addressing their person situation.
Michael *******
Itās already a requirement to file a tax return for 2024 before end Mar 2025, tax laws in Thailand have been in place for many years, the requirement to pay tax on remittances was an adjustment to tax rulesā¦..suggest you talk to an accountant, they not
Michael ********
@Michael ******
I take my Thai solicitor, and my agents advice. We import only small private pensions and standard government pensions from the UK, thanks for you reply.Michael *******
@Michael *******
would still talk to an accountant, I also bring in my UK pension along with my wifeās from Singapore, and I have discussed with accountant and local tax office and they have advised me to file a return , and any tax due on remittances will be offset by a credit for tax paid in UK and SIN under DTAās with both countries - I canāt afford to fall foul of tax man, he never goes away and I have too much invested here with our own property and two dogsā¦ā¦it will only be a problem for many if they link tax to visa renewal then the brown stuff hits the fan and agents get rich - good luck.Reply to
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Tore *********
@Michael *******
then there is also double tax treaties that would apply to many of us anyway.David ********
@Michael *******
spot on. Why worry or try to plan for what has not been formalized.Thailand is always having proposals that never happen. How about the proposal that a farang can buy a house as a primary residence in his name another pie in the sky proposal. Live your life tomorrow never comes.Your just donating money to a solicitor or account to talk about nothingReply to
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Jim ******
Consult a tax specialist. I can recommend www expattaxthailand.com
Mark *****
Nobody knows, all speculation at the moment !!
Jim ********
@Mark ****
Actually the Thai tax office does know. Anyone in the country for more than 180 days in the calendar year and remits untaxed money is liable for taxation. Anyone who has already paid tax on remitted money can use tax credits to offset any taxes payable in Thailand. Any pensioner remitting pension money from another country does not pay taxSue **********
@Jim *******
For retirees with pension it depends on the country. There is nowhere written in the Tax Revenue law that pensioners donāt pay tax at all. JJim ********
@Sue *********
I was speaking generally with reference to the bulk of expats from "western countries". The vast majority of these who are on pensions which are not taxable in ThailandReply to
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Mike *******
No
Yes
It depends
Whichever it is, your potential taxation status has nothing to do with having a DTV visa.
Yes
It depends
Whichever it is, your potential taxation status has nothing to do with having a DTV visa.
Ken ***********
Thai tax laws are fuzzy logic. As it stands now, if you are in Thailand for 180 days or more, then you are considered a tax resident. Currently, being a tax resident makes any monies brought into Thailand subject to taxation. There are tax treaties with certain countries that may limit your liability. If you are planning to be in Thailand 180bdays or more in a calendar year, you might want to consult a tax advisor.
There are rumblings about Thailand wanting to tax worldwide income, but this is not yet law.
There are rumblings about Thailand wanting to tax worldwide income, but this is not yet law.
Brandon ************
Visa has nothing to do with it. Anyone that spends 180 days in Thailand is considered a tax citizen of Thailand and subject to Thai income tax.
Andy **********
@Brandon ***********
LTR not subject to Thai taxBrandon ************
@Andy *********
Irrelevant to this question thoughAndy **********
@Brandon ***********
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@Brandon ***********
does Thailand have a tax year ? Or is it just January - December ?Wayne ***********
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Jan-DecLauren ******
@Wayne **********
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ORIGINAL POSTER@Brandon ***********
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